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Which build should I choose?
Pure Int Spear 13%  13%  [ 10 ]
Pure Int Sword 19%  19%  [ 15 ]
Bow 25%  25%  [ 19 ]
Glavie 16%  16%  [ 12 ]
Hyb Int sword/spear 27%  27%  [ 21 ]
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my last character was blader. so, which chinese build should i choose?
plz help me out

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why not euro???

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A Pure STR bowman :P

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why not euro???

cuz i don't feel like it.

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why not euro???

cuz i don't feel like it.
euros are better in everything then chinese, just the pot delay holds them back

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hmm euros are better? well euros have less skills, there all boring, they relly on parties to survive, u can't fight giants, or parties, good weapons are double the price of chinesse, euros also cannot job, unless theres a school of em, and if theres the same ammount of chinesse the euros will get owned. Chinese, can fight giants, champs, parties, they can job easily because the pot delay isn't horrible, there stuff doesn't coast as much, we don't need to relly on a party, i can actualy have fun pvping, theres just so much that a euro can't do, and there boring getting a new skill every 10 levels.

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hmm euros are better? well euros have less skills, there all boring, they relly on parties to survive, u can't fight giants, or parties, good weapons are double the price of chinesse, euros also cannot job, unless theres a school of em, and if theres the same ammount of chinesse the euros will get owned. Chinese, can fight giants, champs, parties, they can job easily because the pot delay isn't horrible, there stuff doesn't coast as much, we don't need to relly on a party, i can actualy have fun pvping, theres just so much that a euro can't do, and there boring getting a new skill every 10 levels.


i second that. they r just new. after a while ppl r gonna get tired of it and go back to china

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hyb int sounds good.
i might go hyb int spear.

but hyb is abit confusing.
many different iny hyb

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glaive. boring it seems, but evergreen. but you got a blader, so not sure how much glaive will excite you. str archer will be the next choice, but i hate filling my inventory with arrows.

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hmm euros are better? well euros have less skills, there all boring, they relly on parties to survive, u can't fight giants, or parties, good weapons are double the price of chinesse, euros also cannot job, unless theres a school of em, and if theres the same ammount of chinesse the euros will get owned. Chinese, can fight giants, champs, parties, they can job easily because the pot delay isn't horrible, there stuff doesn't coast as much, we don't need to relly on a party, i can actualy have fun pvping, theres just so much that a euro can't do, and there boring getting a new skill every 10 levels.



u cannot be more wrong

u really think that a party of chinese can own a party of euro's? first of all imagine doing a 10v10 euros got 2 rogue 2 wizards 2 clerics 1 bards 2 warriors 1 warlock, first off all, there will be all the chinese nukers down, wizards and rogues will kick the hell out of them, then warriros storm in and keep the others busy while the clerics keep everyone alive without even breaking a sweat, then u got the warlock stunning and sleeping the chineese going for the clerics/wizards, an u got the warriors/rogues/wizards kicking the hell out of the remaining chinese.

trust me no way chinese wins over euro's

and for euro's not being able to solo giantsd parties, i have never had problems, onlt the party giant can get me killed.
and i got a cleric who can easely take giants 2 lvls above his lvl, same with my wizard and my brothers warlock, so please, if you don't know what ur talking about, just shut up

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CLeric vs 2 ginats same lvl
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hmm euros are better? well euros have less skills, there all boring, they relly on parties to survive, u can't fight giants, or parties, good weapons are double the price of chinesse, euros also cannot job, unless theres a school of em, and if theres the same ammount of chinesse the euros will get owned. Chinese, can fight giants, champs, parties, they can job easily because the pot delay isn't horrible, there stuff doesn't coast as much, we don't need to relly on a party, i can actualy have fun pvping, theres just so much that a euro can't do, and there boring getting a new skill every 10 levels.


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chinese getting euro buffs .. hahaha ...

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hmm euros are better? well euros have less skills, there all boring, they relly on parties to survive, u can't fight giants, or parties, good weapons are double the price of chinesse, euros also cannot job, unless theres a school of em, and if theres the same ammount of chinesse the euros will get owned. Chinese, can fight giants, champs, parties, they can job easily because the pot delay isn't horrible, there stuff doesn't coast as much, we don't need to relly on a party, i can actualy have fun pvping, theres just so much that a euro can't do, and there boring getting a new skill every 10 levels.

please learn about them before you say these things about them

1: just because they have less skills doesnt mean they are worse
2:they CAN kill giants AND parties, i have done it before, not hard
3:euros CAN job some classes better then chinese, like rogue dagger, best jobber in the game, go stealth for a hunter or thief...
so please shutup when u dont know crap

4: for the skills every 10 lvls, GET OFF UR A$$ AND LOOK AT THE TREES you dont get skills every 10 lvls, its every 2 lvls like chinese, EXCEPT! some skills where they are more important like noise/movingmarch/stealth those are every 10 lvls

so please just SHUTUP

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hmm euros are better? well euros have less skills, there all boring, they relly on parties to survive, u can't fight giants, or parties, good weapons are double the price of chinesse, euros also cannot job, unless theres a school of em, and if theres the same ammount of chinesse the euros will get owned. Chinese, can fight giants, champs, parties, they can job easily because the pot delay isn't horrible, there stuff doesn't coast as much, we don't need to relly on a party, i can actualy have fun pvping, theres just so much that a euro can't do, and there boring getting a new skill every 10 levels.

please learn about them before you say these things about them

1: just because they have less skills doesnt mean they are worse
2:they CAN kill giants AND parties, i have done it before, not hard
3:euros CAN job some classes better then chinese, like rogue dagger, best jobber in the game, go stealth for a hunter or thief...
so please shutup when u dont know crap

4: for the skills every 10 lvls, GET OFF UR A$$ AND LOOK AT THE TREES you dont get skills every 10 lvls, its every 2 lvls like chinese, EXCEPT! some skills where they are more important like noise/movingmarch/stealth those are every 10 lvls

so please just SHUTUP


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The only thing that chinese's are better is their
ability to spam pots .... nothing more if you ask me ...
[I can beat any chinese my level except I have
hard time with blader (he spams pots faster then
I can kill him ... and if he's using XL pots ... come on!)]

They have better equipment (more SoX)
But we'll see everything when cap 90 comes out.
SoX ... we can say it all restarts to 0 ...
(speaking of pvp @ lv.90)
so euro can catch up .... their pot delay will go to 5seconds....

Euro > Chinese big time

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hmm euros are better? well euros have less skills, there all boring, they relly on parties to survive, u can't fight giants, or parties, good weapons are double the price of chinesse, euros also cannot job, unless theres a school of em, and if theres the same ammount of chinesse the euros will get owned. Chinese, can fight giants, champs, parties, they can job easily because the pot delay isn't horrible, there stuff doesn't coast as much, we don't need to relly on a party, i can actualy have fun pvping, theres just so much that a euro can't do, and there boring getting a new skill every 10 levels.

+1m and remember their skills look so gay :P except rogues but blader chains beat that.

and stop flaming the guy just wanted to be a chinese instead of euro its his choice and i say go pure int s/s just cause i am being one too, or go pure str bow 8)

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hmm euros are better? well euros have less skills, there all boring, they relly on parties to survive, u can't fight giants, or parties, good weapons are double the price of chinesse, euros also cannot job, unless theres a school of em, and if theres the same ammount of chinesse the euros will get owned. Chinese, can fight giants, champs, parties, they can job easily because the pot delay isn't horrible, there stuff doesn't coast as much, we don't need to relly on a party, i can actualy have fun pvping, theres just so much that a euro can't do, and there boring getting a new skill every 10 levels.


Only thing I agree in that post is that euro is boring. Everything else is bull about euro. I got bored of my Crossbow due to same old skills being repeated which lessens the fun. Thats why I had made a Sword nuker, more access to wide range of skills. Chinese benifit mostly from having access to more sox then euros, while euros can use npc gear and still rape chinese characters in sox. Pot delay is fixed to even the sides a bit and you forget a euro can just use a vigor while the health potion cools down. I have not seen a euro not be able to solo a giant or a pt mob there level.

To the topic starter, I really enjoy my sword nuker I had made. It allowed me to get a nice range of skills like nukes and all bicheon skills. It might take me long to farm but I'd rather just farm a character to have fun with. I had a glavier before, quit it at 67. Glavier got me bored real quick due to not alot of range of skills.


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hyb int sounds good.
i might go hyb int spear.

but hyb is abit confusing.
many different iny hyb


thats the BEST thing about the build. Say you dont like s/s you go spear....theirs no right or wrong to this build
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imo euros are boreing as hell. enough said. 8)

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euros are about as boring as chinese

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I dunno about PvP. I heard that bladers is the main focus of the chinese vs Euro since they can knock down the European clerics and spellcaster so they have a harder time casting spells and still survive for the most part. And the other Chinese such as glavies, nuker do the rest. I really think you can't really judge whose party is going to win, it all depends on who does what first and later...

P.S. and plus who wants to think that their character they made was the wrong choice? xD


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P.S. and plus who wants to think that their character they made was the wrong choice? xD

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i'm lvl80 fully farmed blader, and yeah its really fun to pvp against euro.

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hmm euros are better? well euros have less skills, there all boring, they relly on parties to survive, u can't fight giants, or parties, good weapons are double the price of chinesse, euros also cannot job, unless theres a school of em, and if theres the same ammount of chinesse the euros will get owned. Chinese, can fight giants, champs, parties, they can job easily because the pot delay isn't horrible, there stuff doesn't coast as much, we don't need to relly on a party, i can actualy have fun pvping, theres just so much that a euro can't do, and there boring getting a new skill every 10 levels.

please learn about them before you say these things about them

1: just because they have less skills doesnt mean they are worse
2:they CAN kill giants AND parties, i have done it before, not hard
3:euros CAN job some classes better then chinese, like rogue dagger, best jobber in the game, go stealth for a hunter or thief...
so please shutup when u dont know crap

4: for the skills every 10 lvls, GET OFF UR A$$ AND LOOK AT THE TREES you dont get skills every 10 lvls, its every 2 lvls like chinese, EXCEPT! some skills where they are more important like noise/movingmarch/stealth those are every 10 lvls

so please just SHUTUP


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i agree euro is stronger but who the **** cares its boring as **** being exactly the same as everyone around you chinese hybrid is much more fun to play and you will be more likely to become famous in your server

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you guys are just taking sides...
Chinese CAN own European in 5v5 or 10v10.
And Euro CAN do GIANTS and PARTIES and JOBS.
It all depends on the situation.
But the 10v10 situation, even if u had 10 blade tanks against the euro theyd be destroyed. Because theres no way the euros gonna kill the tanks and the tanks all aim at 1 euro at a time and destroy them since theres a pot delay. So euro kinda suck at pvp alone or even when up against a 10v10 situation.

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im lv 7x pure str bow..but i chosed pure int in vote. becouse its nice build as well..but indeed as we know...int players are afraid of pure str bow more than glavier..but as pure int with new skill sword shield..can being strong with snow shield and division status at lv73 is really useful..


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hmm euros are better? well euros have less skills, there all boring, they relly on parties to survive, u can't fight giants, or parties, good weapons are double the price of chinesse, euros also cannot job, unless theres a school of em, and if theres the same ammount of chinesse the euros will get owned. Chinese, can fight giants, champs, parties, they can job easily because the pot delay isn't horrible, there stuff doesn't coast as much, we don't need to relly on a party, i can actualy have fun pvping, theres just so much that a euro can't do, and there boring getting a new skill every 10 levels.



1) You suck. My rogue can tank and kill party mobs and giants my level. So can all my warrior friends.

2) What planet do you live on? Euro party beats chinese party easily. All NPC gear and all same level, the Euro party would win, except if the Euro party were a bunch of bloody idiot.

You're post makes me sick, so i won't read any further!

You sir. are a newbie! :)

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