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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:56 am 
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I think im gonna try what some people said
80 light, 80 ice, and 80 force, and 60 bicheon or just leave bicheon at 0
You guys think i should try doing this weird/unique build?



BTW, im hybrid int s/s


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go for it...cuz at 90 cap..

light 90
ice 90
force 90
something else 30

and u dun rly nid fire 90 nuke cuz light nuke has more stable dmg output...use light imbue..and nukers' important buff are all wif light tree, fire tree buffs is more for str build...

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ya im gonna go for it, im so happy, finally found my build ^^
:D :D :D
Now i need the skill points :(


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yea...so u wil be the guinea pig for us to see wat is the power of force 90 :P

u will be realli unique cuz no 1 go for force so far...but i thk it owns
lower attck rating, lower mag/phy dmg, lower mag/phy def...it will make ur enemy vulnerable lk a newb

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im lvl 46, light 46, ice 32, and force 0 ^^
Im gonna farm at lvl 65
from 46-65 having all skills lvlup i need 127k sp ^^
so ill have to farm like 50-80k or something at lvl 65 to get skills up, then i need to farm for lvl 80, like 200k skill points
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goodluck christina, i'm still also debating on the whole force thing for my nuker as well, tell me how it goes.

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Level 80 pure int , with light max, ice max, and force up to 72. Was good for a while, but didnt like it much. Deleveled force to 0 now. Took max bicheon instead.

What makes it fun? You can ress your team, you can help debuff targets (and mobs wont aggro you), you can heal super fast (if you use vigor pots too), you are a unique build, the rest are meh.

Why did I delevel it? In team pvp I was the first to be targetted -.-, with therapy + self heal + vigor pots + snow shield I could hold my ground, but after a while I got overwhelmed (you cant just passively absorb all the damage), weapon skills make you a better combatant, force mastery makes you a better teamplayer, mp passive + is meh, bleed division do just as good as vital spot series.

My opinion is if you want to stand out in your server, then go for it. Force suits pure str better, as they can naturally tank. Pure int force limits you to resurrect safe targets (players you could get to) and you have to race your way to get there (so armor is encumbering to your char).

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ya once i get to lvl 65, then farm and get to 80, ill let you know,(in 5 years...........)


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lol darng you Syl, I'll pump myself up for it then I read your posts on force then it's like eh I dunno anymore >< It has it's ups and downs..I'm really just not sure yet

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lol darng you Syl, I'll pump myself up for it then I read your posts on force then it's like eh I dunno anymore >< It has it's ups and downs..I'm really just not sure yet

100% agree with you, she had to ruin my day ^^ lol
Im still doing it, ill try it out, if it dosent work, oh well, just have to get lots of curst hearts :D


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christina wrote:
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lol darng you Syl, I'll pump myself up for it then I read your posts on force then it's like eh I dunno anymore >< It has it's ups and downs..I'm really just not sure yet

100% agree with you, she had to ruin my day ^^ lol
Im still doing it, ill try it out, if it dosent work, oh well, just have to get lots of curst hearts :D


yep, Syl tryed it out herself, and she said herself that it really depends on your taste and how you like to play the game, so good luck and make sure to tell me how it goes :)

(I think she did, on a diff thread >_>)

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lol darng you Syl, I'll pump myself up for it then I read your posts on force then it's like eh I dunno anymore >< It has it's ups and downs..I'm really just not sure yet

100% agree with you, she had to ruin my day ^^ lol
Im still doing it, ill try it out, if it dosent work, oh well, just have to get lots of curst hearts :D


yep, Syl tryed it out herself, and she said herself that it really depends on your taste and how you like to play the game, so good luck and make sure to tell me how it goes :)

(I think she did, on a diff thread >_>)

Well its something new =) so im gonna do it, and i let you know how it is once i get it lvled up to my lvl :D


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Well sry to spoil your idea. I guess it just didnt work for me :/ but it might work better for you. Just imagine this, a wizard/cleric/warlock that can tank a bit, thats pretty much what you are aiming for. If you get excited by that then go for it :love:

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wizard/cleric/warlock that can tank a bit


wat abt the skills like decay, impotent lowering enemy phy/mag def and attck?...which in turn means u will hv higher dmg on them
(mayb holyword or some euro buff can debuff it though)

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wat abt the skills like decay, impotent lowering enemy phy/mag def and attck?...which in turn means u will hv higher dmg on them
(mayb holyword or some euro buff can debuff it though)


Hence the warlock bit ie the debuff aspect of force mastery (vital spot series). Decay, weaken works about the same as bleed and division. Decay and weaken are defense specific; bleed and division affects both defense type, but they can stack and the effects cumulative.

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Good luck hehe ,
this might motivate u
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eRtdOdJRXGA
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=D3MwUhv6uCQ

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well im hybrid s/s
30 str points should be good right, or should i add more than 30?


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nice video there...shield + snow shield can tank really well to my surprise..or the glaive, blade, bows in the vid juz have lousy weapons?

and omg force nuker hitting 12k at a blader...light nuke dmg output is quite stable... but u are losing abit of range when u use only light nuke and therefore the need to tank abit

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 Post subject: Re: "Unique build"
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:28 am 
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christina wrote:
I think im gonna try what some people said
80 light, 80 ice, and 80 force, and 60 bicheon or just leave bicheon at 0
You guys think i should try doing this weird/unique build?



BTW, im hybrid int s/s


watchout tho, tht would only work right if ur a pure int :P

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[PPC]IceCrash wrote:
christina wrote:
I think im gonna try what some people said
80 light, 80 ice, and 80 force, and 60 bicheon or just leave bicheon at 0
You guys think i should try doing this weird/unique build?



BTW, im hybrid int s/s


watchout tho, tht would only work right if ur a pure int :P

why? or are you just messing with me? :shock:


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christina wrote:
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christina wrote:
I think im gonna try what some people said
80 light, 80 ice, and 80 force, and 60 bicheon or just leave bicheon at 0
You guys think i should try doing this weird/unique build?



BTW, im hybrid int s/s


watchout tho, tht would only work right if ur a pure int :P

why? or are you just messing with me? :shock:


na im serious.
cause if ur hybrid ur nukes will kinda suk..
alright you can always debuff ppl and then ur nukes will become almost as the pure int ones..but still, a hybrid int needs wep masteries imho.

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so i wont be powerful =(


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juntakashi wrote:
go for it...cuz at 90 cap..

light 90
ice 90
force 90
something else 30

and u dun rly nid fire 90 nuke cuz light nuke has more stable dmg output...use light imbue..and nukers' important buff are all wif light tree, fire tree buffs is more for str build...


ARE YOU A NOOB?
LOLX...

THAT BUILD IS FOR PVP AGAINST MANGYANS..
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!


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mitsukihayase wrote:
juntakashi wrote:
go for it...cuz at 90 cap..

light 90
ice 90
force 90
something else 30

and u dun rly nid fire 90 nuke cuz light nuke has more stable dmg output...use light imbue..and nukers' important buff are all wif light tree, fire tree buffs is more for str build...


ARE YOU A NOOB?
LOLX...

THAT BUILD IS FOR PVP AGAINST MANGYANS..
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!


you aren't very smart are you? I'm sorry for the insult, but posting in caps saying a build is bad that obviously has been proven wrong.."irks" me. how about trying to justify yourself?

there's also been videos posted, on this same exact thread showing the build in 1 vs 1 pvp, which I think proves can kill a bit more then mangryangs. :)

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Firemouse wrote:
mitsukihayase wrote:
juntakashi wrote:
go for it...cuz at 90 cap..

light 90
ice 90
force 90
something else 30

and u dun rly nid fire 90 nuke cuz light nuke has more stable dmg output...use light imbue..and nukers' important buff are all wif light tree, fire tree buffs is more for str build...


ARE YOU A NOOB?
LOLX...

THAT BUILD IS FOR PVP AGAINST MANGYANS..
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!


you aren't very smart are you? I'm sorry for the insult, but posting in caps saying a build is bad that obviously has been proven wrong.."irks" me. how about trying to justify yourself?

there's also been videos posted, on this same exact thread showing the build in 1 vs 1 pvp, which I think proves can kill a bit more then mangryangs. :)


So let's try shall we?
I have lvl 75 wiz against ur lvl 80...
In tibet server??
1on1?
lolx
i'll give you 5m each time you can kill me..


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love this build, though I still have a few levels to go until the better vitals

what is your level and how much hybrid are you christina?


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I'm trying to find where anyone on this thread asked who'd win against a wizard in 1 vs 1 pvp. when that happens, you let me know.

you're making Tibet look awful right now, and I really respect the server. learn to respect other peoples opinions, and keep that negative nonsense to yourself.

edit: to avoid flame, this will be my last post. if you have anything to discuss with me, feel free to PM me.

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Im lvl 46 almost 47
at lvl 47 i will have 30 str points added


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If you go all int from now you will end up with close to 90% mag balance. Its true what icecrash says that you will gimp your attack a little with not going pure int. Especially since there will be no crits to help you out if you don't have weapon skills.

On the other hand you will have about 1400 more HP.

Don't just look at what you self will and will not be able to do. Your buffs/de buffs, res, therapy circle etc etc will be really helpful for all the people you play with so I wouldn't say its a bad choice going with this build. Having more HP will help to stay alive longer and your damage will not be bad at all, only just not as good as a pure int.


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juntakashi wrote:
yea...so u wil be the guinea pig for us to see wat is the power of force 90 :P

u will be realli unique cuz no 1 go for force so far...but i thk it owns
lower attck rating, lower mag/phy dmg, lower mag/phy def...it will make ur enemy vulnerable lk a newb


Will not work on anyone buffed with a cleric's Holy Word/Spell...I am pretty sure rogues and warriors have anti-curse buffs as well, so force would be pretty useless against them, warlocks... well, useless again, you curse them, they curse you better...you end up with less dmg and def anyway.

Chinese get that whole fire buff deal that's 78% or something....so not very effective against them either....and there are also expensive pills which would make your debuffs pretty useless...but not many are prepared for that.

Conclusion, it will be an OK build but without all the buffs from another level 90 mastery such as cold or fire you would end up self healing over and over..and that's pretty slow.

But do try it because as I said many people will be unprepared so it would work as well as warlock debuffs, only slower.


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I'm trying to find where anyone on this thread asked who'd win against a wizard in 1 vs 1 pvp. when that happens, you let me know.

you're making Tibet look awful right now, and I really respect the server. learn to respect other peoples opinions, and keep that negative nonsense to yourself.

edit: to avoid flame, this will be my last post. if you have anything to discuss with me, feel free to PM me.


Rofl, the forums went bananas, I think that guy was trying to post somewhere else but forgot where he was answering all of a sudden, since he said something like this in the Euro vs China topic.

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