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PR0METHEUS
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:58 pm |
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zonas_jaf wrote: zphantom wrote: PR0METHEUS wrote: Job level restrictions? bad idea. I like it the way it is now. Yeah it sucks if you're a lvl 25 getting owned by a lvl 70, but that's the way the game works. Jobbing isn't meant to be nearly impossible. Corrected. exactly id like to see you take your 2 star that wont make enough to pay for hunters past the level 70 theif at the ferry, alot of times there are ones at each ferry.
I understand where you're coming from. However, if I still did trade runs, especially a multi star, I wouldn't just approach the ferry blind. I would send a friend in to see if there were any thieves first.
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DarkJackal
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:01 pm |
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1 star runs are meant for low lvls and supposed to be safe, doesn't that tell you that jobbing isn't supposed to be easy and for all lvls, otherwise there would be no need for 1 star protection.
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Sharp324
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:31 pm |
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meh, trade with one star and when the theives try to rob you they just cuss you out and call you a pussy cause they cant rob you lol. I do it for fun anyway hell if im a thief and meet a high lvl hunter i just try to run or avoid them. Some get satisfaction on killing a person less than half their lvl. But if you ever want to theif or hunt well then lvl up like everyone said. Sorry for rambling btw
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PimpC
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:33 pm |
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Well for me that was part of the fun in this game, running away from higher lvles, or always anticipating someone to pop up.
Its fun yoiu just dont realize it
Whats the fun in trading if you make it everytime?
If you don't like getting killed just grind like everyone else did(xept bots)
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DarkJackal
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:35 pm |
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lol being a hunter more to my satisfaction is seeing lower lvls run away when I come(I like it most when there is a group and I run up next to them and they scatter) lol, not killing them  , but now and then it is fun to kill too.
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Sharp324
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:48 pm |
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I usually dont run unless its like 3-4 lvl 70+++ hunters/theifs then thats jsut insane not to run. If its one ill run up to them and scratch their armor for them
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MamaSan
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Post subject: Re: .. Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:19 pm |
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DarkJackal wrote: MamaSan wrote: DarkJackal wrote: MamaSan wrote: What's the name of that lvl 4 thief on Xian again? I keep forgetting her name...dang... Impulse? lol yah...it was her!!!! TY Yw ;p, does Impulse still play even? lol
Dunno, but I regard a lvl 4 thief as a legend...
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Corrupt
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:25 pm |
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DarkJackal wrote: lol being a hunter more to my satisfaction is seeing lower lvls run away when I come(I like it most when there is a group and I run up next to them and they scatter) lol, not killing them  , but now and then it is fun to kill too.
Find some low lvls and if they start running when they see you zerk after a few (no weapon  ) just start punching >.> and use cold wave arrest. Sounds funny since it has the hard hitting sound when in zerk but does 1 dmg.
Probably still start saying "No plssss" "Don't kill me plssss!!!"
Speaking of legends didn't Jackal get first lvl 3 Hunter. Dam you Dark...If only my noob was higher lvl, I could have killed more thieves  Think I hit 60% on lvl 2. Hunter is by far the hardest job to lvl. Wanted thieves 1-2% is lovely if you find one 
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zonas_jaf
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:23 pm |
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PR0METHEUS wrote: I understand where you're coming from. However, if I still did trade runs, especially a multi star, I wouldn't just approach the ferry blind. I would send a friend in to see if there were any thieves first.
and what do you do when there are theives at each ferry? go back to jangan. you just lost money. you cant go grind now, unless you sell your stuff. (you'd move to slow and at level 20 nothing on the jangan side to grind on). so you just wasted time and gold.
i really dont understand why you'd want to attack someone 10+ levels below you. im level 26 and if i see a level 20 theif i dont even put my hunter suit on for them becasue i know its not a fair fight. if they are level 24 or so ill fight them since we have weapons of the same degree. (and yes you can tell a theives level based off their buffs)
you dont build some great character so you can go ratting do you? green npcs will be harder than a level 20 oppenent when your level 30.
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MastaChiefX
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:29 pm |
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zonas_jaf wrote: PR0METHEUS wrote: I understand where you're coming from. However, if I still did trade runs, especially a multi star, I wouldn't just approach the ferry blind. I would send a friend in to see if there were any thieves first. and what do you do when there are theives at each ferry? go back to jangan. you just lost money. you cant go grind now, unless you sell your stuff. (you'd move to slow and at level 20 nothing on the jangan side to grind on). so you just wasted time and gold. i really dont understand why you'd want to attack someone 10+ levels below you. im level 26 and if i see a level 20 theif i dont even put my hunter suit on for them becasue i know its not a fair fight. if they are level 24 or so ill fight them since we have weapons of the same degree. (and yes you can tell a theives level based off their buffs) you dont build some great character so you can go ratting do you? green npcs will be harder than a level 20 oppenent when your level 30.
IF you see thiefs, either
A) Other ferry
B) Wait
C) Rush into them zerked!
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Sekhmet
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:31 pm |
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Loveis4ever wrote: there are good and bad bots tho....
No,there are only bad bots sorry.
No matter if you are a thief or a hunter, thieving is part of the game;even if you bott a level 80 hunter and save all the noobs in the game you are still taking away the fun from someone that levelled his thief manually and earned the right to enjoy it.
The rule is one and it's very simple, don't bott, if you level your char it becomes stronger and you can kill others, its a MMORPG based on a Job system that involves PvP as you can clearly read on the main site,so everyone know what he is going to face.
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ping_lo
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:34 am |
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It all comes down to respect. I think Bruce put it best recently when he said... Quote: "If you have it, you don't need it. If you need it you don't have it. If you have it you need more of it. If you have more of it, you don't need less of it. You need it to get it. And you certainly need it to get more of it. But if you don't already have any of it to begin with, you can't get any of it to get started, which means you really have no idea how to get it in the first place. Do you? You can share it, shure. You can even stock pile it if you'd like. But you can't fake it. Wanting it. Needing it. Wishing for it. The point is, if you've never had any of it, ever, people just seem to know."
Respect is hard to come by. You have to work for it. It is far easier to be feared and hated than respected. So many turn to that instead. And there is no easier way to do that than play the bully.
The only reason I go in job to jangan is to go after the higher lvls that tend to pick on lower lvls. Not so much to help the lower lvls but rather to find some challenging prey. Something the prey never wants to do. They go to jangan to "pwn noobs". If I see an obvious low lvl there I ignore them till they attack. At which point I have no problems engaging them. But till then empathy is not uncalled for. They are just trying to play as well.
But in the end it comes down to this. It is a free game to play. You can create virtually unlimited accounts. Meaning that there are no restrictions on entry and no real reprocussions to frelling up. So you get an environment filled with every tom, dick, and botter. And all you can do is learn to work within the system and keep your focus. Learn the good routes and good trading techniques. Avoid the areas where the high lvls congregate. Work hard and build your character. And if you ever find yourself using the excuse "well someone did it to me once" assume yourself wrong and apologize.
Mercy and benevolence are the path to respect. If you have power people will know it. No need to show it off.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:40 am |
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PR0METHEUS
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:44 am |
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zonas_jaf wrote: PR0METHEUS wrote: I understand where you're coming from. However, if I still did trade runs, especially a multi star, I wouldn't just approach the ferry blind. I would send a friend in to see if there were any thieves first. and what do you do when there are theives at each ferry? go back to jangan. you just lost money. you cant go grind now, unless you sell your stuff. (you'd move to slow and at level 20 nothing on the jangan side to grind on). so you just wasted time and gold.
Well you do have a couple options:
- sneak by them with zerk
- wait it out, they'll leave eventually
- go back to town, but drop your goods somewhere well hidden so you can grind and pick them up later.
If you use the third option, just hope your goods are still there when you get back.
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SRO: 1x, STR Blader (Thebes) 54, STR blader (Venice) 0x, INT wizard (Venice) 19, INT spear (Venice) 34, STR rogue/bard (Venus) 0x, STR blader (Venus) 8x, INT bard/cleric (Gaia)
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moley
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:02 am |
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trade goods do time out, I'm not too sure of the exact time but I have had goods that I have stumbled upon vanish just as I got out my camel before .
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Dempster
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Post subject: Re: Jobs levels and how they need to be restricted Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:58 pm |
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MrFudge wrote: well what i mean is its so stupid how you cant really thief or whatever til high 30's and even then its hard why cant joymax change it so theres like a level range for people to attack others while in job suits??? i hate seeing a lvl 2 trade and being like YES FINALLY OMG and then the lvl 70 hunter phantoms his way in from behind the tree and superpwns me with a meteor.
I see a LOT of you complaining about random shit in these forums.. But I must say I see no point to lvl up if you could have a lvl 32 char that cannot be killed by anyone.
See if this was the case everyone would have lvl 32 chars with FULL sos/som/sosun gear on raping the noobs ANYWAYS so why bother?
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zonas_jaf
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:21 pm |
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well there is one solution i see on this. make it with restricted levels for attacking players and restricted levels to buying goods. above level 40 and you cant buy from jangan or sell there. this way there is no reason for a level 70 theif / trader / hunter to be on the jangan side. if they had more towns this would be even better.
at the same time increase the gold you get from drops as you level up so that once you hit 40 doing trade runs on a lower level char is inefficient.
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HertogJan
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:49 pm |
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If they are going to insert the new trader system. People will have to grow balls. When thiefs cant pop anymore, 1* will be totally save.
And although I hate poppers, they keep the 1* on the edge. Take that part away and what is gonna happen? Everybody doing 1* laughing at thiefs? FUN!
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zonas_jaf
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:46 pm |
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HertogJan wrote: If they are going to insert the new trader system. People will have to grow balls. When thiefs cant pop anymore, 1* will be totally save.
And although I hate poppers, they keep the 1* on the edge. Take that part away and what is gonna happen? Everybody doing 1* laughing at thiefs? FUN!
or no one will trade anymore. when 9 of 10 trades now fail, why trade? without 1 star protection or a level restriction a bunch of level 40s will just stand outside each gate at jangan and wait for people. and in dawhang a bunch of level 80s will stand outside the gates and wait for people.
standing at the gates with 10 other theives doesnt require teamwork
getting 10 hunters together to fight them requires teamwork.
i think 1 stars are needed unless you have a level restriction system. any if the point of the game is to get high level so you can kill low level players, why not play a single player game with god mode? its just as hard.
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