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satman83
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:26 pm |
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All i can say is WTF
i should be the answer to the topic..... 
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MamaSan
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Post subject: ... Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:47 pm |
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I sorta agree with him...because when I 1st bought an astral 5 or 6 month ago, I thought the description was misleading somehow...
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Increases the "astral" attribute on equipment items by 1.(The attribute will be added if it does not exist)
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restriction:
Can only be used when current number of astral is lower than number of immortal.
It would be more clear if they could just put: under such n such condition
the astral attribute can be added. W/ out leaving such a gap inbetween...
I failed to interprate this as adding imortal b4 adding astral...so I just wasted an astral for nothing....
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mistery
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:57 pm |
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Grimjaw wrote: AMON-Ra wrote: Grimjaw wrote: Morningdew. The solitary rock in the eye of the storm.. Alone she stand...but she stands strong like a mountain.. Breaking the winds...all alone... But she stands..you have to respect her for that.  I don't care what anyone thinks of me for saying it, but you are a child easily mislead. There is nothing wonderful about Morningdew, and all that character is doing is what should have started 12 months ago......and it is little more than damage control. We will see no real changes as a result of this character's actions, all we are seeing is an "impression" of action on Joymax's part. Please stop helping Joymax in this deception. By all means let's cheer them on when they start to ban player botters !! WAKE UP !!You seem to forget that morningdew is but one person. A single man or female can only accomplish so much. Even the greatest roads to this day were made by the dedicated hands of hard working people.. People who are committed to theire jobs.. And if it comes to the point when someone as dedicated as that asks for my hands.. Then i will grind the flesh of my bones.
Morningdew isnt one person,it's a shared account.
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Suppaman
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:00 am |
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wow that dude is sooooo not a business man.
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evilpeta
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:09 am |
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Grimjaw
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:48 am |
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mistery wrote: Grimjaw wrote: AMON-Ra wrote: Grimjaw wrote: Morningdew. The solitary rock in the eye of the storm.. Alone she stand...but she stands strong like a mountain.. Breaking the winds...all alone... But she stands..you have to respect her for that.  I don't care what anyone thinks of me for saying it, but you are a child easily mislead. There is nothing wonderful about Morningdew, and all that character is doing is what should have started 12 months ago......and it is little more than damage control. We will see no real changes as a result of this character's actions, all we are seeing is an "impression" of action on Joymax's part. Please stop helping Joymax in this deception. By all means let's cheer them on when they start to ban player botters !! WAKE UP !!You seem to forget that morningdew is but one person. A single man or female can only accomplish so much. Even the greatest roads to this day were made by the dedicated hands of hard working people.. People who are committed to theire jobs.. And if it comes to the point when someone as dedicated as that asks for my hands.. Then i will grind the flesh of my bones.Morningdew isnt one person,it's a shared account.
You do realise it's all about the principle behind it?
What do you think would happen if joymax lost it's motivation to fight or ban botters hackers and ccfer's right there on the spot.
If we encourage them they tend to work harder and produce better results over time.
It's all about how you make the hand that feeds you,turn away from the bad smelly and stinky food,to the nice and tempting cookie jar.
Those goals have to be attained by patience and hardwork,and motivation.
Whether it's meant or not,it is still is the best course of action to take.
It's like investing money in stocks,it takes time to extract the invested money back, but when it's coming you're way again..
It's coming back with interest.
Remember: only a fool wears but one mask.
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AMON-Ra
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:42 am |
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Grimjaw wrote: You do realise it's all about the principle behind it?
What do you think would happen if joymax lost it's motivation to fight or ban botters hackers and ccfer's right there on the spot.
If we encourage them they tend to work harder and produce better results over time
A nice sentiment and surely you'd be right if we were discussing little Johnny, my sister's 3yr old, and not a greedy corporation who's only action is to create this Morningdew account which is a presence, to attempt to convince less aware people that they are actually "working hard" to fix the problems.
Sorry man, you are nice but you are wrong.
This Corporation has buckets of money and they have the ability to hire the necessary staff to resolve all issues but they have decided (clearly) that this will cut too deeply into their profit margins, so.....
They made Morningdew, and by hearing praise to "Morningdew" all Joymax will do is think they have you you fooled, which they have.
The squeaky wheel gets oiled, let's send the message, as Nightbloom is doing so eloquently, straight to Joymax that positive actions is what Joymax customers are asking for, and nothing less.
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Manowar
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:47 am |
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People like that made me stop posting on the main site forum.
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satman83
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:05 am |
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Manowar wrote: People like that made me stop posting on the main site forum.
+1 on that...god, looking back on those days i can laugh now

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larvs
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:22 am |
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nadare32 wrote: Yea I'm going to have to disagree with MD on plus 3 isn't hard to achieve. In some cases, a weapon can be very hard to plus 3. After spending 15 wep elixirs on a 52 glavie it never got to +3 and sometimes not even to +2. but yea I haven't seen the description for astral so I dont know
Umm, alchemy tip: some weapons are just forged to be unlucky for +3 alchemy. i quit plussing something after i lose the second time. i buy another one, plus it to three in one go. happens everytime to me so far.
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takolin
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:10 am |
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larvs wrote: nadare32 wrote: Yea I'm going to have to disagree with MD on plus 3 isn't hard to achieve. In some cases, a weapon can be very hard to plus 3. After spending 15 wep elixirs on a 52 glavie it never got to +3 and sometimes not even to +2. but yea I haven't seen the description for astral so I dont know Umm, alchemy tip: some weapons are just forged to be unlucky for +3 alchemy. i quit plussing something after i lose the second time. i buy another one, plus it to three in one go. happens everytime to me so far.
I doubt there's such thing as lucky or unlucky weapons.
I know people who couldn't +5 something without an astral. He added an astral and went to +9 in 1 shot with only 1 astral.
The thing with statistics is that it doesn't depend on the previous attemps.
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Let's say the chance of going from +2 => +3 is 35% (I don't know what it is, it's just a number).
If I fail 5 times to +3, the chance on the 6th time stays 35%.
In theory you could never ever get your weapon to +3.
Stop b*tching about it and keep on trying.
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larvs
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:18 am |
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umm, not too much of a post digger, but Ryoko did make an alchemy guide and most of the premise of that thread was an actual quote in the alchemy guides that some weapons have more luck than others. and he did post that he did a lot of alchemy not only for him but also for in game freinds. i also remember he started a "post your alcheny creation" thread and displayed his alchemy creations. (lol! i'm not a fanboy, Ryoko.)
and umm, who's b*tching? pls stop random get-back-atcha statements.
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Stallowned
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:14 pm |
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takolin wrote: larvs wrote: nadare32 wrote: Yea I'm going to have to disagree with MD on plus 3 isn't hard to achieve. In some cases, a weapon can be very hard to plus 3. After spending 15 wep elixirs on a 52 glavie it never got to +3 and sometimes not even to +2. but yea I haven't seen the description for astral so I dont know Umm, alchemy tip: some weapons are just forged to be unlucky for +3 alchemy. i quit plussing something after i lose the second time. i buy another one, plus it to three in one go. happens everytime to me so far. I doubt there's such thing as lucky or unlucky weapons. I know people who couldn't +5 something without an astral. He added an astral and went to +9 in 1 shot with only 1 astral. The thing with statistics is that it doesn't depend on the previous attemps. EG Let's say the chance of going from +2 => +3 is 35% (I don't know what it is, it's just a number). If I fail 5 times to +3, the chance on the 6th time stays 35%. In theory you could never ever get your weapon to +3. Stop b*tching about it and keep on trying.
It's been posted on sro.net that some items are luckier than others.
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KYD
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:26 pm |
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Noobs may think that +3 is hard to get
but after you get to know alchemy better you know its very easy
+5\6\7 its a diffrent story
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Grimjaw
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:19 pm |
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AMON-Ra wrote: Grimjaw wrote: You do realise it's all about the principle behind it?
What do you think would happen if joymax lost it's motivation to fight or ban botters hackers and ccfer's right there on the spot.
If we encourage them they tend to work harder and produce better results over time A nice sentiment and surely you'd be right if we were discussing little Johnny, my sister's 3yr old, and not a greedy corporation who's only action is to create this Morningdew account which is a presence, to attempt to convince less aware people that they are actually "working hard" to fix the problems. Sorry man, you are nice but you are wrong. This Corporation has buckets of money and they have the ability to hire the necessary staff to resolve all issues but they have decided (clearly) that this will cut too deeply into their profit margins, so..... They made Morningdew, and by hearing praise to "Morningdew" all Joymax will do is think they have you you fooled, which they have. The squeaky wheel gets oiled, let's send the message, as Nightbloom is doing so eloquently, straight to Joymax that positive actions is what Joymax customers are asking for, and nothing less.
Well said.
But i am also beeing honost about the fact that i was not aware that a formal letter would be send by Nightbloom.-(Because if i knew about that i would not have made the previous post,hinting at positive encouragements)-
Well regardless of the course of action to take,i can't help but notice we both want the same thing.
And we agree that there's a form of approach needed to turn the tables,because how things are progressing now it's just horrible.
To get things done, you have to be rude and get through to a person who doesn't normally deal with this stuff. Those persons are easy to identify because they don't have a prerecorded introduction tape.
If that letter indeed gets sended to joymax's brass,then by all means add my name to that list if required.
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takolin
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:21 pm |
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Stallowned wrote: takolin wrote: larvs wrote: nadare32 wrote: Yea I'm going to have to disagree with MD on plus 3 isn't hard to achieve. In some cases, a weapon can be very hard to plus 3. After spending 15 wep elixirs on a 52 glavie it never got to +3 and sometimes not even to +2. but yea I haven't seen the description for astral so I dont know Umm, alchemy tip: some weapons are just forged to be unlucky for +3 alchemy. i quit plussing something after i lose the second time. i buy another one, plus it to three in one go. happens everytime to me so far. I doubt there's such thing as lucky or unlucky weapons. I know people who couldn't +5 something without an astral. He added an astral and went to +9 in 1 shot with only 1 astral. The thing with statistics is that it doesn't depend on the previous attemps. EG Let's say the chance of going from +2 => +3 is 35% (I don't know what it is, it's just a number). If I fail 5 times to +3, the chance on the 6th time stays 35%. In theory you could never ever get your weapon to +3. Stop b*tching about it and keep on trying. It's been posted on sro.net that some items are luckier than others.
Show me the post and I'll believe you.
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wizzybeff1
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:33 pm |
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Press "H" and read the alchemy section. It'll tell that each item has it's own amount of luck.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:45 am |
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An anoying noob....He acts like he whas only playing for 3 days
I think Stallowned is right...he is a litl....
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:46 am |
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what a Farking idiot.
it just upsets me in every way i cant see them in real life and cockslap them.
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