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Do u dislike bot? Why?
yes, coz they are kser 4%  4%  [ 4 ]
yes, coz they make the server crowded 11%  11%  [ 12 ]
yes, coz they are mostly ccfer, hacker 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
all above 66%  66%  [ 73 ]
depend 17%  17%  [ 19 ]
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"racist about botters" ... oh come on idiot go back to your cellar, close the door and stfu

I dislike reading shit all day ... go to the tavern plz (no offense ;)

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The main reason I hate botters is because they take up space on the server and then real players can't even log in. But thankfully most of that is taken care of now.

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They also have most of the good weapons, and sometimes leave jewel boxes on the ground. On a happier note, some bot left a wep. elixer lying on the ground and i was able to pick it up. But other then that i think that bots are no good and deserved to be banned. They ruin our economy and the availability of rare weapons.

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You bot, you deserve to be banned. Its simple as that. There isn't much of a discussion. Its against the rules. You don't agree with the rules, don't play.

How bout we all go rob the bank, Best Buy, or the local corner store because we don't feel like working hard for the rewards and benefits? Who cares about the law? Who cares about the people who got a job and worked hard to earn the privilege to afford the things they want?

And don't come with the, "its just a game" mindset like many others try to use to justify their reasons for botting and cheating in game. Its obvious that you, and botters don't comprehend the definition of a MMORPG. A MMORPG is much different than a casual game. A MMORPG attempts to emulate a real word, in that the game is persistent, and continues to fluctuate whether you are playing or not. MMORPG's attempt to capture the player, keep them coming back to the world using some form of rewards or tactics to keep the player interested. Since the game is a persistent world, the game is also continuously updated to keep players interested. Silkroad does this by motivating you to grind so that you can gain access to new PvP skills, a sense of accomplishment that all that grinding was worth it, and the main focus, an overall advantage over the rest of the server in the PvP aspects of the game because of your level. A player who grind's to level 80 legitly will probably continue to play because of the time they invested in the game while a botter or someone who bought an account will most likely get bored in the coming months from attaining the level cap too fast or already being a high for all ready experiencing what the game has to offer. Also because they don't have the since of accomplishment that a legit player has after putting in the time and effort into reaching level 80.

You don't have to be a high level in Silkroad to have fun. Its possible to have fun at lower levels. Certainly, the benefits and fun factor of being a higher level are much better than a lower level but you can still have fun. I know people who have been 2x and 3x for about 3 or 4 months now and still have fun playing.

No one says you have to reach level 70 in 1 month or 2 months. No one says you have to reach xx level in xx amount of days. You play when you feel like it or whenever you can.

For some MMORPG's bots mess up the game's economy, the update schedule, or can even destroy a game.

Its just simple microeconomics of each server's economy. At the start, there was no demand for gold. Someone started gold bots and found a market for their product. Their market was probably a group of people to lazy to grind and earn gold their selves and needed an easy way to get gold. These players, no longer legit, caused prices to rise and made it very hard to afford sos or any else type of good gear in game. Some of the legit players didn't like the fact that they struggled to buy the good gear so this gave them a reason to buy gold also. This in turn, hurted those that continued to play legit the most.

People that use bots to level can throw off the game's update schedule. A company may be forced to release a new area ahead of time than they had planned for in order to compensate for the crowded areas and player complaints. In Silkroad's case, they chose not to change the update schedule. The players were left suffering because there was a extraordinary amount of players at the game's level cap that shouldn't have been there. Jobbing is another form of PvP in Silkroad. Players that botted to 70 made jobbing much harder for lower levels than it should have been. Without the bot program, there would probably be only be a handful of level 70's around August and October instead of over crowded grinding areas and ruined PvP. This would also take the hassle off Joymax from dealing with player complaints and quitting allowing them to put more of their resources into more positive aspects of the game.

The worst part that can happen is the destroying of the game. Developers discontinue development for the game because its has become to corrupt to be saved or the capital needed to invest in cleansing the game could be better used elsewhere.

I'm not going to elaborate on the other negative sides of botting because it has already been said.

If your life is to time consuming to play or you're just too lazy, you shouldn't be playing MMORPG's. Their job is to consume time, keep you logged in, and wanting to come back. If you bot levels, babysit your bot sometimes, constantly checking to see how much exp or sp you earned, what level you are today, then who is truly the MMORPG addict?

And no, having a "life" still does not and never will justify botting. If you cannot find a way to integrate playing legit into that wonderful "life" you have, then don't play.

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Like i Voted i hate them for all reasons.
I grind my ass every Farking day to just gain few more SP's or Exp's %
when some rich bastard sleeping all day getting his char to max lvl with all the nice stuff.

@Da_Realest - dude please dont write so much ^^; i hate reading long posts and just skip them i bet im not the only one.

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Most of all its Joymax's fault imo.
If they want people to follow their rules they should punish those who dont.
They dont do anything about people who break most of their rules, so no one is afraid to cheat.
I simply dont see the bots disappear till Joymax start punishing them.
The people who lvl with a bot actually pay for it so im sure they wont bot again if their character is banned.
If someone is banned for botting, so he makes a new character and bots again, he is simply a plain RETARD and got no life.


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Anubis Ghost wrote:
Like i Voted i hate them for all reasons.
I grind my ass every Farking day to just gain few more SP's or Exp's %
when some rich bastard sleeping all day getting his char to max lvl with all the nice stuff.

@Da_Realest - dude please dont write so much ^^; i hate reading long posts and just skip them i bet im not the only one.
It was only 10 or 15 mins of my time. ^^

And if NukerSilo is as neutral as he or she claims to be and wanted a debate, opinions, etc. then he/she will read my post.

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Of course there is no way to justify botting. What i care about is the personality. Yet, legit players can be worst than a bot, who threat other person like garbage...

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Internet bots, also known as web robots or simply bots, are software applications that run automated tasks over the internet. Typically, bots perform tasks that are both simple and structurally repetitive, at a much higher rate than would be possible for a human editor alone

robot = bot

If the bot doesnt do anything harmful, what's the reason to hate it?. Actually, im neutral about this. I dont want to care something that is not my own business.

The only answer of why ppl hate bot is that humain is selfish. Ppl is afraid that someone else (especially botter) is stronger than him, and ppl always look at bad things of a bot.


ofcourse a botter is going to be stronger. if I could play 24/7 I would be strong to. I would have a boat load of SP and all the gold I ( my BOT ) could pick up.but when it's all said and done all you can say is I cheated and look at my pimped BOT character, ain't he/she the bomb. what fun is that knowing you CHEATED to get where you are? and ALL BOTS are harmful. you may not see it directly, but it's there. It's like counterfitting money in real life. anyone know what that does to the value of a dollar?next time you go to buy gear and think,damn this sh*t is exspensive. you can blame that on the BOTS.

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of course i read, but not all... and stop that green colour that hurt my eyes.
My english is not enough good to understand all the deep meanings about what u said. But most answers that i heard is that ppl dont accept the fact that bot spend less time to play than legit player. Yet, this is only own selfish reasons.

If JM allows to bot, would u use bot?
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- yes. U're nothing different than bot that u claim u hate it
- no. U're a real legit. The pride come 1st :D

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nice post realest, i read it all. you are cool :-D like me.

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so.... in conclusion have fun botting NuclearSilo.

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so.... in conclusion have fun botting NuclearSilo.

If i could bot, i would be lvl 72 now, not 57 :D
I only ask u why u hate bot, but not suggest u to use bot, so dont misundertand

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Whoever loves botters? My answer is All of the Above
Aside from all of the above, they're not playing fair. They're cheating, and it's unfair for people who have to do everything by hand and stop playing when they're busy or out having some life. Unlike these kids, they continue to go to school, do assignments, get drunk, when they come back and check their pc`s, they're already lvl 50 :shock:

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NuclearSilo wrote:
of course i read, but not all... and stop that green colour that hurt my eyes.
My english is not enough good to understand all the deep meanings about what u said. But most answers that i heard is that ppl dont accept the fact that bot spend less time to play than legit player. Yet, this is only own selfish reasons.
I understand.

Shall I stop the green text? No. Sorry.


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If JM allows to bot, would u use bot?
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- yes. U're nothing different than bot that u claim u hate it
- no. U're a real legit. The pride come 1st :D
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Ja THE NAZI wrote:
even though a botter is nice, you should still hate them.


And Hitler said unto his followers, "Even though a jew is nice, you should still hate them".

That kind of thinking causes alot more problems then someone botting.

Please Ja, rethink your conclusion.

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Ja THE NAZI wrote:
even though a botter is nice, you should still hate them.


And Hitler said unto his followers, "Even though a jew is nice, you should still hate them".

That kind of thinking causes alot more problems then someone botting.

Please Ja, rethink your conclusion.


What's your point here???? :? Can u explain more?

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My point is that even though someone may bot you shouldn't hate them based solely on that.

If you're going to blindly hate everyone that skates just because all your other legit friends hate skaters, then you are no worse than a skater yourself.

(Skating = botting.)

I really hate it when a "legit" person buys gold, then acts all high and mighty just cause they dont bot.

You shouldn't hate someone or wish them ill based solely on the fact that they BOT.

BTW Megalomaniac, you can get 100 points of bot-time for only $7.50...If i recall...And Im pretty sure that each point is something like..2 hours?

ANYWAY.

I hate legit people who hate botters, just because they bot, more than I hate a botter.


Whatever though. im out.

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This thread is a total waste of time, Does really
matter if we tell each other why we hate botters?
there has been HEAPS of reasons lieing around the
forum its just another "who hates bots" thread... Total
waste of time...

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I dont care about botters.

Its them thats losing the fun of playing.

Actually, some botters are a bit annoying (spiritpower lol :D )

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DeaDSwarM wrote:
This thread is a total waste of time, Does really
matter if we tell each other why we hate botters?
there has been HEAPS of reasons lieing around the
forum its just another "who hates bots" thread... Total
waste of time...

discussion is discussion, if u dont want to hear then go out, there still ppl who want to chat and share their opinion :D

p.s: none thread is not waste of time, like "ihaveSox", "botter...".....
dont enter if u dont find the title interesting :wink:

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My point is that even though someone may bot you shouldn't hate them based solely on that.

If you're going to blindly hate everyone that skates just because all your other legit friends hate skaters, then you are no worse than a skater yourself.

(Skating = botting.)

I really hate it when a "legit" person buys gold, then acts all high and mighty just cause they dont bot.

You shouldn't hate someone or wish them ill based solely on the fact that they BOT.

BTW Megalomaniac, you can get 100 points of bot-time for only $7.50...If i recall...And Im pretty sure that each point is something like..2 hours?

ANYWAY.

I hate legit people who hate botters, just because they bot, more than I hate a botter.


Whatever though. im out.


I don't hate botters because they BOT, I hate them because botting is destroying the game. If botting had no ill effects on the game I wouldn't care less if you botted.and your skater analogy blows,don't make any sense. I don't BLINDLY hate botters, I hate them for hurting the game. The game is suppose to be fun in a competitive fashion. you take all the competition away by cheating. here's an analogy for you. it's like challanging someone to a knife fight and showing up with a handgun.that's what botting is.And the fact that you hate legit players that hate botters shows to me that you must profit somehow from botting.either you buy gold or bot yourself. why else would you stick up for them? Do your friends or guild mates bot? is that it? enjoy your life,peace.

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NuclearSilo wrote:
DeaDSwarM wrote:
This thread is a total waste of time, Does really
matter if we tell each other why we hate botters?
there has been HEAPS of reasons lieing around the
forum its just another "who hates bots" thread... Total
waste of time...

discussion is discussion, if u dont want to hear then go out, there still ppl who want to chat and share their opinion :D

p.s: none thread is not waste of time, like "ihaveSox", "botter...".....
dont enter if u dont find the title interesting :wink:


No i dont find the threads title interesting... i find them STUPID
Your better off just reviving a dead thread and bringing it back
to life...

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How can you be racist about a bot?

Get a grip of yourself son if people are too lazy to get themselfs to a high level then they shouldnt be a high level its as simple as that.

Its like a lesson in life, there are no shortcuts you only get what you work hard for.


WOW well said, so true..no pain no gain

get high lvl botting, but no satisfaction

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I hate legit people who hate botters, just because they bot, more than I hate a botter.


Whatever though. im out.

WTF are you kidding me? So your saying that you hate botters, yet you say you hate people who hate botters. Hmm, sounds like you've got schitzophrenia to me.

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sounds like everyone needs 10 cup falls of STFU....
thats how stupid this thread is...

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there was someone i knew awhile back who had really great sos gear and loves to show it around... he claims to be legit and grinds his ass off all day and spends shit load of silk... of course he hates bots to hell and if he could kill them all he would...

but guess what? He buys gold with cash, brags about how much gold he has and he sees no problem with it he even tells others to do the same.

Ppl like these are what makes me neutral or even hate legit players more than botters... yea yea gold bots are bitches and player bots are annoying but at least they dont preach and then just go contradict themselves. AND DONT SAY that this is a special case becuz ive seen WAY too many people acting the same way.


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Although I may be called a hypocrit I don't care, I do hate botters but then I do have one or two friends that bot. Their choice to bot is their own, can't change it for them, all you can do is hope they make the right choice when they do get baned for botting.

Going to the point at hand I don't like botters cause they:

1. Crowd the server like others have said.
2. Gold farm crowding the server.
3. Go to SRF/Tavern Posting how there the shit cause there this high lvl they farmed there skills good they can kill uniques etc just proving that their the best cause of their "accomplishments"

And alot of their reasons are stupid saying I don't have alot of time to play cause of work etc just play when you do have free time, theres this retard called amitamba or what ever how you spell his name who openly say's he bots in the freakin globals and doesn't even get baned he said to me he doesn't have alot of time to play so he bots but he was talking to my friend saying thanks to him botting he can play his freakin ps2 while he bots lol... it's just retarded ya know?

Conclusion, most botters are retarded but it doesn't matter it's only a matter of time b4 joymax bans them using their new system that's already baned alot of botters as it is so it's all good. And at the guy who posted on page 1 about you should only like botters when there baned +1

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bots are retarded. they should go to prison for 5 years when they get caught botting. They fuc k up the economy and the xp balance and their excuse to bot are so lame. see my sig. no comments :!:

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WTF are you kidding me? So your saying that you hate botters, yet you say you hate people who hate botters. Hmm, sounds like you've got schitzophrenia to me.


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why dont you bold the part that says "just because they bot" you numbskull.

No wonder you wouldn't understand.

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there was someone i knew awhile back who had really great sos gear and loves to show it around... he claims to be legit and grinds his ass off all day and spends shit load of silk... of course he hates bots to hell and if he could kill them all he would...

but guess what? He buys gold with cash, brags about how much gold he has and he sees no problem with it he even tells others to do the same.

Ppl like these are what makes me neutral or even hate legit players more than botters... yea yea gold bots are bitches and player bots are annoying but at least they dont preach and then just go contradict themselves. AND DONT SAY that this is a special case becuz ive seen WAY too many people acting the same way.
sorry, but that guy wasn't legit

gold buying is as bad to this game as botting - and not allowed

so you can stop hating legit people, because they don't bot, buy gold, hack accounts, dupe gold or scam people (yes I count in this one too)

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