Meteor falls in Russia

Bartic · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:36 am

Tasdik wrote:

Bartic wrote:

Edit: Smallville, anyone?

Dibs on Lana.

*jizzed in my pants*

Nick Invaders · **Joined:** Apr 2009 **Posts:** 1105 **Location:**

BuDo wrote:

Nick Invaders wrote:

It's harder to track a meteor if you have no idea it exists. Even if we did have radar, you would have only mere minutes at most to know its coming. From what I heard, we know only a very small percentage of the meteors that exist in our cosmic neighborhood. Our telescopes can't watch the entire sky at all times,we don't have enough telescopes for that.

Please...you're giving me a headache....We can track the movements of meteors that are weeks/months away from reaching our planet....

We can, but not all of them, and not necessarily by radar.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

BuDo wrote:

You obviously don't understand how radar works in its basic form....The object being detected don't need to emit light..all it needs is to be able have radio waves bounce off it and back to a radar station... If they are already able to detect and track other meteors that are so far away it shouldn't be too hard to detect and track one that was so close....

You also don't understand (or choosing not to think about it) that a missile can be (and are at times) fired in one direction but come at it's target from a totally different direction (due to its long range capabilities) in a effort to confuse/hide its true point of origin...

we dont fire radar in every direction in the sky to look for meteors... we fire radar at very specific locations in the sky which have already been calculated before hand.

larger meteors are easier to see because they are either visible to a telescope or they interfere with an experiment.

btw we have radar to detect planes in the sky... thats how they would detect a missile (UFO would send alerts around the world)

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

Bartic · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:54 pm

^At first I thought meteor is falling toward camera.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

ROFL.. Nice find there!! @Sanktum

LillDev!l · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2587 **Location:** OTL&OG

Nice find ind, that's awesome xD

Mayumi · **Posted:** Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:53 am

NASA has a tracking system = NEAR-EARTH ASTEROID TRACKING (NEAT)

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

penfold1992 wrote:

BuDo wrote:

You obviously don't understand how radar works in its basic form....The object being detected don't need to emit light..all it needs is to be able have radio waves bounce off it and back to a radar station... If they are already able to detect and track other meteors that are so far away it shouldn't be too hard to detect and track one that was so close....

You also don't understand (or choosing not to think about it) that a missile can be (and are at times) fired in one direction but come at it's target from a totally different direction (due to its long range capabilities) in a effort to confuse/hide its true point of origin...

we dont fire radar in every direction in the sky to look for meteors... we fire radar at very specific locations in the sky which have already been calculated before hand.

larger meteors are easier to see because they are either visible to a telescope or they interfere with an experiment.

btw we have radar to detect planes in the sky... thats how they would detect a missile (UFO would send alerts around the world)

Are you just trolling or are you that nutz?...what radar system you know of whether it detects planes/meteors/ships/missiles that only fires at one specific location or used in that way (which would be stupid in light of any possible threat)...radar is 360 degrees...Even the ones NASA uses...

I find it hard to believe that Russia or the States don't have radar watching their air space for anything out of the ordinary (whether small objects or large).... Which is why this meteor hit surprised me...Anyways I bet after this they will be on the look out going forward and will probably have interceptor missiles on the ready...

Blindfire · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 3844 **Location:** ...

BuDo wrote:

Anyways I bet after this they will be on the look out going forward and will probably have interceptor missiles on the ready...

Interceptor missile vs. space rock. The meteor entered the atmosphere at approximately 54,000 km/h or 15 km/s an intercontinental ballistic missile travels to low earth orbit at a speed of about 7 km/s. Even if they managed to hit it the missile wouldn't make the rock evaporate, very large pieces would still fall to earth at the very least at their terminal velocity. Plus, this is such a rare occurrence that to dedicate the funding to put a meteor defense missile in every major city would be ludicrous.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Blindfire wrote:

Interceptor missile vs. space rock. The meteor entered the atmosphere at approximately 54,000 km/h or 15 km/s an intercontinental ballistic missile travels to low earth orbit at a speed of about 7 km/s. Even if they managed to hit it the missile wouldn't make the rock evaporate, very large pieces would still fall to earth at the very least at their terminal velocity. Plus, this is such a rare occurrence that to dedicate the funding to put a meteor defense missile in every major city would be ludicrous.

+1 Btw: Don't forget the "Earth" is also rotating.

Bartic · **Posted:** Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:49 pm

Blindfire wrote:

BuDo wrote:

Anyways I bet after this they will be on the look out going forward and will probably have interceptor missiles on the ready...

Interceptor missile vs. space rock. The meteor entered the atmosphere at approximately 54,000 km/h or 15 km/s an intercontinental ballistic missile travels to low earth orbit at a speed of about 7 km/s. Even if they managed to hit it the missile wouldn't make the rock evaporate, very large pieces would still fall to earth at the very least at their terminal velocity. Plus, this is such a rare occurrence that to dedicate the funding to put a meteor defense missile in every major city would be ludicrous.

Most of those things don't matter, because they can calculate the trajectory of a meteorite. But, you're right, this happens rarely, so they won't give money for any antimeasures, except for sky scan, which they already should've funded.

Mayumi · **Posted:** Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:30 pm

@Penfold

Lesson on radar

"The antenna is usually curved so it focuses the waves into a precise, narrow beam, but radar antennas also typically rotate so they can detect movements over a large area. The radio waves travel outward from the antenna at the speed of light (186,000 miles or 300,000 km per second) and keep going until they hit something. Then some of them bounce back toward the antenna in a beam of reflected radio waves also traveling at the speed of light. The speed of the waves is crucially important. If an enemy jet plane is approaching at over 3,000 km/h (2,000 mph), the radar beam needs to travel much faster than this to reach the plane, return to the transmitter, and trigger the alarm in time. That's no problem, because radio waves (and light) travel fast enough to go seven times around the world in a second! If an enemy plane is 160 km (100 miles) away, a radar beam can travel that distance and back in less than a thousandth of a second."

You was right on one thing penfold, that it focuses to a certain location, but as it curved it moves all the time and searches in a bigger area,

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Alien invasion, at Somerset nature reserve baffles scientis

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An unexplained jelly-like substance which is said to occur during meteor showers has been found on a wildlife park in Somerset.

A "weird" green slime said in folklore to appear at the same time as meteors hit Earth has been found in a birdlife park in Somerset. The RSPB has appealed for help in identifying the slime, which is said to be scattered on grass banks close to pools and lakes around Ham Wall Nature Reserve near Glastonbury.

The jelly-like substance could be bacteria, fungus or toad innards, wildlife experts said.

Some believe it could be a substance that has been written about for centuries called star or astral jelly, which is said to appear in the wake of meteor showers. Its appearance has coincided with a meteor strike in Russia and the harmless fly-by of an asteroid at a record distance from Earth last week.
Read More Here

Oh noes!

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Man I wish an Alien invasion would happen. That way, we can give North Korea something to shoot at, instead of us.

Mayumi · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:07 pm

*BlackFox wrote:

Alien invasion, at Somerset nature reserve baffles scientis

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An unexplained jelly-like substance which is said to occur during meteor showers has been found on a wildlife park in Somerset.

A "weird" green slime said in folklore to appear at the same time as meteors hit Earth has been found in a birdlife park in Somerset. The RSPB has appealed for help in identifying the slime, which is said to be scattered on grass banks close to pools and lakes around Ham Wall Nature Reserve near Glastonbury.

The jelly-like substance could be bacteria, fungus or toad innards, wildlife experts said.

Some believe it could be a substance that has been written about for centuries called star or astral jelly, which is said to appear in the wake of meteor showers. Its appearance has coincided with a meteor strike in Russia and the harmless fly-by of an asteroid at a record distance from Earth last week.
Read More Here

Oh noes!

Better call in the GhostBusters...

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

What is the Ghostbusters' phone number? ^

Mayumi · **Posted:** Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:01 am

*BlackFox wrote:

What is the Ghostbusters' phone number? ^

Call GhostBusters on 555-2368

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

Blindfire wrote:

BuDo wrote:

Anyways I bet after this they will be on the look out going forward and will probably have interceptor missiles on the ready...

Interceptor missile vs. space rock. The meteor entered the atmosphere at approximately 54,000 km/h or 15 km/s an intercontinental ballistic missile travels to low earth orbit at a speed of about 7 km/s. Even if they managed to hit it the missile wouldn't make the rock evaporate, very large pieces would still fall to earth at the very least at their terminal velocity. Plus, this is such a rare occurrence that to dedicate the funding to put a meteor defense missile in every major city would be ludicrous.

You're not thinking clearly...or misinterpreting the situation...We're not talking about a rock the size of Texas here...We're talking about a rock that was small enough to break up in the air alone and turned into small pieces and cause some minor damage...If that same rock was hit by a missile miles up in the air there would be nothing to see as it would indeed be evaporated..... Even if it was a a huge rock you still can't expect a nation to fold their hands and say "it doesn't make sense to do anything about it cuz large pieces would still fall to earth"

And as for setting up missile sites in every major city that is a dumb comment to make as that's not needed. But its a safe bet to say that countries like Russia does have missile sites at strategic points within (and outside) its borders to defend itself from missile threats...those same sites can be used to prevent the damages and loss of lives that can occur from a meteor...We can also detect the approach of these rocks days/weeks in advance...so there goes your theory on trying to hit a speeding rock that is supposedly faster than a ballistics missile....Despite the rock's speed it can still be tracked and intercepted..and with days to prepare it just got easier...

Blindfire · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 3844 **Location:** ...

BuDo wrote:

[color=#000000]You're not thinking clearly...or misinterpreting the situation...We're not talking about a rock the size of Texas here...We're talking about a rock that was small enough to break up in the air alone and turned into small pieces and cause some minor damage...If that same rock was hit by a missile miles up in the air there would be nothing to see as it would indeed be evaporated..... Even if it was a a huge rock you still can't expect a nation to fold their hands and say "it doesn't make sense to do anything about it cuz large pieces would still fall to earth"

The meteor was estimated to be the size of a school bus and the explosion of said meteor was estimated to amount to the equivalent of 30 Hiroshima bombs. Pieces of the meteorite are being found in Russia. Hitting it with a missile wasn't going to vaporise it.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

Blindfire wrote:

BuDo wrote:

You're not thinking clearly...or misinterpreting the situation...We're not talking about a rock the size of Texas here...We're talking about a rock that was small enough to break up in the air alone and turned into small pieces and cause some minor damage...If that same rock was hit by a missile miles up in the air there would be nothing to see as it would indeed be evaporated..... Even if it was a a huge rock you still can't expect a nation to fold their hands and say "it doesn't make sense to do anything about it cuz large pieces would still fall to earth"

The meteor was estimated to be the size of a school bus and the explosion of said meteor was estimated to amount to the equivalent of 30 Hiroshima bombs. Pieces of the meteorite are being found in Russia. Hitting it with a missile wasn't going to vaporise it.

The atmosphere alone caused this school bus size rock to be broken down into small pieces. If it was hit with a missile high up in the sky it would break up into smaller pieces beforehand and those smaller pieces would have to deal with the same atmosphere capable of breaking up a school bus size rock...Those smaller pieces would be vaporized by the time they got closer to the ground like so many other small rocks that fall to earth on a daily basis...they burn up into nothing going unnoticed......Even if these smaller pieces didn't get vaporized the effects from them would have been 100 time less in terms of damage caused...

The rock may have interacted with our atmosphere with a force equivalent to 30 Hiroshima bombs but it sure has hell did not create the same effect or half of Russia would have been wiped out. The atmosphere absorbed it all..and if it can do that to a bus size rock then football sized rocks (and less) would be a joke.

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

Ganja · **Joined:** Sep 2009 **Posts:** 1494 **Location:**

Back in 1908 a meteorite hit Russia too, I learned about it when The History Channel was playing a bunch of apocalyptic crap because the new year was coming around.

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It is estimated the asteroid entered Earth's atmosphere traveling at a speed of about 33,500 miles per hour. During its quick plunge, the 220-million-pound space rock heated the air surrounding it to 44,500 degrees Fahrenheit. At 7:17 a.m. (local Siberia time), at a height of about 28,000 feet, the combination of pressure and heat caused the asteroid to fragment and annihilate itself, producing a fireball and releasing energy equivalent to about 185 Hiroshima bombs. More

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