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 Post subject: Chinese immune to ice @ cap?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:15 pm 
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Hey hey, I was just wondering if Chinese chars are also immune (getting resist all the time) to ice at cap? And if, do they need to have fire shield or only good accs? And all cleric builds are totally immune to ice IIRC?

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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you need 20% on each acc and then 20 resist on fireshield(not sure what level that is)

dunno about euros

does it really matter? You quit didnt you? =)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:04 pm 
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does it really matter? You quit didnt you? =)

I never said that I quit, even thought it may have sounded very much so. But hey, thanks for the help :)

Btw, if my Cold Wave skills is higher lvl then my enemies Holw Word stuff, will he still be immune?

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:08 pm 
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Cold wave and frost nova must be the two useless silkroad chinese skills ever made

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Master_of_Puppets wrote:
Cold wave and frost nova must be the two useless silkroad chinese skills ever made

>_<

They are awesome in PvE, and fun as hell to use on noobs :D

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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Master_of_Puppets wrote:
Cold wave and frost nova must be the two useless silkroad chinese skills ever made

>_<

They are awesome in PvE, and fun as hell to use on noobs :D


Hehe yeah, they also look pretty cool. Shame I never had the sp to properly lvl them :[

Anyways, Chinese need fire shield to be immune, otherwise it's only 80% immunity. I'm not sure about holy word/spell though, I think if they only have holy word up till like lvl 8 stats and you do a lvl 9 stat on them they can get it but for a shortened period. But if they also have accessory with resistance on them there's a chance they are totally immune.

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Ice or any skill that is status affecting should never be rendered useless by 100% inmmunity. 90% maybe but never 100%. It's just retarded the way joymax has it.

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I've noticed that high lvl ice goes through low lvl holy spell. Also a lot of idiots assume holy spell = full immunity, but that's not true, specially to chinese imbues as long as it's higher lvl than the holy spell. I go ice punching on stupid 110 clerics sometimes and watch them wonder why they keep getting frozen.

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I've noticed that high lvl ice goes through low lvl holy spell. Also a lot of idiots assume holy spell = full immunity, but that's not true, specially to chinese imbues as long as it's higher lvl than the holy spell. I go ice punching on stupid 110 clerics sometimes and watch them wonder why they keep getting frozen.

Hehe, well I thought holy word was knida like immune since, and kinda assumed it since all euro buffs are OP >_>

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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apan wrote:
Goseki wrote:
I've noticed that high lvl ice goes through low lvl holy spell. Also a lot of idiots assume holy spell = full immunity, but that's not true, specially to chinese imbues as long as it's higher lvl than the holy spell. I go ice punching on stupid 110 clerics sometimes and watch them wonder why they keep getting frozen.

Hehe, well I thought holy word was knida like immune since, and kinda assumed it since all euro buffs are OP >_>

i would skill ice still bcoz cap is a long way away and lots of non-immune ppl along the way :D

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apan wrote:
Goseki wrote:
I've noticed that high lvl ice goes through low lvl holy spell. Also a lot of idiots assume holy spell = full immunity, but that's not true, specially to chinese imbues as long as it's higher lvl than the holy spell. I go ice punching on stupid 110 clerics sometimes and watch them wonder why they keep getting frozen.

Hehe, well I thought holy word was knida like immune since, and kinda assumed it since all euro buffs are OP >_>

i would skill ice still bcoz cap is a long way away and lots of non-immune ppl along the way :D

Word. Getting from 1-110 does take a while ^^ And Cold Wave/Frost Nova is great for fighting mobs, which you will do alot from 1-110 :P And btw, no chinese can be immune to ice below lvl 68 :D

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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apan wrote:
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i would skill ice still bcoz cap is a long way away and lots of non-immune ppl along the way :D

Word. Getting from 1-110 does take a while ^^ And Cold Wave/Frost Nova is great for fighting mobs, which you will do alot from 1-110 :P And btw, no chinese can be immune to ice below lvl 68 :D


Not entirely sure but I think you can be immune before that. I think a friend farmed at nachal with 9gap and was immune.

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You can be immune while farming at nachals. I was immune to zombie and shock.

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You only need fire lvl 12 to be immune...

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Oh, I didn't know what the numbers meant at first, now I understand ^^ And Goseki, lvl 11 is enough :)

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese immune to ice @ cap?
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Oh, I didn't know what the numbers meant at first, now I understand ^^ And Goseki, lvl 11 is enough :)


Right. I forgot i took 12 so i could have the 3% phy dmg inc.

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Oh, I didn't know what the numbers meant at first, now I understand ^^ And Goseki, lvl 11 is enough :)


Right. I forgot i took 12 so i could have the 3% phy dmg inc.


Doesn't the max resistance to stats get increased too? If that's the case you won't be able to be immune at lower lvl's with 11 fire =p But I'm not sure if every degree has 20% reduce per accessory piece.

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Goseki wrote:
I've noticed that high lvl ice goes through low lvl holy spell. Also a lot of idiots assume holy spell = full immunity, but that's not true, specially to chinese imbues as long as it's higher lvl than the holy spell. I go ice punching on stupid 110 clerics sometimes and watch them wonder why they keep getting frozen.



Well, it's more like that. With holy word/spell you are almost immune already. If you have at least some pimped acc's you'll be completely immune quite easily. I remember that my warlock/cleric was completely immune to shock from Wing Tribe Chasers lv.85/87 with lv.70 mastery.

Afaik, the holy word works completely different than the fire shield series. The fire shield series works similar to the acc's. It just removes a certain part of the status. If you remove 100% in total, you'll be immune.

The Holy word reduces the status effect by a certain ammount. For example Holy Word Lv.5 reduces 128 Effect points from each status. First the acc's will remove a certain part of the status. After that the Holy Word will take away a certain effect value from the remaining ammount. It's not that hard to get immune, even against monsters, which are a lot higher. With lv.64 Holy Word i got immune against Lv.8X status effects.


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