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 Post subject: Re: Why someone should be legit...from ones own experience.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:27 am 
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Why should you be legit?

Very simple, whats the point of letting your pc play a game for you?
Its like if you let the Stork bang your wife and you deliver/raise the baby.
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The only reason I have a bot on my computer is to control something I can't control that should be controlled (confusing yet?)

I'm speaking about loot pets. If you have one you probably know what I am talking about then. In game you only have 3 options two of which are pretty much narrowed down and a 3rd option that encompasses EVERY OTHER ITEM IN THE GAME. If I choose to turn this option off I miss out on tablets, stones, elixers, etc. But if I turn it on I get the 8 or so different alchemy materials along with a ton of useless bolts and arrows.

Other than that I can't understand botting, what's the point of even having this game downloaded if you are never going to play it? I love this game because of the wonderful graphics, and when you start getting into your later levels just the ability to destroy things.


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Why should you be legit?

Very simple, whats the point of letting your pc play a game for you?
Its like if you let the Stork bang your wife and you deliver/raise the baby.
NO FUN


Yes... compare Silkroad with rasing baby and sex more.

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so many ppl getting banned in this thread.


Lol, if you were at all referring to me then I would rather not want to be part of these forums that's ignorant enough to Ban somebody for what I said.

I agree with everybody about not using a bot, and I wouldn't have the free version on my computer if it wasn't for the ability to choose what my pet picks up. Something that I should have the option to do anyways.


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so many ppl getting banned in this thread.


Lol, if you were at all referring to me then I would rather not want to be part of these forums that's ignorant enough to Ban somebody for what I said.

I agree with everybody about not using a bot, and I wouldn't have the free version on my computer if it wasn't for the ability to choose what my pet picks up. Something that I should have the option to do anyways.

It's semantics (I think that's the word anyways...) Some will think having the bot for any feature at all should be an instant ban, others will see your reasoning and say that it is a fair reason, even more might say "What's to keep him from using the whole bot?"

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Squirt wrote:
Why should you be legit?

Very simple, whats the point of letting your pc play a game for you?
Its like if you let the Stork bang your wife and you deliver/raise the baby.
NO FUN

Winning the lotto or working your ass off to pay bills and eat?

Think id rather win the lotto.


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so many ppl getting banned in this thread.


Lol, if you were at all referring to me then I would rather not want to be part of these forums that's ignorant enough to Ban somebody for what I said.

I agree with everybody about not using a bot, and I wouldn't have the free version on my computer if it wasn't for the ability to choose what my pet picks up. Something that I should have the option to do anyways.

It's semantics (I think that's the word anyways...) Some will think having the bot for any feature at all should be an instant ban, others will see your reasoning and say that it is a fair reason, even more might say "What's to keep him from using the whole bot?"

Forgot the name of the bot, and it's not even allowed to say the name, but I remember when logging was horrible and you would d/c some people used a program just for the reason the client would not d/c when the server was full.

It was still bannable. It's 3rd party software.

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Winning the lotto or working your ass off to pay bills and eat?

Think id rather win the lotto.


I don't see how is botting in the game anything like winning the lotto in real life. It's more like doing illegal stuff to win money easily, isntead of working your ass off for it. Criminals are (mostly) getting punished in real life. Unfortunately that's not the case in SRO.

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Winning the lotto or working your ass off to pay bills and eat?

Think id rather win the lotto.


I don't see how is botting in the game anything like winning the lotto in real life. It's more like doing illegal stuff to win money easily, isntead of working your ass off for it. Criminals are (mostly) getting punished in real life. Unfortunately that's not the case in SRO.

alright.. then if there was something to get a good amount of money and have a 100% chance of not getting caught i think i would do it.

Thats the same as sro..


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If by doing that "something" you were actually doing harm to others, would you not care and still do it?

I know we can't expect the player's moral philosophy to withhold them from botting, as most of them are just kids. That's why I don't blame the community for this mess as much as I blame Joymax.

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Iv botted since 60cap (was legit from 59 to 70)
Iv quit now (about 4-5months ago)
You say that as a legit player you get more experience in playing the game.. which is partly true for the first few months depending on how much you bot.. but to be honest.. I knew more about the game than my legit friends back at 60 to 80cap.. 90 onwards every one botted.

I don't know about you but grinding 5hours (if you have a prem+) per day is just too much. I must say that a bot levels much faster then a legit player. Same time span? maybe.. but per day a bot will level up faster since it goes 24/7

Joymax is only banning goldbots, not player bots.. you have the same chance of getting banned as a legit player if you bot

I wouldnt mind playing the game legit if every one else did.. but im not gonna sit on my ass 5hours+ per day just so i can see a player bot grind 24/7 and level up faster then me. Its not the players fault that they bot.. its Joymaxs fault for not doing any thing about it.
If the parents of 8year old boy allows him to eat sweets he will eat them, its not the boys fault its the parents.

@ 60, 70, 80(non euro)
I was so into the game as a botter i used to bot while i was at school/ out and when i had time i used to go on trade runs, thief people, pvp, job war etc. Since euro cap came out the jobbing system has died.. cause there are like 4x more map space to check for traders.

The thing that killed the game was the increase in map size not botters.

Thats just my 2cents



BTW for all you feeding SRF bot busters out there.. i havent played the game in 4-5months - this forum has a 90day "havent used a bot" rule

there is also an unspoken precedent of people getting banned for being so bold as to invoke said rule as if they have any control at all.

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If by doing that "something" you were actually doing harm to others, would you not care and still do it?

I know we can't expect the player's moral philosophy to withhold them from botting, as most of them are just kids. That's why I don't blame the community for this mess as much as I blame Joymax.

believe me, most of the people that bot are not kids. They are adults.
You may think they are kids because most of the turks cant speak good english and just say fck mather etc.

Well to me its not the botters that are ruining the game. It's Joymax doing nothing about it.
I wouldnt physically hurt some one for money.. well to be honest i wouldnt steal money myself... i guess that is not a good comparison towards me.. but it may be for the SRO community.


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if you want a better comparision, botting is more like a dishwasher. you still have to load it, maintain it, and often enough you still have to take care of things by hand. so if youre evil enough to own or use a dishwasher, you may be of the same ilk as an sro botter.

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if you want a better comparision, botting is more like a dishwasher. you still have to load it, maintain it, and often enough you still have to take care of things by hand. so if youre evil enough to own or use a dishwasher, you may be of the same ilk as an sro botter.

i think you have just figured what botting actuality is! It's a dishwasher! I love my dishwasher.. but i hate filling it up.


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believe me, most of the people that bot are not kids. They are adults.

Nope. 100% made up, pulled-out-of-your-ass bullshit.


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if you want a better comparision, botting is more like a dishwasher. you still have to load it, maintain it, and often enough you still have to take care of things by hand. so if youre evil enough to own or use a dishwasher, you may be of the same ilk as an sro botter.

i think you have just figured what botting actuality is! It's a dishwasher! I love my dishwasher.. but i hate filling it up.

now realize, you witch-hunting morons that are going to jump on this like doron on a korean wang, im not promoting, nor advocating botting. im simpling being real about what it is. theres no need to exaggerate and romanticize it like its something f.ucking epic. its genuinely not. you know how i know. because i guarantee that 10 years from now, botting will be the farthest thing from your mind when youre dealing with REALITY and not trying to make yourself look cool to a remenant group of people from some game/forum.
play the game because you enjoy it. grind it out because its fun and relaxing, continue to play because of good friends, but dont come here and pretend you are special because you play a game like its supposed to be played. thats very much like chris rock says, dont brag about doing shit you SHOULD be doing, like "I PAY MY BILLS!" or "I FEED MY CHILDREN!"
"I PUSH BUTTONS AND CLICK A MOUSE!" good, thats what you are supposed to do, its not special.

its also rather ignorant to brag about botting for that matter. "I PUSH BUTTONS AND CLICK THE MOUSE... ON THE PORN SITE IM WATCHING WHILE MY GAME PLAYS ITSELF!"

moral of the story, do what you do for you and no one else. if you have to make a wall of text justifying your choice to activly participate in a game just so you can sleep, you have problems

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The only reason why SRO has such extreme EXP rates is because there is NO end game content. What the fuck do you do at end game? Standing outside the gate waiting to kill the next person that put their cape on.

Who cares about end game content? I'd take increased exp and sp rates any day.


If you don't care about end game content, then you shouldn't want increased exp rates. The increase in exp rates will... get you to the end game faster. Since you just said you don't care about end game, why try to get there faster?

Once you get there, there won't be much to do besides (like someone already said) stand outside the gate waiting to kill someone. If 3495/3500 people on a server all race to the cap, then there will just be 3495 people standing outside Jangan waiting to kill one of the 5 noobs in the server who might happen to come out of the city.

Sounds... fun? :roll:

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The best botter is worse than the worst legit. Why? They're cheating. Anyone can be good when you cheat. In this game, cheating is buying gold to get the best gear. Botting to farm SP and drops. Blah blah blah. Don't have enough? Keep botting. You'll get your suns. I don't really get any sense of accomplishment from cheating. The "loser" thinks I'm better than he is, but so what? I know I had to cheat to beat him so what is it worth? It ain't worth shit. Some people get their sense of self-worth from others, so beating them (even if by cheating) makes them feel great. More power to them. They're still worse than the worst non-cheater.


And the people who cheat "legitimately", what are they? I don't want to defend botting here, but I think many people like you here are so focussed on botting being the only way to cheat, that you forget how much other people abuse the game in different ways. People going bard solely to abuse parties and outlevel anyone else, powerlevels, scamming money to afford suns, and what not, you don't need a bot to cheat the game. Cheating doesn't mean botting only, cheating is abusing the game to get an unfair advantage above others, no matter how you do it. People need to understand this is a multiplayer online game, a social game, the point is to have fun in the community, not to ditch your friends and outlevel everyone else just to spread your ego all over the game.

In fact the worst legit is worse than the best bot, because he'd be the kind of legit who not only abuses the game and cheats, but also abuse the legit community's rules while still getting his ass kissed by the other legits. Gotta hate people like that.

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I'm really not in the mood to read the replies so im just gonna respond to ur 1st post(well as much as i've bothered to read of it at least)

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1. You are 100% chance guaranteed for not getting ban for using an exploit, by exploit I mean by a program which will auto pick up/kill and other type of functions.

you have 99% chance of not getting banned for botting and 100% chance of not getting banned for botting if you buy silk

2.Your playing the game, and your receiving more experience and knowledge which makes you more wise than say a bot player.

so I've been playing since 60-70 cap, I have all the knwoledge, its ok for me to bot now?

3. The legit players are on the same term as you, all is fair game as being a legit, it all depends on you if your willing to work hard and reach a desirable goal.

that seems retarded as you say yourself 3/4 of the community is botting then by botting you have even more friends and within the range of bot characters isnt it fair as well?

4. Wouldn't you rather say "I reached level 60 by working hard and having the determination" instead of saying "I used a program which got me where I am now".

lvl 60? sure....you do realize that most botters call legits no lifers or noobs or idiots for actually spending exorbitant amounts of time leveling up their chars by hand? especially the lvl 70+ chars?

5. You play the game for what it is. Which means, your in party's grinding it up with others, chatting with others. Your making more friends while your doing your "Job" *Trader,Theif, Hunter*.

true, but there are bot grind parties. If as you say 3/4 of the server bots then how is the remaining 1/4 going to have fun jobbing while facing no real competition?

6. I do not know about you guys, but being a legit player, Silkroad has became so much more appealing to me than before, the art work, and the skills and the whole package is truly amazing and sometimes we forget what we take granted for.

yes it is a good game, no argument there

7."But I hate trying to collect 300 items from a quest -.-" That's something I hear a lot from people, and it is understandable, the Silkroad quest can be extreme some times. However, being legit, once again has its advantages. Thankfully more of those type of quest are not really near beginning areas nor a more upper begining area. Since your legit, you have parted with people, you are now in a legit guild, and you have a connection with many others with some at your level some higher or lower, which can help you complete it. Since your in a party, you can get it done faster then if you were to be AFK.

if 3/4 of the server bots and most players are botters then it stands to reason that they have their own guilds filled with ppl that bot and hugely outnumber legits. Do you think they cant get help from them?

8. This may relate more towards number two but being legit, you get this connection with your person, you understand your weakest points and your strongest points. Not saying people who are bots do not play and do not understand this, but being legit, your more in depth of knowing these types of things. Which in the future will help you during PVP or during a party, knowing your place in a certain position is very important.

Yes you know your char better but ppl are fast learners and sro isn't really the most complex game in terms of pvp(excepting a few chars) also i have seen botters adjust to chars and skills quite fast. Some ppl just have a knack for it....maybe bcoz they are seasoned gamers used to playing such games?

9. Being legit and knowing other legit players, a type of trust is build in a way. I would rather have my legit friend help me trade something to my other account than my bot friend any time. If your not willing to play the game for what it is, then why should you care to not stealing something from a friend, bots are greedy people...how do I know this? They bot.

if said person can bot, he can probably multi client or use other similar means to not rely on any possibly corrupt third pary

10. Your one of the few people in the game who prove people wrong. You show others that people can be more than just greedy, cheating, and lazy people.

yes obviously the reason why any1 plays the game legit is to prove how much better we are than bots....



I don't support bots or anything but I find your post to be ridiculously retarded. Why are you making this a competition between bots and legits? Or more importantly why do you feel like legits need to justify themselves or sell their qualities to the incoming masses of seemingly weak willed "newbs who have no real desire to play legit and just want to bot and take it easy?".


I'm sure the rest of your post is also some stupid argument in support of the above mentioned points, so I'm guessing you can determine my opinion of it right?

We play as legits bcoz we like to play the game. Char security, less chance of getting hacked or some other shit should be obvious even to the youngest players who start in this game. People are not idiots to such a degree my friend. They have the right, knowledge and power to decide whether they want to play the game fairly like the rest of us or cheat. I'm sure most of these botters have also consciously chosen to do what they have done. They were not forced into it nor were they in any way ignorant of the rules which stay common throughout most mmo's.

P.S. Please don't go hold a witch hunt over me for this. I do not bot or support botting but I do not like these kinds of posts.

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allow me to say that anyone who uses 5 hours everyday to something useful later in life usually has a great carreer.

it's k if u mess around for 1 year in ur life when ur young, but u gotta snap out of it

even 2 hours everyday, that's just too much.

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allow me to say that anyone who uses 5 hours everyday to something useful later in life usually has a great carreer.

it's k if u mess around for 1 year in ur life when ur young, but u gotta snap out of it

even 2 hours everyday, that's just too much.


Wait, so all the legits on Azteca need to "snap out of it"? ;)

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allow me to say that anyone who uses 5 hours everyday to something useful later in life usually has a great carreer.

it's k if u mess around for 1 year in ur life when ur young, but u gotta snap out of it

even 2 hours everyday, that's just too much.


Wait, so all the legits on Azteca need to "snap out of it"? ;)


I'm a legit on Azteca. I have two legit characters on there. Mind you, they are only lvl 8 - 13, but they are 100% legit! :P

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I'm a legit on Azteca. I have two legit characters on there. Mind you, they are only lvl 8 - 13, but they are 100% legit! :P

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believe me, most of the people that bot are not kids. They are adults.

Nope. 100% made up, pulled-out-of-your-ass bullshit.

Seems like all the legits are kids.. having hissy fits about people that bot

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if you want a better comparision, botting is more like a dishwasher. you still have to load it, maintain it, and often enough you still have to take care of things by hand. so if youre evil enough to own or use a dishwasher, you may be of the same ilk as an sro botter.

i think you have just figured what botting actuality is! It's a dishwasher! I love my dishwasher.. but i hate filling it up.

now realize, you witch-hunting morons that are going to jump on this like doron on a korean wang, im not promoting, nor advocating botting. im simpling being real about what it is. theres no need to exaggerate and romanticize it like its something f.ucking epic. its genuinely not. you know how i know. because i guarantee that 10 years from now, botting will be the farthest thing from your mind when youre dealing with REALITY and not trying to make yourself look cool to a remenant group of people from some game/forum.
play the game because you enjoy it. grind it out because its fun and relaxing, continue to play because of good friends, but dont come here and pretend you are special because you play a game like its supposed to be played. thats very much like chris rock says, dont brag about doing shit you SHOULD be doing, like "I PAY MY BILLS!" or "I FEED MY CHILDREN!"
"I PUSH BUTTONS AND CLICK A MOUSE!" good, thats what you are supposed to do, its not special.

its also rather ignorant to brag about botting for that matter. "I PUSH BUTTONS AND CLICK THE MOUSE... ON THE PORN SITE IM WATCHING WHILE MY GAME PLAYS ITSELF!"

moral of the story, do what you do for you and no one else. if you have to make a wall of text justifying your choice to activly participate in a game just so you can sleep, you have problems

I dont play the game any more.. i was just stating my opinion to why people bot... it seems like your trying to justify why being legit = best. All i see are people bragging that they are legit.

also... i didnt bot to look cool.. i wanted to have fun on the game.. which grinding 5hours+ per day is not fun to me... i got to cap by botting and had fun with the end game content.. got bored and now i dont play.


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 Post subject: Re: Why someone should be legit...from ones own experience.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:50 pm 
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believe me, most of the people that bot are not kids. They are adults.

Nope. 100% made up, pulled-out-of-your-ass bullshit.

Seems like all the legits are kids.. having hissy fits about people that bot

A botter dismissing legits who complain about cheating and ruining a game as "throwing hissy fits." Will wonders never cease?


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 Post subject: Re: Why someone should be legit...from ones own experience.
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A botter dismissing legits who complain about cheating and ruining a game as "throwing hissy fits." Will wonders never cease?

Indeed i am. Deal with it or quit the game.. don't cry about it for 5years and continue to play the game.


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 Post subject: Re: Why someone should be legit...from ones own experience.
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Apparently, where HotCheeks lives, dishwashers are against the rules.


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 Post subject: Re: Why someone should be legit...from ones own experience.
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Indeed i am. Deal with it or quit the game.. don't cry about it for 5years and continue to play the game.

Hmmm...I thought botters were all about NOT telling other people how to play. :palm:

This is just a bit too easy. I'll stop now.


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