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@Toasty i play on Iris since Beginning , i didnt care about Venus , i only saw How their Ego got Collapsed , We all Know the Reason and so Called "Legits" Were botting And they got Caught !!!

If you didnt play there.. you dont know anything about it.

A lot of us did play there. Those of us who did dont slag it off cause we know how well it went.

i don't know anything ? everyone who leveld up , you guys posted on SRF , every Unique Kill you guys Posted on SRF , every argue you posted on SRF , we know more then you realize .

Dont compare venus to azteca pls.
Venus was a total legit domination for over a year and a half. Azteca is no where near the same situation. Although Im very tempted to join and play with people with whom I spent countless hours online, I dont think Azteca will ever be a legit domination.
However, legits will have a very good time (and im somewhat jealous as I have no free time to play games anymore) with all the new stuff released after everyone quit Venus.
And if you cant understand that Azteca is just a bunch of people playing the game as its supposed to be played and having fun together, then you can keep QQing in you corner and making a fool outta yourself.


omg the anonymous is on SRF!
*runs in circles shaking head and screaming* NOT
If you didnt play on Venus son, you don't know.

P.S. Azteca guys, keep the updates comming. I've never liked this forum this much since venus!!!

It's easy bro. We're Farking famous because we where teh shit on Venus

The take home message, newcomers and old returning players come to Azteca

Well, nice story bro, but it's nothing like that in Azteca. Azteca isn't like 20 people who wanted to create a new legit movement, it were olschool people from kSro and Avalon who made the movement till what it is now. Our union is active as ****, as you can see on Rev6, and more and more people join.

Lulz have been provided. Especially this.

Why do people always complain about other legit movements?

If people leave their servers there must be a reason.

wtf? I just switched from iris to azteca...not a good thing to read right after i finish grind and im so close to 16

This thread shouldn't even affect you. You must have left Iris for reason, right?

This thread is all about complaining and whining. I'm not addressing the thread owner directly (don't want to offend anybody) but why even discuss this? Sure, I know that it's sad to see guild and union members leave your server to join another server. I do realize that it's not the best situation for the Iris players that a new server comes up like this and drags a lot of legit players.

That's no reason to diss the Azteca server and community though, is it? The community is going very well right now, and sure, a lot of people will leaven and some will start botting. But if you like the server, you'll probably stay anyway until you get bored.
And to that whole Venus thing. You say that leaving the game after playing for one and a half year is failing? Sure, they lost the fortress but if people get bored they should do something else, right? What you're saying (theoretically) is that I'm not allowed to stop doing something if I started doing it. If I stop, I'll fail.

Again, didn't mean to offend anybody so please don't come back with a crappy insult reply (CueLL where are you my friend? )

I did not intend to leave Iris but I quit because my internet connection got turned off so when I came back wanting to play I saw huge posts about Azteca, more then when Iris was advertising for a month..

Anyways went to Azteca because it's located in US (Iris might be 2, don't know), more players, new server and PLENTY of English speakers.

It could affect me because those people turned to botting for a reason right?

Well anyways I hope ur right, joined armathyx so lets see how it goes

Well, there is a very important difference between Iris and Azteca, at least for me. When people started on Iris i didn't even bother leaving KSRO and returning to ISRO, because i knew it would have been a waste and that it wouldn't last long enough. But when i heard, that the Avalon people came back to Iris and started playing on Azteca, i didn't hesitate and came back to ISRO, as i knew, that it would be a great legit movement. I didn't play on Venus before, but i have been in contact with several people, who used to play there. I knew several people, who were just waiting for the day, when the Avalon core people would return to ISRO. I actually thought it's not going to happen, because they left SRO and wouldn't return, but when they did, i realized, that this was probably the only chance to start another legit movement with a great impact. Quite a lot old and even new legits got attracted by the Avalon core members and the guilds were and are still getting filled with active people in no time.

At least i have no intention to hop servers, if there keep being enough people to make pts regularly. I would probably be one of the last ones to leave, if everyone else already left and it wouldn't really matter anyway. I would have had fun, while i played there, definitely more fun than i would have on KSRO currently, since there are only the same 4-6 people around my level.

Oh, and about the legit confederation on venus. You can't really call it a fail, that they played together and were so succesfull over such a long period. I don't think any other guild kept the fortress for such a long time, but that's not the most important thing. I guess they had a lot fun, while they played there. How can it be fail to enjoy your time for such a long period? In the end the core people just got bored and wanted to try something different (Aion). But they definitely enjoyed the game, while they played there, they just decided to do something else instead. What is wrong about it?

I really did not want to leave Iris. It's selfish of me to leave the few legits there who I consider friends, not everyone can buy a ton of silk, not everyone wants the same experience I do. Plus I know them better than many people on this forum or in the Azteca Avalon union.

The biggest plus and the main reason I switched - for now - is the ability to find a party, or a person running around Sam, or Hotan, with the union emblem proudly proclaiming "Legits are here!" I may have been one of the most vocal advocators on Iris for the legit movement, but it becomes increasingly difficult to find a party when over half your union leaves, quits, or turns to botting. And it was common to join a higher-level party on Iris only to find half of them were bots expecting me to just turn mine on and go afk. Really annoying, I don't really want to interact with a program running a character.

The other reason is the organization, the rules, the structure on Azteca. It provides balance, it keeps the union strong. Say what you want about Avalon or Venus. Kudos to them for being organized and strong. On Iris we are too haphazard, and while there are times when newbies join, the issue was there were not enough people to help answer questions, assess their builds, etc. It was hard to find time to play my own character, I'd have to play alts and help.

People on Azteca are experienced enough to know how to play their builds, how to structure a union, there are not a ton of newbies, and there are lots of people to help.

So for me at least, I'll stay as long as I can here. The lag is improved quite a bit, although there are still times when it gets bad. But if Avalon and most of the legits leave, there's less reason to stay on a server where the majority of people are AFK.

Your questions, my answers:

First; people do 'legit movements' countless of times and it dies off only to have some other legit movement to do the same. I've addressed the reason in my listed summary. With a detailed explanation to as followup. Iris started, went well but some people slowly drifted off to whatever reason - the difference between casual and dedicated. Dedicated players are whom were left with some new people joining every now and then.

The idea: To eliminate the reason to server hop. To use one server as the main stay. Play for fun, yeah? Azteca.

Second; Venus, people left. It died (even if a core of them left, it could had been doctored to stay up and welcome new players) because people continued to server hop. I'd say this is self-explanatory. People dived into the destructive cycle of movements and the potentiality to play with many players goes down - is a bad thing. "I don't want to leave, because I put too much work into my character," and etc., the reasons why people aren't willing to jump from one legit movement to another: the effect is less players in one community; i.e. many communities with small amounts. I wouldn't call it a failure but a model to look at; i.e. why did people create legit movements instead of going onto Venus?

The idea: To eliminate the reason to server hop. To use one server as the main stay. One community, large population. Azteca is a good model.

Third; answers stated above.

The idea: People come and go, but why have them spread out? Allow this server be the, 'if you want to party and enjoy non-botting in a community, come to Azteca.'

If Iris players had it their way, Iris would be the hub. Shit happens, Azteca is now the legitimate icon. Let's keep it that way, yeah? There is no real effort other than just clicking on the server name and creating a character on it. Activity will go up and it will go down. That is the nature of the game.

Shit. If I wanted to whine and moan, this thread would be different. If you guys can differentiate between an advisory and a complaint, I'd be happy.

I appreciate those who replied to the 'food for thought,' are read and noted.

people are who they are. you can say these things untill you are blue in the face. it will not cause anyone to do anything. all you can do is choose for yourself what you will do. this is why theres other problems in game. botting, gold buying, abuse of plvl, turks. its all about our own decisions. that is all there is too it. so unless you yourself intend to do what you are saying its absolutely pointless. just freaking deal with it and move on.

people are who they are. you can say these things untill you are blue in the face. it will not cause anyone to do anything. all you can do is choose for yourself what you will do. this is why theres other problems in game. botting, gold buying, abuse of plvl, turks. its all about our own decisions. that is all there is too it. so unless you yourself intend to do what you are saying its absolutely pointless. just freaking deal with it and move on.

Well, Cell. If there's one thing, that would be that humans communicate through language. Regardless if there's change or not, we do so for many reasons. Will this help? I don't know, but I enjoyed writing it up and hopefully people won't be so much as to fool themselves that server hopping and spreading thin is smart.

Give me a break on "dealing with it," this is a way to 'deal' with 'it'. Why don't you deal with it and not post; Get what I am saying? Yet you post to communicate.

Personal issue? PM me.

You take everything way to seriously.

First wave at gens
Second wave is rotating between pegs, bones and eagles
Third wave stays at pegs and farm
Fourth wave at penons
and there's a bunch of ppl starting at crabs, evil order soldier, ongs.

What i'm saying is there's A LOT of opportunities to have fun on SRO in Azteca. That's why ppl move here. There's a chance for them to enjoy the game.

Btw, have u seen a whole union of low lvls bullying and i really mean bullying the leader of the biggest bot union in the server? U wouldnt see that on other server and guess what, the bot quit and sold his char moments later. The view of low lvls doing knockback, knockdown skills to stop the higher lvl bot from doing anything is priceless. The cooperation, the unity we have right now is great. It does prove 1 thing, u dont have to be high lvls to have fun, all u need is a great community. And Azteca have that right now. That's why ppl moved here and i bet more ppl will come.

Do I? Or is it the assumption you came up about when reading my posts? It is hard to identify emotions in text. You take me seriously as being too seriously, no? Maybe you should get to know me better.

Please, if you got a personal message, PM me. Don't try to cause drama for the sake of entertainment on the boards which yearns for it so much.

Guardia, that's good to hear. A lot of credit goes to Avalon. But without Avalon, how would it be? Something to think about. But fortunately we got an entity like Avalon to make things easier, a lot easier. If only more people could step up to the plate.

As i was saying.

i dont know you, how can there be a personal issue?
how about i be the blunt one here since everyones pretty much beating around the bush. Iris doesnt matter, and neither do any legit movements. the only thing that held venus together was the federation. everyone answered to everyone. there is no federation here. or anywhere for that matter. so how about dont deal with it. how about, who the hell cares? hows that? the only thing keeping this thread alive is the anti avalon vs avalonians going on in the background of it.
if a genuine federation could be activated than this could work, but it probably wont. there are a lot of factors and players that venus had that just dont exist. Argonaut and overkill was one of the key factors in motivating and organizing the lowbies. i dont think were going to have that here.
everyone needs to just play and have fun, and stop expecting everyone else to meet their own standards (where to play and who to play with.)

Nah. No expectation, just advising. Learn from it, or well, keep repeating it.

On the subject of personal issues, when this thread lives not only because of animosity among pro' and anti', but because there's a "deal with it," or, "you're too serious," it then becomes a subject of me rather than what I am talking about. It becomes an argument fallacy - an ad hominem.

Argue my points - which I do see you are, Cell, but at the same time are using it against me, personally. At least that's how I feel.

I wish that too, people will play to have fun. The main goal of this post is to get people to play on one server and stick to it and Azteca is a good server to do so. It doesn't require Mil-simulation. It just requires motivation to want to play.

Little off topic but....legits who buy silk, you do know Joymax has a P2U bot(which will remain nameless)they created and operate....so every time you buy silk you support updates and management on THEIR bot. Just sayin lol.

Little more on topic...I remember at the 70 cap all the "supposed" legits in Avalon like Nightbloom and Fly etc. who accused so many of botting here on srf, were later proven to be closet BOTTERS themselves!!!(the worst kind) ahh good times...they even got me banned long ago

Kinda On topic...GL with your legitness!! Even the creaters of the game are against you. But there's always worse companies than Joymax!!!!!...like Ncsoft

I'm still confused but maybe it is on-topic to point out that the legit movement on Iris was started by a bunch of "defectors" from Venus.

holy shit take it easy, everyone is free to play wherever they want.
Btw i dont play on azteca but this topic is stupid seriously. Knock it off already -.-