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shoot. i had everything all typed up and articulated clearly in response to Stress. i hit submit and my internet breaks. well. here's another attempt but it'll be a quick one and not as detailed as the first. i'm hungry. again. this is directed at Stress only.

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first.

to this. i will simply repeat strangelove's words:


second.

i DO NOT NEED other things besides Christianity to work FOR ME. but. other things DO WORK for OTHER PEOPLE. that's why i say it's whatever. besides. as long as i don't believe that jews will go to "hell" because they don't believe in Jesus, then i must believe that nobody else will either. furthermore, if i believe that jesus is God, then it follows that by saying the only way to God is Jesus, then i'm really saying the only way to God is God, not necessarily Jesus. but that's on the theistic side.
again. i cannot read the heart of another man. contrary to the evangelical and proselytizing movement, Jesus doesn't instruct us to convert. only present the good news of the kingdom and for whoever accepts, make them disciples. take paul for example in acts 17:22-34, specifically 32-34. even Jesus condemns proselytizing (matthew 23:15)

third.
you are correct in saying that arguing that "the bible says so" is circuitous. whoever does that has failed to provide reason for what they believe (I peter 3:15). if you want to make such a claim then say "i choose to believe the bible is true. you don't have to. it is my personal conviction". but almost no christian does that. when asked why the bible is true, they continue to emphasize that it really is. this is just a symptom of failure to admit that it is possible for it to be false.

fourth.
my definition of being a Christian is unconventional. to me. being a Christian simply means you have chosen to believe that Jesus enjoyed perfect union with God and that is an example of what man can achieve. the things that Jesus teaches (which is synonymous with many other world religions) are things to live by and a man who tries to live by them in addition to striving to attain that perfect union with God/the divine is trying to be like Jesus, hence the term Christian as first used in Antioch.

finally. i must mention.
i have an agenda to change Christianity in two ways. the language and method of presentation. continuing to present it the same way it was presented in medieval times and before the englightenment or the concept of relativism doesn't work. spitting back what you've been told because you trust the words of the old guys doesn't work. christians must learn to think for themselves and REASON their faith as far as possible.

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i wasn't trying to speak so much. i prefer listening to people and learning from them. but.

@Gaigemasta.
last i checked (2 months ago after more than a year) the guild was dead.
Rukerr is still listed as the guild master but nobody in the guild is online or active. i never knew how to contact her outside of the game so couldn't do anything about transferring leadership to an active/semi-active player.

You could always contact Omea, she's the sister of Rukerr

yes. i know they're sisters. i was in the guild for quite some time. but as the case with rukerr. i never knew how to contact them outside of the game.
we had a forum at some point, but i do not recollect the url for it and i doubt they even check it any more if the url is still registered.

lol yah the forums were cute

lol athens was a fun server back in the day

looks like the OP got pwned by the game.
How about God appears in front of everyone, then do a magic trick to wipe away the bad stuff, that would be helpful.

http://www.tastyhuman.com/10-benefits-o ... deo-games/
Search it yourself: http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&pwst= ... me&spell=1

Science 1 : Religion 0

si amigo. it was. especially since even Rukerr was "noobish" putting nuke moves on a full strength glavier. it was fun that way though. just made whatever character you felt like making.
i was both Razz and Randy. what was your character? can't recollect the names of most of the members

and lol. at nuclearsilo. crudely put, that's what Christians believe (meaning me). and by bad stuff i mean past errors/sins. not world suffering. but you can't see "him" pulling the "trick".

and no doubt that many benefits can be derived from playing video games. that has nothing to do with religion vs science. only one with a clouded mind (yes, i took a shot at the OP) believes there is something sacrilegious in playing video games.

lol I was Gaige, full str glavier, with no nukes of course lol lol lol lol lol


but yah, TheForsaken was a decent guild

lol. yeah. as i was typing it. i remembered there being a Gaige. just didn't bother to mention it. plus i got distracted by food. high metabolism.

You're missing the part of Christianity where Man is completely corrupted, and can not resemble Jesus Christ through his own powers, and needs the divine intervention of God. Your picture shows man climbing up to God, when, in fact, the message of Christianity is that you don't need to climb to God yourself, because He came on earth for you.

You're making up your own 'Christianity'; you might as well not call it that. If all those things are missing from the picture of Christianity, you end up with a simple moral system, like every other religion has, and no real reason to call yourself a 'Christian' anymore.

Guys are you STUPID?!, This man tries to tell you what HE did wrong and what helped him out of it!.
I am Christian my self and i play Silkroad allso...
So can you guys not just shut up? (Sorry).. :S


All you guys start flame war, allso when he says that he isnt saying he will "Recrut you" like you guys are calling it!.

Now we can see how much Christanity need help!.
Becuse when there is talking about Hinduisme or Islam,
What are you doing then?, you are doing NOTHING!

I think all of you should go home, and talk with your Parents
and see how much they love you, and why they think all of u is some big "JOKES"...

That was the end if this THREAD, lets close it...

I personally think the OP was a troll trying to get this kind of thread started...


If my theory is correct, well played OP, well played.

Christians are too honest for that, sir.

wtf is wrong with this thread... hmmm...

Here it comes, religion has infested the General Discussion. Move to Offtopic plz.

Tell that to the catholic church and the pedos it's hiding.

oh btw Ch4otik, I was on a babel chat on facebook and my I was all like "LALALALA ALLAH IS A HOMOGAY WHO LIKES MAN PETER" and my cousin is like "ALLAH IS ALMIGHT, DEATH TO ALL WHO DON'T BOW BEFORE HIM" and then a bunch of turks came and wished death upon me and a bunch of Americans....

I was talking about Christians, not catholics. See what I did there?

Catholics are Christians. Same reason why other Christians call themselves Evangelical, Baptist, Methodist, and etc. If you were separating Catholics from your statement you would've said "every Christian but Catholics."

Unless the joke's on Catholics and they're not truly 'Christians' from your point-of-view

Exactly. In my book, someone who follows the Bible and the Bible only can call himself a Christian. Anyone else just has some random religion, which I would not call 'Christianity'.

The Bible doesn't tell us we need the Virgin Mary to pray for us. It tells us that Jesus is our high priest, who prays for us before God, not anyone else.

I'm not saying there is a single, correct, interpretation of the Bible. However, sometimes it is obvious, even to a non-scholar - in terms of the Bible - that there are some contradictions between religions that call themselves 'Christians', and the original Christian teaching of the Bible.

In the end, the bible, koran torah or whatever the fck all the religious texts are called, were all written by man, and thus not legit.

lol. no doubt this thread has gone off point. really should be in off topic lounge as suggested. but again. this response is directed at stress.
btw sir, since this has pretty much become a conversation between two people with one or two others joining in, i wouldn't mind taking this to personal messages instead of continuing on the thread.
but either way works.



see. that's the thing. i ABSOLUTELY believe that man CAN NOT climbe upu to God. He CAN NOT resemble Christ through his own powers and needs the divine intervention of GOD. GOD being the key here. To the Christian (meaning me), Jesus is a picture of the perfect divine image to strive for. Jesus is the visible God not in the sense of the controversial trinity doctrine but in the sense that the whole spirit of God was upon him constantly, making him inseparable from the divine or God "himself". What Christianity does, through the picture of Jesus, is pretty much remove the "locus of control" from man to that image of perfection that man strives to be unified with. instead of striving for the perfection, you let the perfect take hold of you and change you.

you are correct in saying that the message of Christianity is that you don't need to climb to God yourself.

what i am saying is that many religious adherents already understand this very basic and important point without the need to introduce the figure of Jesus Christ. And you are correct in saying that I should not really say I am Christian because the truth is that Jesus and GOD are greater than any religion can ever be. Sticking with the idea that Jesus is God personified through the coming of HIS spirit upon man, then it is logical to conclude that when Jesus says he is the way, the truth, and the life and no man comes to the father except through him, it does not mean that he himself is the way, the truth, and the life. It means that GOD, or the spirit of God and godliness, is the way, the truth, and the life. After all, who would Jesus be without God? just another man expounding his philosophy of life to the world.

Damn religion in GD

oh btw, Gaigemasta.
when such a response happens you can be assured that those are fanatical believers, and so. it is expected. same with any other fanatic. they'd kill if someone doesn't believe what they believe and attempt to "get rid" of them.
no non-fanatical muslim, and i know many, would respond like that. most certainly they'd take offense, but they wouldn't wish death upon anyone.

actually, nuclearsilo. budo is completely correct. humans have the free will and the mind to choose for themselves. i have not read the quran or any other "scripture" but on too many occasions the bible reveals man interacting with God to decide what happens. we do have free will for a reason.
good and evil has been laid out before us. "sin" and righteousness has been laid out before us. life and death has also been laid out before us. whether you believe that it comes from God or not, you cannot deny that those things are there. we choose.

free will is an illusion.
making a choice, and having a completely unrestricted will are 2 different things.

well then. since i'm not well versed on the freewill debate. i'm going to leave it at what cell said and say we have the freedom to choose.

btw cell. me likes ur duck. reminds me of good old cartoons.

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no where says good people can't have bad things happen to them