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 Post subject: Why Chinese Chars not "wanted" in 8/8 PTs
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:30 am 
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I always noticed how 8/8 pts require the usual clerics/bards/warriors for buffs, has Chinese chars become somewhat "irrelevant"? We are not wanted in PTs, its sad =(


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 Post subject: Re: Why Chinese Chars not "wanted" in 8/8 PTs
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:37 am 
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Because they offer nothing a euro pt needs. Only time I see them in pt's is when they cant find a wiz so they take a nuker or some other dps.


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chinese chars are awesome lurers


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 Post subject: Re: Why Chinese Chars not "wanted" in 8/8 PTs
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:15 am 
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1.because chinese have no buff that will benefit the party...selfbuff only,unless snowshield can be altered to work on pt or cast on other XD
2.chinese nuker damage is not up to wizard standard,longer kill time=danger to the pt
3.chinese Tank is only blader and blader knocking things down and thats a no,no for the party and also cannot provoke the enemy to them.
4.usually chinese char skip force tree, so better get a warrior with cleric so they can ress or heal in time of trouble instead of taking fire glaive.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:39 am 
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chinese chars are awesome lurers

but can't keep agro and wizards die .

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4.usually chinese char skip force tree, so better get a warrior with cleric so they can ress or heal in time of trouble instead of taking fire glaive.


even with force they don't take chinese.
shit, noone even accepts warlocks either, it's all about wizards, warriors and bards.
with each euro in the pt you get 10 (or was it 20)% more exp/sp from kills,
chinese don't have that and adding to their lack of buffs and damage the exp/h drops lower.

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Yep, all too true. But find yourself some friends and those friends will allow you in no matter what. The racism against Chinese is far too great


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Chinese Tank is only blader and blader knocking things down and thats a no,no for the party and also cannot provoke the enemy to them.

Warriors also knock down when they're 2h. But a blader doesn't have to use KD. He has plenty of other skills like chains(very useful and warlock-like skills) and stabs(bleed). He can use these skills back to back not using KD.

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I cant believe you guys are arguing over this.
Whatever Chinese does in party, there is role in European that can do it much better.

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I always laugh when I'm running out of the gate and all of the euros are piled up looking for a party. They're like "Where are you going?" and I'm like "Im going to solo BlTCH!"


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Not that hard to understand. Debuffs of bladers take too long compared to warlock. So yea.

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Nitro wrote:
I cant believe you guys are arguing over this.
Whatever Chinese does in party, there is role in European that can do it much better.


it will continue till the euro buffs are really weapon dependant and disappear after switching.
So legend x

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muyo wrote:
Chinese Tank is only blader and blader knocking things down and thats a no,no for the party and also cannot provoke the enemy to them.

Warriors also knock down when they're 2h. But a blader doesn't have to use KD. He has plenty of other skills like chains(very useful and warlock-like skills) and stabs(bleed). He can use these skills back to back not using KD.

Actually, a warrior in a pt should have 1h and shield anyway.


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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
Nitro wrote:
I cant believe you guys are arguing over this.
Whatever Chinese does in party, there is role in European that can do it much better.


it will continue till the euro buffs are really weapon dependant and disappear after switching.
So legend x


If RD, bless and heal cycle/orbit or even 2 of the 3 is cleric rod dependant and holy word gets only 50% reduction it would seriously undermine warrior/clerics :yay:

On topic: yeah but JM really made euro's to kill the chin race imo. Think about it, they grind in 8/8 pt's they get xp buff, same for 4/4 pt. their skills and buffs are very potent and to top it they have classes like rogue/wiz/lock with skills like invis/stealth/duplicate/illusion. I know the last point doesn't seem like much but those are "unique" skills that chinses do not and will never have...

Nowadays you are either very dedicated or have good friends or both to have a chinese and reach high levels without a bot(by high i mean 95+)

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so sad, chinese have no chance of bosshunting or even finishing forgotten world 3* and 4*.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:10 pm 
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Mariah wrote:
Hi guys,

I always noticed how 8/8 pts require the usual clerics/bards/warriors for buffs, has Chinese chars become somewhat "irrelevant"? We are not wanted in PTs, its sad =(


Because instead of just having a good time with friends (even if it means having a less efficient party) people are all bent out of shape about having the best most efficient party at all times.

I've seen parties sit in town forever waiting for that 8th player to join. I say if there are not 8 euros available, grab a few chinese and go have some fun. The party shouldn't have to be perfect.

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 Post subject: Re: Why Chinese Chars not "wanted" in 8/8 PTs
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muyo wrote:
1.because chinese have no buff that will benefit the party...selfbuff only,unless snowshield can be altered to work on pt or cast on other XD
2.chinese nuker damage is not up to wizard standard,longer kill time=danger to the pt
3.chinese Tank is only blader and blader knocking things down and thats a no,no for the party and also cannot provoke the enemy to them.
4.usually chinese char skip force tree, so better get a warrior with cleric so they can ress or heal in time of trouble instead of taking fire glaive.


mostly also cause iSRO people dont fkin know how to play the game :p
people that are starting on ksro now are astonished on how fast people lvl here and w/o any bots and w/o 24/7 playing time... chinese chars are awesome lurers and dont rely on warrior buffs to survive... since they arent aggro eaters clerics can easy re-aggro their mobs for fast lures and fast killing rate...
iSRO, being the ONLY version of silkroad that only bots cap and never killed Roc, users of it can only shut up and stop stating typs and guides


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Mariah wrote:
Hi guys,

I always noticed how 8/8 pts require the usual clerics/bards/warriors for buffs, has Chinese chars become somewhat "irrelevant"? We are not wanted in PTs, its sad =(


Because instead of just having a good time with friends (even if it means having a less efficient party) people are all bent out of shape about having the best most efficient party at all times.

I've seen parties sit in town forever waiting for that 8th player to join. I say if there are not 8 euros available, grab a few chinese and go have some fun. The party shouldn't have to be perfect.


+1

Throughout SRO I'm seeing this more and more. People are settling for having a few Chinese in their Party due to a shortage on certain Euro Builds at a specfic time. However, saying that, it is still fairly rare for this to happen.


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muyo wrote:
Chinese Tank is only blader and blader knocking things down and thats a no,no for the party and also cannot provoke the enemy to them.

Warriors also knock down when they're 2h. But a blader doesn't have to use KD. He has plenty of other skills like chains(very useful and warlock-like skills) and stabs(bleed). He can use these skills back to back not using KD.

Actually, a warrior in a pt should have 1h and shield anyway.

Yeah, i know. Some players just don't have the sp and they want to lvl fast solo too.

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No SP is needed, just use taunt, and normal attack, its enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Chinese Chars not "wanted" in 8/8 PTs
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mostly also cause iSRO people dont fkin know how to play the game :p
people that are starting on ksro now are astonished on how fast people lvl here and w/o any bots and w/o 24/7 playing time... chinese chars are awesome lurers and dont rely on warrior buffs to survive... since they arent aggro eaters clerics can easy re-aggro their mobs for fast lures and fast killing rate...
iSRO, being the ONLY version of silkroad that only bots cap and never killed Roc, users of it can only shut up and stop stating typs and guides


You realize kSRO has far lower rates than iSRO?
As I recall, our 89 > 90 is their 104 > 105.
Something in those ranges

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mostly also cause iSRO people dont fkin know how to play the game :p
people that are starting on ksro now are astonished on how fast people lvl here and w/o any bots and w/o 24/7 playing time... chinese chars are awesome lurers and dont rely on warrior buffs to survive... since they arent aggro eaters clerics can easy re-aggro their mobs for fast lures and fast killing rate...
iSRO, being the ONLY version of silkroad that only bots cap and never killed Roc, users of it can only shut up and stop stating typs and guides


You realize kSRO has far lower rates than iSRO?
As I recall, our 89 > 90 is their 104 > 105.
Something in those ranges


hmm no
cSRO maybe but kSRO has same requirements of iSRO


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mostly also cause iSRO people dont fkin know how to play the game :p
people that are starting on ksro now are astonished on how fast people lvl here and w/o any bots and w/o 24/7 playing time... chinese chars are awesome lurers and dont rely on warrior buffs to survive... since they arent aggro eaters clerics can easy re-aggro their mobs for fast lures and fast killing rate...
iSRO, being the ONLY version of silkroad that only bots cap and never killed Roc, users of it can only shut up and stop stating typs and guides


You realize kSRO has far lower rates than iSRO?
As I recall, our 89 > 90 is their 104 > 105.
Something in those ranges


hmm no
cSRO maybe but kSRO has same requirements of iSRO


hmm no

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Johri wrote:
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Nitro wrote:
You realize kSRO has far lower rates than iSRO?
As I recall, our 89 > 90 is their 104 > 105.
Something in those ranges


hmm no
cSRO maybe but kSRO has same requirements of iSRO


hmm no


hmm yes :dope:


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JustToCallYou wrote:
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cSRO maybe but kSRO has same requirements of iSRO


hmm no


hmm yes :dope:


kSRO does not have same requirements as iSRO, lol.

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Because euros are made for the type of person that needs to feel loked after or else he's gonna toss his computer out the window.

Euro = bisexuall groupsex, it's kinda gay but it great!

China = regular sex, it's hetero but often not as good.

Euros ARE gay.

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Because euros are made for the type of person that needs to feel loked after or else he's gonna toss his computer out the window.

Euro = bisexuall groupsex, it's kinda gay but it great!

China = regular sex, it's hetero but often not as good.

Euros ARE gay.


and when euros party too hard and die, they are resurrected to get banged as dark zombyish pieces of flesh.
So euros are bisexual, gangbanging necrophiliacs. Makes sense.

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From my experience, when you add a chinese player, people in the party start dying unnecessarily. This is usually due to the chinese player attacking random things and aggroing everything because they don't understand how to party.

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From my experience, when you add a chinese player, people in the party start dying unnecessarily. This is usually due to the chinese player attacking random things and aggroing everything because they don't understand how to party.

The question was about characters, not ppl playing them. :D It's gotta be a complete idiot who doesn't attack what the pt is attacking.

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