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 Post subject: Re: Grinding for three years or...
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:50 pm 
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i was talking to you, but your not the only one who is going to read it. other people can still learn something from the post, but yes it was directed at you


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Oh and I love you people who are all like, "It's not an addiction! I moderate how much I game! I have a life! blah blah blah". Okay, if that's really true, then that would mean you've never played SRO or any other MMORPG when you could have hung out with your real friends, girlfriend, or family. Ever.

I'll be the first to admit I've done that above. And I know you all have too. So don't act all self-righteous.

Just don't.

That would be true if the criterion for time management is based on your own personal standard to what is or isn't wasted time, but it isn't, so I'm inclined to ask you to take your own advice on the dangers of self-righteousness. How different individuals define their own priorities and time is the standard to that person's own criterion by which they determine wasted time or time spent wisely. To say that someone who didn't pick physical social interaction over virtual interaction is wasting their time is a little disingenuous. Not to mention, measuring someone's time management or non-addictive nature based on how much they socialize seems like a non-sequitur.

To your other point, I'm pretty sure the forum is not that anti-religious at all from my experience. In fact, it may be just the opposite but the wide majority are not very vocal at all, or may simply be apathetic. The negative commentary is mostly due to the fact that the OP decided to proselytize right after essentially telling everyone to get off their lazy ass and praise Jesus for salvation because they're all dirty sinners (I'm paraphrasing here). I have to agree on your last point though: 5-minute YouTube videos can't change entire lifetimes of religious indoctrination.


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That would be true if the criterion for time management is based on your own personal standard to what is or isn't wasted time, but it isn't, so I'm inclined to ask you to take your own advice on the dangers of self-righteousness. How different individuals define their own priorities and time is the standard to that person's own criterion by which they determine wasted time or time spent wisely. To say that someone who didn't pick physical social interaction over virtual interaction is wasting their time is a little disingenuous. Not to mention, measuring someone's time management or non-addictive nature based on how much they socialize seems like a non-sequitur.

To your other point, I'm pretty sure the forum is not that anti-religious at all from my experience. In fact, it may be just the opposite but the wide majority are not very vocal at all, or may simply be apathetic. The negative commentary is mostly due to the fact that the OP decided to proselytize right after essentially telling everyone to get off their lazy ass and praise Jesus for salvation because they're all dirty sinners (I'm paraphrasing here). I have to agree on your last point though: 5-minute YouTube videos can't change entire lifetimes of religious indoctrination.

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this game has taken me from los angeles to south korea two times all expenses paid...joymax customer for life here..

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Playing a video game is a sin.... I guess i have sinned for hours at a time damn call of duty

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Balance is the solution..a personally defined balance....I've been in the same state once .....wishing I didn't waste so much time playing this game...Then I realized I was using/relying on society's definition of what time wasting is....

I was using society as a benchmark for what I should and should not be doing and it was making me (like so many others) upset and angry. I said no f*cking more...I am the captain of my ship...f*ck everyone else...I'll walk to my own beat.....I'll define what regret is for me.


I wont turn to god...I'm agnostic...I will turn to myself and assess my own actions and come up with my own solutions... Playing games or doing anything too much isn't the "SIN"....The problem is yourself....Find a way to fix you're broken ass and stop talking about what christ can do for you....In case you didn't realize.....your christ have already given you a brain to figure out what you need to be doing. Not using it to do so is the real sin..

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I see some walls of text, quotes of the walls and i believe some cheap "make fun of" videos...cry thread?

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 Post subject: Re: Grinding for three years or...
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I wanted to read it but i just couldnt do it.


Same here. I skimmed it, a little.

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Balance is the solution..a personally defined balance....I've been in the same state once .....wishing I didn't waste so much time playing this game...Then I realized I was using/relying on society's definition of what time wasting is....

I was using society as a benchmark for what I should and should not be doing and it was making me (like so many others) upset and angry. I said no f*cking more...I am the captain of my ship...f*ck everyone else...I'll walk to my own beat.....I'll define what regret is for me.


I wont turn to god...I'm agnostic...I will turn to myself and assess my own actions and come up with my own solutions... Playing games or doing anything too much isn't the "SIN"....The problem is yourself....Find a way to fix you're broken ass and stop talking about what christ can do for you....In case you didn't realize.....your christ have already given you a brain to figure out what you need to be doing. Not using it to do so is the real sin..


if all people lived by the first two paragraphs, we'd not have these threads.
People should reflect on their mistakes and learn from them so this might just be a blog entry.

if they all lived by the last paragraph, we'd probably be exploring outerspace as well.

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tl;dr what thread about?

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I'm triing to fix my lost time, triing to do the things what I missed :
-Making friendship You can make friends in an MMORPG
-Learning languages(very important ! ) important, depending on what you want to do with your life. You don't HAVE to be multi-lingual.
-Learning things what I like (for me its programming for example) What if you like video games? Play an MMORPG to learn more about video games. Like leading teams of people? Play an MMORPG and be a guild/union leader. Lead a team with zero _real_ resources
-Doing things what I like to do(here I mean contructive things, hobbies, not time wasters) There should be room in your life for leisure, even if it can be considered 'time wasters'
But it is sooo much hard, and full of suffering. You learn like 8 hours a day + help to your family + eat + travel, and you still wanna do the things what I listed above. Sometimes I wish that a day would be 25-26 hours long.


There's nothing wrong with playing an MMORPG, an FPS, other video game, playing with radio control cars in a parking lot, hiking through the woods, or any other leisure activity, as long as you do it in moderation. Take care of the things in life that matter most first, but also take some time to relax and enjoy some "me time" too.

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Even in this situation, I thank God that I've put my faith in Jesus, and realised my self-destructing life. I cannot even imagine how terible would have my life become, if I realise this to late.


It's great that you found God and all. I can respect that. However, you don't need God to tell you if you are neglecting your work or life in order to spend way too much time on an MMORPG.

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Most of you play with this game, because you have nothing to life for. The same was with me. You know, God created us to be in a relationship with him, and you cannot dodge this. Lot's of rich,famous and successful people realised that nothing can fill this gap in their life. You can level up, over and over, and kill more and more uniques. But when you reached your goal, you will feel like "okay, now what?", like I did.


I think most people play this game because they have some free time in between school, work, activities with friends, soccer practice... Not everyone lets the game control their lives. You can play baseball all you want, hitting the ball, running around the bases, scoring more and more runs. But when you reach your goal, you will feel like "okay, now what?"... well no, you should feel like "that was fun. now let's do it again or do something else." It's the journey that matters, not the end result.

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You think real life is good? Why it is good? Because it is filled with good and wonderful people. You know what? MMORPGS are exactly filled with the same good and wonderful people. But here, because they are behind anonimity, they can be more good than they would be in real life, making MMORPGs BETTER than real life...


Life is filled with good and bad people. Plenty of people are perfectly capable of playing a game like this without becoming evil or letting the game take control of their lives.

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 Post subject: Re: Grinding for three years or...
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tl;dr what thread about?

basically what the guy was saying is were all sinners because we spend time on the computer, we have no friends or life because of it, everyone who plays mmorpg's are bad/evil, and if we quit we strengthen our relationship with god, and if we dont were going to burn it hell because were evil.

but most of the first half was him talking about how god helped him get through life and understand things


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Sir_Edward wrote:
DinoNuggets wrote:
tl;dr what thread about?

basically what the guy was saying is were all sinners because we spend time on the computer, we have no friends or life because of it, everyone who plays mmorpg's are bad/evil, and if we quit we strengthen our relationship with god, and if we dont were going to burn it hell because were evil.

but most of the first half was him talking about how god helped him get through life and understand things

ROFL xD inviting religion into sro
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Sir_Edward wrote:
DinoNuggets wrote:
tl;dr what thread about?

basically what the guy was saying is were all sinners because we spend time on the computer, we have no friends or life because of it, everyone who plays mmorpg's are bad/evil, and if we quit we strengthen our relationship with god, and if we dont were going to burn it hell because were evil.

but most of the first half was him talking about how god helped him get through life and understand things

ROFL xD inviting religion into gaming
one of the dumbest thing you can possibly do


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I had found this to be so naively amusing that I had consequentially tumbled onto the floor, at which time I proceeded to roll around a bit whilst splitting one's sides. Following such event I had been whipped with much joy that my eyes had been rendered shut with smiles in a toothy grin. It had became clear that the cross bringing of religion with the playing of virtual games was quite a comedy. That, such an act may as well be one of the most, and with great earnest, simple-minded undertaking that one's person could god willingly do.


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WARNING. MINI-RANT AHEAD.

kori0129. i like your intentions, but. your methods of spreading the 'good news' by assuming too many things about other people and speaking in the "old language" without engaging in meaningful intellectual discussions by assuming everyone is "dumb" and ignorant of living in a supposed delusion/trap is one of the things i intend to change in this "church" thing. writing and internet can only do so much. speak to a real life human being and always admit whenever you don't know something so you can find out and grow from it. DON'T simply take in what they (meaning the church) tells you. read the word yourself and seek to truly understand it. come to your own convictions with the help of the Holy Spirit and never judge another simply because their interpretation is different. my motto: as long as it's not anti-God, it's whatever.
that is all.

oh and. word of advice. never start with Jesus. start with God. i also suggest you "update" your perspective of other religions like the Jews or Muslim . Even now (meaning like 50 years ago and word hasn't gotten around to the "layman" yet), the Roman Catholic has realized it's follies in disregarding the truth of other godly religions.

crap. never mind. i don't want to get into this. just know that if you keep presenting Christianity in the exact same fashion it was presented during medieval times, before the renaissance, and before relativism, you're wasting your time.

that is all. oh wait. in case you're deluded. playing an mmorpg is not a "sin". addiction is a human problem that can be helped by God but not necessarily.

and final note. only a fool says IN HIS HEART (not head or mouth) that there is no God. no man knows another man's heart. so. there.
and. i second prometheus's post.

i demand this topic be closed :-P

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SPOIL: God doesnt exist except in your mind :/


:palm: people get insulted easily by that... just dont even bring up "god" in any forum or game it usually turns into :slap: back and forth

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I had found this to be so naively amusing that I had consequentially tumbled onto the floor, at which time I proceeded to roll around a bit whilst splitting one's sides. Following such event I had been whipped with much joy that my eyes had been rendered shut with smiles in a toothy grin. It had became clear that the cross bringing of religion with the playing of virtual games was quite a comedy. That, such an act may as well be one of the most, and with great earnest, simple-minded undertaking that one's person could god willingly do.


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DinoNuggets wrote:
orapic wrote:
SPOIL: God doesnt exist except in your mind :/


:palm: people get insulted easily by that... just dont even bring up "god" in any forum or game it usually turns into :slap: back and forth

5 god words in his post...
Cmon there is better places to talk about that....


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Its all about balance in life. If you are a SRO player that does not mean you life is wasted. You live and you laugh, and you move on.


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I've been there, said all of those things - I even made statements very similar to your own -, and done all of those things too.

I even promised to myself I wouldn't spend any useless time in front of the computer any more. Of course, I thought it was a sin to waste time in front of the computer when reading the Bible was so much more productive.

I really hope you do end up leading a life of victory in the faith in Jesus Christ, if that is what you wish. I, for one, didn't. Let all of the water boil out, then look inside the pot and see what's left. After all of the emotions of finally finding hope for what now seems to be a sinful, miserable life fade away, you will end up in quite a strange place.


I won't tell you more now. Just one question you should ask yourself: How can you tell the difference between the 'Work of the Holy Spirit' and a bundle of strong emotions? Don't answer: 'You can just tell', because that's what you can say about any emotion.

Do not PM me or try to contact me in any way, I will not answer. Best wishes.

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Oh and I love you people who are all like, "It's not an addiction! I moderate how much I game! I have a life! blah blah blah". Okay, if that's really true, then that would mean you've never played SRO or any other MMORPG when you could have hung out with your real friends, girlfriend, or family. Ever.

I'll be the first to admit I've done that above. And I know you all have too. So don't act all self-righteous.

Just don't.

That would be true if the criterion for time management is based on your own personal standard to what is or isn't wasted time, but it isn't, so I'm inclined to ask you to take your own advice on the dangers of self-righteousness. How different individuals define their own priorities and time is the standard to that person's own criterion by which they determine wasted time or time spent wisely. To say that someone who didn't pick physical social interaction over virtual interaction is wasting their time is a little disingenuous. Not to mention, measuring someone's time management or non-addictive nature based on how much they socialize seems like a non-sequitur.

To your other point, I'm pretty sure the forum is not that anti-religious at all from my experience. In fact, it may be just the opposite but the wide majority are not very vocal at all, or may simply be apathetic. The negative commentary is mostly due to the fact that the OP decided to proselytize right after essentially telling everyone to get off their lazy ass and praise Jesus for salvation because they're all dirty sinners (I'm paraphrasing here). I have to agree on your last point though: 5-minute YouTube videos can't change entire lifetimes of religious indoctrination.



Once again, you've got it right.

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