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 Post subject: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:51 am 
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Just finished pvping one, 106+ nuker with nova sword vs me, lvl 105 with a +4 - +5 101 set.

She had all the euro buffs, phy, mag def, int str, holy spell from a 105 cleric.

I have 20k hp. With all that, she hits me for 15k without snow and 6k with snow...

Never realized how fail that build was. Dmg is so low... 100 wiz does more than that with LT...

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:00 am 
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Goseki wrote:
Just finished pvping one,

i thought i'd stop reading here

but then

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106+ nuker with nova sword vs me, lvl 105 with a +4 - +5 101 set.

She had all the euro buffs, phy, mag def, int str, holy spell from a 105 cleric.

I have 20k hp. With all that, she hits me for 15k without snow and 6k with snow...

Never realized how fail that build was. Dmg is so low... 100 wiz does more than that with LT...

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erm screenies pl0x,
because i was 1hitting lvl 85 monsters with my lvl 80 f.force one and the sword was +5

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:45 am 
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Well not so much pvp as me just walk around. Not much point pvping someone who is higher lvl than you and has his own personal cleric healing him. I just walked around with snow shield on and lol'd.

If I see him outside smk again, i'll piss him off and try to take a screenshot. I got bored of getting nuked every time i left safe zone for shit dmg.

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
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k, makes sense lol

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
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This whole thread smells fishy... sounds more like you're angry at them...

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:18 pm 
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Goseki wrote:
Just finished pvping one, 106+ nuker with nova sword vs me, lvl 105 with a +4 - +5 101 set.

She had all the euro buffs, phy, mag def, int str, holy spell from a 105 cleric.

I have 20k hp. With all that, she hits me for 15k without snow and 6k with snow...

Never realized how fail that build was. Dmg is so low... 100 wiz does more than that with LT...


How about you? Don't you have Euro buffs when he/she did that? Screenshot might have proven it. Lol..

Nevertheless, who won anyway?


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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:14 pm 
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Goseki wrote:
Just finished pvping one, 106+ nuker with nova sword vs me, lvl 105 with a +4 - +5 101 set.

She had all the euro buffs, phy, mag def, int str, holy spell from a 105 cleric.

I have 20k hp. With all that, she hits me for 15k without snow and 6k with snow...

Never realized how fail that build was. Dmg is so low... 100 wiz does more than that with LT...

not to troll you or something, but how in god's name do you know it's an SHE?

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
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Female char probably. I'm wondering too what the state of your buffs were, maybe he/she had a clean set but nova wep lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
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I'd say she/he won. Couldn't really hit hard enough on her and couldn't debuff either. With snow I couldn't be killed since the only attacks she had was nuke nuke nuke.

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
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ints are so weak this cap :/

this cap archers + warriors pretty much overwhelm anyone.

im still waiting for bladers to hit 110 and see how they cope vs other 110's


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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
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But you can't discount Glaivers, they have badass damage with their Ghost Spear - Emperor. Though they lacked the ability to debuff enemies with skills unlike Bladers.

But I agree. STR's will be owning this cap probably.


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Level 105 and still don't know when force users show their true colors.

Obviously it's going to suck at lvl "106+". He's still with Degree 10 debuffs. I had a force glaiver at cap 100, when it was lvl 99 it still lost to people who were level 100 with +5 weapons because force sub that isn't up to the level with the degree you're fighting against is useless. Yes, you may get a few debuffs in, yes you might win.. Doesn't take away the fact that force users are only good when their force sub is capped.


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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
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That's why with Chinese Force, it should be maxed at 110.

Better play a Euro Warlock instead.


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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
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Level 105 and still don't know when force users show their true colors.

Obviously it's going to suck at lvl "106+". He's still with Degree 10 debuffs. I had a force glaiver at cap 100, when it was lvl 99 it still lost to people who were level 100 with +5 weapons because force sub that isn't up to the level with the degree you're fighting against is useless. Yes, you may get a few debuffs in, yes you might win.. Doesn't take away the fact that force users are only good when their force sub is capped.


Yeah uhm sorry to burst your bubble but he's talking about a pure force (fire/ice/light) nuker, not a nuker with the force mastery. I think atleast o.O

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
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abiiiiii wrote:
Level 105 and still don't know when force users show their true colors.

Obviously it's going to suck at lvl "106+". He's still with Degree 10 debuffs. I had a force glaiver at cap 100, when it was lvl 99 it still lost to people who were level 100 with +5 weapons because force sub that isn't up to the level with the degree you're fighting against is useless. Yes, you may get a few debuffs in, yes you might win.. Doesn't take away the fact that force users are only good when their force sub is capped.


I think that Goseki means of Pure Force Nukers is that has mastery of Cold/Light/Fire

Correct me If im wrong.

I don't think its not weak at all, cuz had a friend who is lv105 now also and he hits harder than wizards does without turnover, only he just cast nukes a little bit slower.

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Problem is that all you can do is nuke and then die when your snow is out.

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Shit Pure Force Nukers suck...
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jyushinshuu wrote:
abiiiiii wrote:
Level 105 and still don't know when force users show their true colors.

Obviously it's going to suck at lvl "106+". He's still with Degree 10 debuffs. I had a force glaiver at cap 100, when it was lvl 99 it still lost to people who were level 100 with +5 weapons because force sub that isn't up to the level with the degree you're fighting against is useless. Yes, you may get a few debuffs in, yes you might win.. Doesn't take away the fact that force users are only good when their force sub is capped.


I think that Goseki means of Pure Force Nukers is that has mastery of Cold/Light/Fire

Correct me If im wrong.

I don't think its not weak at all, cuz had a friend who is lv105 now also and he hits harder than wizards does without turnover, only he just cast nukes a little bit slower.


Lol.. are they on the same level? If they have the same weapon degree and plus, that can't be happening. Or maybe the Wizard used a lower nuke skill and your friend did the biggest nuke he/she had.


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yes probably same weapon with the wizard. lightning has 19% mag damage increase, with fire nukers hellfire and desintegrate. chinese pure nukers does a lot of damage w/o pots delay.

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