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 Post subject: Wizard or Rouge?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:30 am 
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Hi, im new at the forums, currently playing on Tibet with a Wizard/ClericLvl 52. I like my build pretty much but i find it boring sometimes killing 1 hit everting i face. I choose that build just because its fun, i can do some plvl later to earn some money... But ive been thinkin about starting a rouge, reasons? : 1) Die less, 2) Deals great damage compared to full str builds, and i THINK i can do some plvl later. But i need some advice since im new @ this PLVLing stuff... so wich ones better over all? (Plvling, Grindin, PvP, PvE) Wich one be more Usefull/Fun?


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 Post subject: Re: Wizard or Rouge?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:31 am 
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playing in a 8 man party=fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard or Rouge?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:45 am 
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ninshad wrote:
playing in a 8 man party=fun.

dont just answer with a shit thing like that rouges are more fun i think coz yeah u dye less not as angry and having crits makes it fun really big crits..


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 Post subject: Re: Wizard or Rouge?
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Just a few pro's and cons.

Wizard:

Pro's
1.More fun skills,huge variety of nukes.
2.Best Unique Hunter(w/party 95+)which is almost always at higher lvls.
3.Fastest solo lvlver with bard sub.
4.Always preffered as plvler over a rogue.
5.Almost always wanted in partys.

Con's
1.Not really good in solo pvp.
2.Fragile in solo pve.
3.Expensive prices for staffs/robe.

Rogue.

Pro's.
1.Decent pvper(not great due to stealth pk2)
2.Good in solo pve(slower then wiz).
3.Cheap prizes in general compared to wiz weap/gear.

Cons.
1.Semi-Good at plvl if no competetion with wizard.
2.NOT preffered or liked in high lvl partys/unique raids(huge turn off)
3.Skills get boring and one-toned.
4.Cap Pvp will give u the feeling the build is way weaker compared to a warrior.

There are more offcourse,I just preffered to name a few.
To add my opinion,don't go rogue,u will regret it after time.


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 Post subject: Re: Wizard or Rouge?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:48 pm 
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Thank you guys, specially lucid, your post help“d me a LOT, might stick with my wizard then. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Wizard or Rouge?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:50 pm 
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make an int wizard rogue xD

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard or Rouge?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:14 pm 
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make a rouge Xbow only, lvl really fast, then switch to warrior!

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard or Rouge?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:22 pm 
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lucid4life wrote:
Just a few pro's and cons.

Wizard:

Pro's
1.More fun skills,huge variety of nukes. (imo the nukes get boring}
2.Best Unique Hunter(w/party 95+)which is almost always at higher lvls.
3.Fastest solo lvlver with bard sub.
4.Always preffered as plvler over a rogue.
5.Almost always wanted in partys.

Con's
1.Not really good in solo pvp.
2.Fragile in solo pve.
3.Expensive prices for staffs/robe.

Rogue.

Pro's.
1.A well equipped and well played Dagger/XBow can kill ANY build of the same level and set.
2.Good in solo pve(slower then wiz).
3.Cheap prizes in general compared to wiz weap/gear.
4.If you want to play an 'average' build, then just get XBow/Cleric. If you want to stand out, and win 90% of the people your level in PvP, get Daggers too.

Cons.
1.Semi-Good at plvl if no competetion with wizard.
2.NOT preffered or liked in high lvl partys/unique raids(huge turn off)
3.Skills get boring and one-toned unless you have both Daggers and XBow.
4.Cap Pvp will give u the feeling the build is way weaker compared to a warrior. An XBow/Dagger/Cleric with LA can easily draw with any Warrior with the same set.
5.Dagger/XBow takes a lot of SP.

There are more offcourse,I just preffered to name a few.
To add my opinion,don't go rogue,u will regret it after time.


This is coming from someone who had a 90 Wiz/Cleric at 90 cap, and currently has a 100 XBow/Dagger/Cleric at the current cap. I've tried almost every build out there at a high level, and none of them are as much fun as the Rogue. Hitting 50k on other capped players with Daggers + DD never gets boring, and if the going gets tough, just switch to Cleric Rod + Shield and you can tank up to 3 people with the LA passives and heals, so not only can it do amazing damage, but its defense is not bad either.

Dagger/XBow/Cleric is so underestimated, mainly because there are not many of them, and those that do have them don't know how to play properly. Here's a pretty nice vid of how to PvP properly, bare in mind he doesn't have Premium or DS, hence why he's using Bless in situations he wouldn't necessarily need too if he had them.

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard or Rouge?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:41 pm 
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Ima try a rouge one of this days... Thanks for replyin.


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 Post subject: Re: Wizard or Rouge?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:49 pm 
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Puma60 wrote:
lucid4life wrote:
Just a few pro's and cons.

Wizard:

Pro's
1.More fun skills,huge variety of nukes. (imo the nukes get boring}
2.Best Unique Hunter(w/party 95+)which is almost always at higher lvls.
3.Fastest solo lvlver with bard sub.
4.Always preffered as plvler over a rogue.
5.Almost always wanted in partys.

Con's
1.Not really good in solo pvp.
2.Fragile in solo pve.
3.Expensive prices for staffs/robe.

Rogue.

Pro's.
1.A well equipped and well played Dagger/XBow can kill ANY build of the same level and set.
2.Good in solo pve(slower then wiz).
3.Cheap prizes in general compared to wiz weap/gear.
4.If you want to play an 'average' build, then just get XBow/Cleric. If you want to stand out, and win 90% of the people your level in PvP, get Daggers too.

Cons.
1.Semi-Good at plvl if no competetion with wizard.
2.NOT preffered or liked in high lvl partys/unique raids(huge turn off)
3.Skills get boring and one-toned unless you have both Daggers and XBow.
4.Cap Pvp will give u the feeling the build is way weaker compared to a warrior. An XBow/Dagger/Cleric with LA can easily draw with any Warrior with the same set.
5.Dagger/XBow takes a lot of SP.

There are more offcourse,I just preffered to name a few.
To add my opinion,don't go rogue,u will regret it after time.


This is coming from someone who had a 90 Wiz/Cleric at 90 cap, and currently has a 100 XBow/Dagger/Cleric at the current cap. I've tried almost every build out there at a high level, and none of them are as much fun as the Rogue. Hitting 50k on other capped players with Daggers + DD never gets boring, and if the going gets tough, just switch to Cleric Rod + Shield and you can tank up to 3 people with the LA passives and heals, so not only can it do amazing damage, but its defense is not bad either.

Dagger/XBow/Cleric is so underestimated, mainly because there are not many of them, and those that do have them don't know how to play properly. Here's a pretty nice vid of how to PvP properly, bare in mind he doesn't have Premium or DS, hence why he's using Bless in situations he wouldn't necessarily need too if he had them.



(example)
I had a lvl 100 Rogue and a lvl 100 Warrior.
My guildie has a lvl 90+5 Seal of Sun Xbow and more then decent daggers.
Vs my Char with a regular +5 1H(warrior) he lost 20/20 times.(yes we did do 20 matches)

Vs another Rogue lvl 100 has 98+6 Xbow/daggers,also lost a good 5/5 times.

On My Rogue I had both Daggers and Xbow skills maxed,I can assure u ,they got boring as hell over time compared to when I tried out other builds.Also with a 98+7 Xbow,and 98+7 dagger I almost never won vs a warrior who smartly combines skins +bless.

U say it can win any build,I beg to differ which is why I got rid of the char to start with.There's nothing that speaks like experience.


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