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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:06 pm 
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Honestly, this sounds good, but you should make two sets of parties: one for European timezones, one for USA, and try to make sure you get on the same time each day. Maybe even have a second set of people. I know that kind of defeats the purpose of the fast leveling, but it's not looking like you're going to have a lot of people available for party play.

I read that original guide and I think it worked ideally because there was no language barrier, they were all dedicated, and set goals to play each night, and all played together. It's not looking as easy this time.

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yeah, comon europeans.. join in with the fun!:D

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I'm joining the server, let's see if I can join your constant parties.
I wanna join the guild for sure :)

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hey marijn what is your in game name? cuz i c ur online now and your from holland.. thats a + for me^^

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do you think we can start either wednesday, or saturday? when we can get everything set up?

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You guys should have a race. 1-80 Euro/Chinese level war O.O


That would be awesome

OT: I'll go for warlock/cleric if you guys still need it, I played this build in tsro soo i'm pretty good at it, Idk how my parents will react about me going on skype though :soosad:

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
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To everyone saying "Rogues"

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No.

Party=

2 warrior, 1 cleric, 1 bard, 3 wizard, 1 lock
2 warrior, 1 cleric, 1 bard, 4 wizard
2 warrior, 1 cleric, 2 bard, 3 wizard
1 warrior, 1 cleric, 1 bard, 3 wizard, 1 lock
1 warrior, 1 cleric, 2 bard, 4 wizard

Notice as I go down, it goes from mobs 10-11 levels higher and then once the 2 warrior setups are out run, it goes to mobs 4-5 levels higher.

Rogues are useless, even for luring, they brag "they can't keep up with me" because "well, theres no tank protecting ints" or "you cant hold aggro, so the mobs go on ints and 1 tank" or the fact that, again, rogues are useless for "GOOD" parties.

I cannot stress that enough.

Seriously. Rogues can't told aggro, they cant tank, they dont do good DPS, they dont AOE, they dont do DOT or Status.

It's a botters char for the European race. NOT a party oriented class.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
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SnowShael wrote:
To everyone saying "Rogues"

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No.

Party=

2 warrior, 1 cleric, 1 bard, 3 wizard, 1 lock
2 warrior, 1 cleric, 1 bard, 4 wizard
2 warrior, 1 cleric, 2 bard, 3 wizard
1 warrior, 1 cleric, 1 bard, 3 wizard, 1 lock
1 warrior, 1 cleric, 2 bard, 4 wizard

Notice as I go down, it goes from mobs 10-11 levels higher and then once the 2 warrior setups are out run, it goes to mobs 4-5 levels higher.

Rogues are useless, even for luring, they brag "they can't keep up with me" because "well, theres no tank protecting ints" or "you cant hold aggro, so the mobs go on ints and 1 tank" or the fact that, again, rogues are useless for "GOOD" parties.

I cannot stress that enough.

Seriously. Rogues can't told aggro, they cant tank, they dont do good DPS, they dont AOE, they dont do DOT or Status.

It's a botters char for the European race. NOT a party oriented class.

Your so WRONG
Get a str cleric 2 bards 1 tank 1 rogue 3 wizards, Know HOW to use them and you will be leveling like crazy

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:38 pm 
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yah this idea is good, We need an European and an USA party bcoz i can't play from example 1am till 7-8am.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
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yah this idea is good, We need an European and an USA party bcoz i can't play from example 1am till 7-8am.


i might be able to play with you simba, i dont live in GMT+1 but the hours i play fit well with yours if your playing now...

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
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Avellia wrote:
SnowShael wrote:
To everyone saying "Rogues"

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No.

Party=

2 warrior, 1 cleric, 1 bard, 3 wizard, 1 lock
2 warrior, 1 cleric, 1 bard, 4 wizard
2 warrior, 1 cleric, 2 bard, 3 wizard
1 warrior, 1 cleric, 1 bard, 3 wizard, 1 lock
1 warrior, 1 cleric, 2 bard, 4 wizard

Notice as I go down, it goes from mobs 10-11 levels higher and then once the 2 warrior setups are out run, it goes to mobs 4-5 levels higher.

Rogues are useless, even for luring, they brag "they can't keep up with me" because "well, theres no tank protecting ints" or "you cant hold aggro, so the mobs go on ints and 1 tank" or the fact that, again, rogues are useless for "GOOD" parties.

I cannot stress that enough.

Seriously. Rogues can't told aggro, they cant tank, they dont do good DPS, they dont AOE, they dont do DOT or Status.

It's a botters char for the European race. NOT a party oriented class.

Your so WRONG
Get a str cleric 2 bards 1 tank 1 rogue 3 wizards, Know HOW to use them and you will be leveling like crazy


Whats the point of having a str cleric and a rogue...? Instead of having a normal cleric / bard + tank.

Rogues take a hell of a lot of effort with luring.. not many people can do it, at least not for a long time. On top of that, you miss out on the warrior buffs making it pointless.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
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the thought that a rogue doesnt belong in a party is a false notion preported by ex-players. rogues work well in a party. they have a purpose. they lure a steady stream of mobs and when a PTG appears they switch to daggers and rip it a new a-hole.

ive been in several tank luring parties, most of the time they either couldnt get enough mobs, or they would bring too many.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
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aa nice, what if we should do another topic for only peoples from Europe. Because we cannot play with them in the USA.It is a big difference in time and we Europeans cant play all the night.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
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you guys know nothing about good parties :palm:


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you guys know nothing about good parties :palm:


Explain :3 Indulge us

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SnowShael wrote:
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you guys know nothing about good parties :palm:


+1


im glad you guys are uping your post count but try not to be completely useless next time

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Snickers wrote:
you guys know nothing about good parties :palm:


Your experience.. a 5x Rogue/Cleric.


My experience.. a 78 pure cleric - never solod once.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:17 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
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Apollion wrote:
SnowShael wrote:
Snickers wrote:
you guys know nothing about good parties :palm:


+1


im glad you guys are uping your post count but try not to be completely useless next time

kthnxbai


Hey, how about you check a thread 2 seconds after you quote a post even.
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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
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Here, let's go over some things in detail.

Argument 1: Most times, tank lurers are slow and don't bring enough mobs, or bring too many.

My point: NO! In terms of being "Slow", that's because you don't know good spots. You're telling me you need a lurer for the 3 way crossroad uiji,muiji spot at the north passage before the bridge spots that needs distance? Or that you need a lurer for the various (although there is one amazing one :3) generals and guards spots? For Dowhang caves? No, you don't. What need is to have the monsters be 10 to 11 levels higher than your parties average level. Wizards should have full LC/LT, every int (3-4 DPS ones) should be BUFFED full time, PQ, the works. You should have a working full time bless cycle. You should time lures, I mean.. It's boggling why one would prefer a Rogue. If a lurer is too slow, do a better spot, you're not a bot ffs just move. If they bring too many, then you're not doing it right.

Really, it's only too many if someone forgets to announce or perform "ibn".

If you know what that means, good job, you're reminded of the old days of MaliceArmy on odin or Avalon on venus. *cries* Maliccceeee :( Anyways..

You need 2 tankers, 1 for int protection and 1 for str tanking mobs. You need a cleric, full it or heavy int hybrid. You need a bard, although I've seen two work out well . You need 3 wizards MINIMUM, but 3 and a lock or 4, or hell, get risky and do 2 wizzies and 2 locks if you have nothing else, haha.. AOE DOT's can be a powerful thing with status, guys. Remember impotent, division, etc?

Where does a rogue fit in? It only degregates exp/min because it cannot tank.

It cannot hold aggro.

It cannot buff.

It cannot aoe.

It cannot do USEFUL status effects.

It cannot do DPS.

Maybe when you kids reach guards or chasers, or even leave the cave and people hit 64 on guards (best time for wizzies, boom boom haha :) I always has a secret "fetish" for 64 wizzies on guards compared to 58-63, they got new staffs, 60+ skills guaranteed, tehehe. Don't tell anyone :3) Then you'll get it.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for 7 players to level from 1-80 in 2 weeks!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:53 pm 
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i suggest we think of a guild name guys so all confusion about who is who and stuff is cleared..
i am lvl 14 now cause i didnt want 2 wait up for you guys;)

post some guild names and when the first 1 makes lvl 20 make a guild as soon as possible!
so post away!:D

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:55 pm 
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ReBirth< was gunna be the one i created, seems suiting what do you think?

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its a cool name but not with capital B that looks a tad gay;)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:59 pm 
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lol alright well pm me in game, CapN_ChroniC

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need 1 warrior , 1warlock and 1 wizard for gmt +1 party ;)

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SnowShael wrote:
Here, let's go over some things in detail.

Argument 1: Most times, tank lurers are slow and don't bring enough mobs, or bring too many.

My point: NO! In terms of being "Slow", that's because you don't know good spots. You're telling me you need a lurer for the 3 way crossroad uiji,muiji spot at the north passage before the bridge spots that needs distance? Or that you need a lurer for the various (although there is one amazing one :3) generals and guards spots? For Dowhang caves? No, you don't. What need is to have the monsters be 10 to 11 levels higher than your parties average level. Wizards should have full LC/LT, every int (3-4 DPS ones) should be BUFFED full time, PQ, the works. You should have a working full time bless cycle. You should time lures, I mean.. It's boggling why one would prefer a Rogue. If a lurer is too slow, do a better spot, you're not a bot ffs just move. If they bring too many, then you're not doing it right.

Really, it's only too many if someone forgets to announce or perform "ibn".

If you know what that means, good job, you're reminded of the old days of MaliceArmy on odin or Avalon on venus. *cries* Maliccceeee :( Anyways..

You need 2 tankers, 1 for int protection and 1 for str tanking mobs. You need a cleric, full it or heavy int hybrid. You need a bard, although I've seen two work out well . You need 3 wizards MINIMUM, but 3 and a lock or 4, or hell, get risky and do 2 wizzies and 2 locks if you have nothing else, haha.. AOE DOT's can be a powerful thing with status, guys. Remember impotent, division, etc?

Where does a rogue fit in? It only degregates exp/min because it cannot tank.

It cannot hold aggro.

It cannot buff.

It cannot aoe.

It cannot do USEFUL status effects.

It cannot do DPS.

Maybe when you kids reach guards or chasers, or even leave the cave and people hit 64 on guards (best time for wizzies, boom boom haha :) I always has a secret "fetish" for 64 wizzies on guards compared to 58-63, they got new staffs, 60+ skills guaranteed, tehehe. Don't tell anyone :3) Then you'll get it.


You, Sir, should have experienced real Party Play with me and my friends on *SRO. STR Cleric and Rogue works perfect at Penons, just go to EternalFlameSRA's Youtube Channel for a video (i'll make one soon, too). Rogues are awesome lurers, and they CAN do useful status effects (Poison Circle/Field). I'm a lv 44 Warrior/Rogue atm and the exp in our Penon Parties is just *amazing*. And I've tried regular setups too and they simply lack enough mobs.

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You, Sir, should have experienced real Party Play with me and my friends on *SRO. STR Cleric and Rogue works perfect at Penons, just go to EternalFlameSRA's Youtube Channel for a video (i'll make one soon, too). Rogues are awesome lurers, and they CAN do useful status effects (Poison Circle/Field). I'm a lv 44 Warrior/Rogue atm and the exp in our Penon Parties is just *amazing*. And I've tried regular setups too and they simply lack enough mobs.


Either your fighting mobs at too low level, or your at a terrible spot. Or more likely, your second warrior sucks.


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GMT+1 is european time? I can join that squad. I would like to be warlock or wizz


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You, Sir, should have experienced real Party Play with me and my friends on *SRO. STR Cleric and Rogue works perfect at Penons, just go to EternalFlameSRA's Youtube Channel for a video (i'll make one soon, too). Rogues are awesome lurers, and they CAN do useful status effects (Poison Circle/Field). I'm a lv 44 Warrior/Rogue atm and the exp in our Penon Parties is just *amazing*. And I've tried regular setups too and they simply lack enough mobs.


Either your fighting mobs at too low level, or your at a terrible spot. Or more likely, your second warrior sucks.

Ok, i haven't really tried a lot of 2 warrior setups, but since warriors have only one 3 mobs taunt skill with 5 secs cd, they're a pain to lure with... :slap:

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You, Sir, should have experienced real Party Play with me and my friends on *SRO. STR Cleric and Rogue works perfect at Penons, just go to EternalFlameSRA's Youtube Channel for a video (i'll make one soon, too). Rogues are awesome lurers, and they CAN do useful status effects (Poison Circle/Field). I'm a lv 44 Warrior/Rogue atm and the exp in our Penon Parties is just *amazing*. And I've tried regular setups too and they simply lack enough mobs.


Either your fighting mobs at too low level, or your at a terrible spot. Or more likely, your second warrior sucks.

Ok, i haven't really tried a lot of 2 warrior setups, but since warriors have only one 3 mobs taunt skill with 5 secs cd, they're a pain to lure with... :slap:

i was best lure guy at hera at generals not alot of problem with to les mobs there but never realy tried rogue pulls

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