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 Post subject: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:02 pm 
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Hello. I'm currently farming and I've been trying to find a good guide but found nothing. I know the obvious stuff. There are many things people don't know about farming. I need more info.
For example, I found out that each time you add a chinese char into your party, you will always get less xp no matter what lvl.

MY QUESTION IS:
I'm farming at huns, lvl 35/36. What is the lvl range where I'd gain most xp? I'd like to know exactly when to delvl and what lvl to delvl to.

(Example answer: At lvl 21, you will gain good xp. Then at lvl 29, you will get low xp)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:19 pm 
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xp or sxp?

best sxp = stay as close to 24/25 as possible and have skills at 15 or lower

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:26 pm 
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max difference is 9
you gain the most exp if mob lvl = your lvl + 9
and if total level of member in party / number of member in party > mob level, then your exp is double

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:37 pm 
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Ok thanks. Yes, I'm sp farming with at least a 9 gap.

So 9 level difference is optimal. So do I delvl at 27, 28, or 29? What monster gap do I start to decrease in sp gain?

What is the minimum level I should delvl to? 21?

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:46 pm 
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maximum mastery + 9 = your level = mob level - 9

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
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nycflip220 wrote:
For example, I found out that each time you add a chinese char into your party, you will always get less xp no matter what lvl.


From where u ghet that stupid info ?

To ghet best xp/sp u must be 11 lvls lower than the mob , and ofcourse to have 9 gap .

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
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For example, I found out that each time you add a chinese char into your party, you will always get less xp no matter what lvl.


From where u ghet that stupid info ?

To ghet best xp/sp u must be 11 lvls lower than the mob , and ofcourse to have 9 gap .

Where have you been noob? The only thing stupid is your spelling of "get".
I've added a chinese to my party lvl 1x...my xp went gain went down. I added a euro to my pt, basically the same lvl, if not higher and the xp went up.

I assume you also don't know that Euro ALWAYS earns more than Chinese even if it's not a full euro party?

I've recorded sp gains all the time and compared them with other builds and levels.

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Anyway, from recording sp, I found out that lvl 27 should be the max for great gains. Anything over, the sp gains start to decline.

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
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Just stay 11 (not 9) levels lower than the mobs, and have your masteries 9 levels below that number

some stupid people think you stay 9 levels below the mob's level, but test it and you will c that it is actually 11.

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
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Smi!ezZ wrote:
Just stay 11 (not 9) levels lower than the mobs, and have your masteries 9 levels below that number

some stupid people think you stay 9 levels below the mob's level, but test it and you will c that it is actually 11.

Thank you. I have tested...9 levels below is the MAX. As I recently mentioned, at 8 levels below, sp starts to drop.

Now I'm figuring out what's the lowest level I should delvl to. Maybe something like 14 levels lower than mobs?

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
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Smi!ezZ wrote:
Just stay 11 (not 9) levels lower than the mobs, and have your masteries 9 levels below that number

some stupid people think you stay 9 levels below the mob's level, but test it and you will c that it is actually 11.

Do I have to troll you smart ass? I quited sro like years so some info couldn't be 100% correct.

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
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nycflip220 wrote:
Smi!ezZ wrote:
Just stay 11 (not 9) levels lower than the mobs, and have your masteries 9 levels below that number

some stupid people think you stay 9 levels below the mob's level, but test it and you will c that it is actually 11.

Thank you. I have tested...9 levels below is the MAX. As I recently mentioned, at 8 levels below, sp starts to drop.

Now I'm figuring out what's the lowest level I should delvl to. Maybe something like 14 levels lower than mobs?


Well looks like you already have the answers? Maybe shouldn't have started the topic since you seem to think you know everything already

But your wrong anyway... for SXP stay 11 lvls below the monster and 9 mastery levels below you level... If you decide not to then just add a few extra weeks to your farming

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
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its fine :S its plvl... you do nothing at all for exp/sxp... even if you get 1xp per mobs, its 1 more than if you werent in pt and still doing nothing...

staying 11 below mob is impossible... no one would move to different mob just to stay 11 below...

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
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i dont think the SP drops when chinese joins the pt, its more like you get a 20% boost when all ur pt is euro. and also euro gain 20% more by itself. so if all party is euro = 40% boost.

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
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Yo,

I remember you from troy :)

Greetings from a former NyghtBreed member.

Also saw your latest posts on SRT a few weeks ago, quite sad tbh.

Anyway GL on your farming. Been out too long to have any decent theory input on the matter.

p.s you back on Troy?

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:12 am 
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Smi!ezZ wrote:
nycflip220 wrote:
Smi!ezZ wrote:
Just stay 11 (not 9) levels lower than the mobs, and have your masteries 9 levels below that number

some stupid people think you stay 9 levels below the mob's level, but test it and you will c that it is actually 11.

Thank you. I have tested...9 levels below is the MAX. As I recently mentioned, at 8 levels below, sp starts to drop.

Now I'm figuring out what's the lowest level I should delvl to. Maybe something like 14 levels lower than mobs?


Well looks like you already have the answers? Maybe shouldn't have started the topic since you seem to think you know everything already

But your wrong anyway... for SXP stay 11 lvls below the monster and 9 mastery levels below you level... If you decide not to then just add a few extra weeks to your farming

Pls read thread/dont cry. I didn't know the answer before I made this thread.
I also wrote that I don't know the least level I should be.

I need a range. 11 lvls below mob (35/36) means I should be 24/25. I also need to know the lowest level I can be. For example, I obviously can't be lvl 5 because I wouldn't gain enough sp.

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i dont think the SP drops when chinese joins the pt, its more like you get a 20% boost when all ur pt is euro. and also euro gain 20% more by itself. so if all party is euro = 40% boost.

correct me if im wrong


I know about the all euro boost but as I said, I had 2 chinese chars in my PT. I was one of them. After I kicked out the other chinese char and added a euro char, my SP gains rose. That's what I experience and I check it time and time again.

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Yo,

I remember you from troy :)

Greetings from a former NyghtBreed member.

Also saw your latest posts on SRT a few weeks ago, quite sad tbh.

Anyway GL on your farming. Been out too long to have any decent theory input on the matter.

p.s you back on Troy?


Nice, who was your char? So you don't play anymore?
Yea man that damn feb6 ban sucked...I'm trying to figure out what could've set off their hackshield since I never have used a third party program. Soooo stupid.

All veteran troy players are gone. Maybe about 15 strong ones left or w/e..sucks..and no1 talks anymore. I feel like i'm talking to a wall...everyone is a botter.

Yes, im back. I have a new char :-P

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
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I meant to say PMS, I don't know why NyghtBreed came out O_o

Maybe it's because I was just looking up some oldschool NyghtBreed pics.

I rerolled xian when PMS started botting.

Bah those days... I so badly want them :(

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:52 am 
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[SD]Twysta wrote:
I meant to say PMS, I don't know why NyghtBreed came out O_o

Maybe it's because I was just looking up some oldschool NyghtBreed pics.

I rerolled xian when PMS started botting.

Bah those days... I so badly want them :(

Hmm, I can't really remember that guild.

Yea, I think everyone wants 70/80 cap back.

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:13 am 
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Ahhhh ok, well NOW i know. What was your char name?

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BTW, I answered my own question. I delvled to xx.
I noted that at level xx I was gaining more xp from 35 mobs than 36. Then I realized!! :P

Awesome!

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nycflip220 wrote:
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Thank you. I have tested...9 levels below is the MAX. As I recently mentioned, at 8 levels below, sp starts to drop.

Now I'm figuring out what's the lowest level I should delvl to. Maybe something like 14 levels lower than mobs?


Well looks like you already have the answers? Maybe shouldn't have started the topic since you seem to think you know everything already

But your wrong anyway... for SXP stay 11 lvls below the monster and 9 mastery levels below you level... If you decide not to then just add a few extra weeks to your farming

Pls read thread/dont cry. I didn't know the answer before I made this thread.
I also wrote that I don't know the least level I should be.

I need a range. 11 lvls below mob (35/36) means I should be 24/25. I also need to know the lowest level I can be. For example, I obviously can't be lvl 5 because I wouldn't gain enough sp.


Smi!ezZ wrote:
xp or sxp?

best sxp = stay as close to 24/25 as possible and have skills at 15 or lower

^it was the FIRST post

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 Post subject: Re: Farming: Lvl Range From Monster?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:47 am 
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Smi!ezZ wrote:
xp or sxp?

best sxp = stay as close to 24/25 as possible and have skills at 15 or lower

^it was the FIRST post[/quote]


That's still not a range. I wanted a more specific range..

But today I found the EXACT answer/level for my self...Not going to say here but for example it'd be like 18-29, or 20-27, or 19-30, etc etc...

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And for the other guy. I reconfirmed SP gains:
PARTY:
6 euro and 1 chinese..
then a chinese lvl 18 joined...sp gain dropped about 60 or so each kill...
Then I had a level 18 EURO join and I gained 60 or so each kill...
Not sure of the exact numbers but more euro= more sp. Doesn't HAVE to be ALL euro to gain a little bonus.

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