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Ch4otik · **Joined:** Jan 2010 **Posts:** 212 **Location:**

i must say. it is soooooo much fun reading about all these bans. makes SRO interesting again. I've also noticed a lotta "n00b" activity in Jangan and Dowhang. I'm intrigued. Just wanna see how this whole thing will turn out.

oh yes. of course. my condolences to those faithful SRO legits who lost their characters. a moment of silence please.......

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:40 pm

just wait some more weeks and see

Trace · **Joined:** May 2009 **Posts:** 244 **Location:** Mirrodin

TheSpy wrote:

Quote:

Tell me, why was I banned for "Illegal program use"? I never ever used a third party program. Unban my account or I and my friends will charge-back everything and quit Silkroad.

Quote:

Dear Valued Customer,

Greeting from Joymax Customer Support Team!

We received
your message regarding your account.

We regret to inform you that your account is using an illegal program. Our system automatically detects any illegal program in the system thus making it 100% accurate. So we advice those who are using third party
programs that is ruining the game contents to refrain from using it.

We just want to remind you that you should not use third party programs that will ruin the game play. If you are caught using any illegal program your account will be blocked.

Thank you.

* Joymax will NEVER ask players about personal & account information, password, and credit card numbers, nor will they ever ask a player for a trade.

* To prevent the loss of accounts, we strongly recommend our users change password frequently.

Thank you for emailing Joymax Customer Support.

For further details
and support, kindly visit our website at http://www.joymax.com/silkroad.

Sincerely yours,
Joymax Customer Support Team

100% accurate my ass. I bet they threat msnmgr.exe (Life Messenger) as a third party program affecting Silkroad. Won't be able to sell teh account then. Oh well.

I've got nothing against you, and its not personal when I say what I have to say.

Members here have been permabanned for reasons much less, and some even with poor evidence. What you post is an admission that you have in your possession an account (supported by Joymax) that is deemed abusive to the system, and ban worthy. You can blame Joymax, but it's clear that you should be banned from this forum as well for botting, unless you can prove to be legit.

A few years back, having a banned account was proof that a person was a botter, but people here seem to forget.

SNAPPA77 · **Joined:** Oct 2009 **Posts:** 473 **Location:** GODofAEGE

Trace wrote:

I've got nothing against you, and its not personal when I say what I have to say.

Members here have been permabanned for reasons much less, and some even with poor evidence. What you post is an admission that you have in your possession an account (supported by Joymax) that is deemed abusive to the system, and ban worthy. You can blame Joymax, but it's clear that you should be banned from this forum as well for botting, unless you can prove to be legit.

A few years back, having a banned account was proof that a person was a botter, but people here seem to forget.

Thank you.

Now that Joylessmax is clamping down on this sh!t it is hilarious to see ppl around here come up with excuses.

They caught you. They banned you. And by tradition.... same should be done here.

I don't agree with it but hey it is tradition. It is standard form here.

MSN-Msgr?? really? Skype? Windows? Ventrillo?

C'mon Son!
Shaq and I don't believe you.

Hypocrite haven.

Azilius · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 4236 **Location:** CS:GO

Goseki wrote:

Azilius wrote:

No such thing as a random ban. They don't ban legits.

You botted or used some kind of third party program, even PK2 editors get banned on the odd day. Your fault.

You're an old member Azil, how can you even say that. You've lived through all those random bans they did where they went, "Oops, shit we banned some legits on accidents again. Ctrl+z time, I mean inspection time!"

There's been multiple times in the past where they farked up and had to unbann a bunch of botters and legits due to some weird error with their "bot" detection program, which itself is a bot. No hand banning here.

I disagree. With the amount of legits out there it's hard to believe someone when they say 'Oh god my legit char was banned!!'. I really don't remember any time where they stated they accidentally banned legits either. I know they've unbanned lots of people but to say that they were all legit is a little naive. My alt got banned (level 17 no silk) and it was Pk2 edited.

I've seen people who I were so sure were legit get banned and eventually admit that they botted or used a loader at one point. I have no faith in anyone at this point =\

To be fair it could be one of those chargeback things where you chargeback on a CC and all accounts linked get banned..but probably not.

Goseki · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 3452 **Location:**

@Azilius

JM has never once admitted to a single fault. When they mess up, they just blame something or someone else. Portal hole, accidental bannings, whatevers. If they fark up, they'll just reset some data and be like, "Our bad, electricity in our building caused hardware malfunction."

@SNAPPA77

My client auto-crashed thnks to hackshield whenever I try to work with Chrome + Word + paint.net so I can work on my paper. I never new I could be banned from the game and SRF for using Word. O shit, let me quit school so I can be "legit".

It also use to be proof that if you got your account "hacked" ppl would jump on you and go, haha botter got hacked. Now we all know that it could also be due to JM's shitty programming skills.

dom · **Posted:** Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:31 pm

ATTN GD: PM me for a WoW recruit-a-friend invite. I get a free month.

TheSpy · **Joined:** Jul 2009 **Posts:** 271 **Location:**

Bg_DrEaM wrote:

Oh noez they banned me because i used skype T.T :palm:

The truth is there is no point of even sending a message to them, i browsed so many forums and saw so many threads about all the banned players, all are getting one of the 3 automated letters. One is post here, the other 2 letters are similar. So why even bother sending a mail to them. And also, as all of us agreed to the ToS, we agreed that our chars are property of joymax, and even if we never use any 3rd party program, never insult scam or anything, joymax can still ban you, because they like to do so. Because the character you play is their property. So... nothing really you, or me, or anyone can do about it

If I pay silk and I get banned for no reason, that's called fair? I'm already laughing.

Bg_DrEaM · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1354 **Location:**

No one says it's fair, but according to their ToS they can ban u and you have no right of compensation about it. No one forced you to buy silk, the game is F2P so it was your own decision to pay so the game is more comfortable to you.
I don't stand on Joymax's side, i just try to see the facts realistic, i don't like them either, but that's the way it is...

yoyoyo8 · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 294 **Location:** ITALY

it was probably a bug that randomly banned ppl i guess. Even if u ban first time should be 7days.

Joymax Fail :cry:

lucid4life · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 140 **Location:**

Quote:

You can blame Joymax, but it's clear that you should be banned from this forum as well for botting, unless you can prove to be legit.

Do u even know how things get proven?
Let me give u a hint:its not by proving a negative.

I mean :How do u even prove that u are a legit,and what set of standards do u use anyway?

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

lucid4life wrote:

Quote:

You can blame Joymax, but it's clear that you should be banned from this forum as well for botting, unless you can prove to be legit.

Do u even know how things get proven?
Let me give u a hint:its not by proving a negative.

I mean :How do u even prove that u are a legit,and what set of standards do u use anyway?

+ 1
good point sir

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

SNAPPA77 wrote:

Trace wrote:

I've got nothing against you, and its not personal when I say what I have to say.

Members here have been permabanned for reasons much less, and some even with poor evidence. What you post is an admission that you have in your possession an account (supported by Joymax) that is deemed abusive to the system, and ban worthy. You can blame Joymax, but it's clear that you should be banned from this forum as well for botting, unless you can prove to be legit.

A few years back, having a banned account was proof that a person was a botter, but people here seem to forget.

Thank you.

Now that Joylessmax is clamping down on this sh!t it is hilarious to see ppl around here come up with excuses.

They caught you. They banned you. And by tradition.... same should be done here.

I don't agree with it but hey it is tradition. It is standard form here.

MSN-Msgr?? really? Skype? Windows? Ventrillo?

C'mon Son!
Shaq and I don't believe you.

Hypocrite haven.

That tradition needs to be re-written because it does seem Joymax is making mistakes. When their system is banning newb acct where the chances of a level 1-5 acct is botting is really low you know the process is messed up.

SNAPPA77 · **Joined:** Oct 2009 **Posts:** 473 **Location:** GODofAEGE

BuDo wrote:

That tradition needs to be re-written because it does seem Joymax is making mistakes. When their system is banning newb acct where the chances of a level 1-5 acct is botting is really low you know the process is messed up.

BuDo lets get real.

The "newb" accounts that I know that got banned were ppl's stall chars and storage chars that were using multi client or the bot client. Not necessarily out botting but still using the programs. So it is no surprise those lvl 1-5 acct's got banned.

Joymax doesn't seem to be making mistakes to me. The only mistakes I see is ppl who were living in the closet that got exposed. This entire "Oh noes my account got banned and I am legit" sad stories ppl are telling is just that...... stories. Fairy tales. Fiction. Tall tales. Aesop's fables. Penthouse forums.

Lets stop the bullsh!t. End this propaganda campaign. ALOT if not all of you bastids that got banned got caught using. It is just cuz of THIS forums 'Don't ask Don't tell' policy that this whole "Joymax is doing random bans" fantasy started. Now that the non hetero's are being outted I wonder how the MODS and admins here are gonna address it.

It is an interesting scenario. And I don't envy the mods right now. Do they stick to the policy or are they gonna make exceptions or are the gonna ignore the problem and hope it goes away? Curious to see how this plays out.

What makes it 'kinda' funny is all these ppl self exposing with their boo hoo stories. I am really hoping Joymax steps up on the bans big time. Just to see who gets added to the exposed hypocrites list.

So in a little more than 24hrs from now we will know what direction Joymax is going with this.

This upcoming inspection should answer a few questions.

Tick Tock.

Karras · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 659 **Location:**

Don't be so sure when u want to claim something unless you've done extensive research and experienced it first hand yourself.

Based on personal trial.
Ban is totally random.

HawaiianMix · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 786 **Location:**

Every one of yall that still plays, bots. Get over it.

lucid4life · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 140 **Location:**

Quote:

Every one of yall that still plays, bots. Get over it.

Strong Appeal to "the allknowing" argument(made that up

),nice to meet u God ^^ ,oh and last I heard,unfounded accusations are not tolerated.

HawaiianMix · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 786 **Location:**

lucid4life wrote:

Quote:

Every one of yall that still plays, bots. Get over it.

Strong Appeal to "the allknowing" argument(made that up

),nice to meet u God ^^ ,oh and last I heard,unfounded accusations are not tolerated.

There is no god, get over it.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:33 am

I do know legits that got banned..I'm still banfree but I got a prem on all the chars I use so yeah, I still believe it has something to do with silk(charge). I did loose quite some items cuz of friends bans :/

/Edit: Just checked a friends char, legit char, handfarmed, handgrinded, silk history but not logged for the past weeks (sometimes by me to pvp a bit) and he's banned too. And it's a rl friend so I know he was legit.

lucid4life · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 140 **Location:**

Quote:

Every one of yall that still plays, bots. Get over it.

Quote:

There is no god, get over it.

Ur acting like one though :palm:

On topic at hand,legits get banned 2.

HawaiianMix · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 786 **Location:**

lucid4life wrote:

Quote:

Every one of yall that still plays, bots. Get over it.

Quote:

There is no god, get over it.

Ur acting like one though :palm:

On topic at hand,legits get banned 2.

I don't know what planet you live on, but you obviously are confused.

CeLL · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:26 pm

XMoshe wrote:

I do know legits that got banned..I'm still banfree but I got a prem on all the chars I use so yeah, I still believe it has something to do with silk(charge). I did loose quite some items cuz of friends bans :/

/Edit: Just checked a friends char, legit char, handfarmed, handgrinded, silk history but not logged for the past weeks (sometimes by me to pvp a bit) and he's banned too. And it's a rl friend so I know he was legit.

maybe they saw that you and he were sharing accounts. thats illegal also.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:36 pm

CeLL wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

I do know legits that got banned..I'm still banfree but I got a prem on all the chars I use so yeah, I still believe it has something to do with silk(charge). I did loose quite some items cuz of friends bans :/

/Edit: Just checked a friends char, legit char, handfarmed, handgrinded, silk history but not logged for the past weeks (sometimes by me to pvp a bit) and he's banned too. And it's a rl friend so I know he was legit.

maybe they saw that you and he were sharing accounts. thats illegal also.

I did not kill a single mob on it lol, I used it to pvp and since when is that forbidden.

If we would get banned for sharing like that all my chars should be banned since they get logged from 3+ pc's a day almost. Yes my friends love to pvp with my chars

curvekiller · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 975 **Location:** Bavaria

SNAPPA77 wrote:

TheSpy wrote:

Never ever used a bot in my whole life, had about ~2000 silk change history. Level 97, fully farmed to 120.

I'm out. ~_~

Not saying I don't believe you. To be honest I personally don't give a fvck if ya did. But I am very curious how many ppl on this forum is gonna get banned.

'Cuz it must be a Joymax screwup that is banning alllllll these innocent ppl.' :roll:

C'mon. Only in here can ppl serve up that bull crap and other ppl get in line with a plate. :palm:

I really really really hope this keeps up. Can't wait to see some of these hypocrites in here start all these threads about how they were banned but they are truly 100% legit. Y'all know the ones. The same lil attention whores that pop in each thread and contribute NOTHING and make insinuations and accusations. Glass house living stone throwers.

Anyways... to the OP. Email Joylessmax. If what you say is true then spam the sh!t outta them. Do what you gotta do to get your char back. If that doesn't work.....get your f'n money back.

But honestly....it might be something on your end. Just saying.

+1000

Apollion · **Joined:** Jul 2009 **Posts:** 642 **Location:** Esro

SNAPPA77 wrote:

BuDo wrote:

That tradition needs to be re-written because it does seem Joymax is making mistakes. When their system is banning newb acct where the chances of a level 1-5 acct is botting is really low you know the process is messed up.

BuDo lets get real.

The "newb" accounts that I know that got banned were ppl's stall chars and storage chars that were using multi client or the bot client. Not necessarily out botting but still using the programs. So it is no surprise those lvl 1-5 acct's got banned.

Joymax doesn't seem to be making mistakes to me. The only mistakes I see is ppl who were living in the closet that got exposed. This entire "Oh noes my account got banned and I am legit" sad stories ppl are telling is just that...... stories. Fairy tales. Fiction. Tall tales. Aesop's fables. Penthouse forums.

Lets stop the bullsh!t. End this propaganda campaign. ALOT if not all of you bastids that got banned got caught using. It is just cuz of THIS forums 'Don't ask Don't tell' policy that this whole "Joymax is doing random bans" fantasy started. Now that the non hetero's are being outted I wonder how the MODS and admins here are gonna address it.

It is an interesting scenario. And I don't envy the mods right now. Do they stick to the policy or are they gonna make exceptions or are the gonna ignore the problem and hope it goes away? Curious to see how this plays out.

What makes it 'kinda' funny is all these ppl self exposing with their boo hoo stories. I am really hoping Joymax steps up on the bans big time. Just to see who gets added to the exposed hypocrites list.

So in a little more than 24hrs from now we will know what direction Joymax is going with this.

This upcoming inspection should answer a few questions.

Tick Tock.

How funny would it be if JM is having problems with wrong bans and his account gets banned lol :yay:

xzaz · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 1574 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

just wait some more weeks and see

i'v said that for 3 years, but this is already a 3 weeks strike... mmm

Toasty · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 2568 **Location:**

Lovin it.

97 ff to 120 fully legit. Ya sure.

MrSonic · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 325 **Location:**

Unfortunately for you, there is no possible way (that i know of, at least) to prove whether or not you are legit. So basically, this is Joymax's bot detection system vs your word. Not too difficult picking which one to stand by on this one, especially on a forum where even MODS have been exposed as botters and banned in the past.

TheSpy wrote:

If I pay silk and I get banned for no reason, that's called fair? I'm already laughing.

That is irrelevant. No matter how much you've invested into this game Joymax still has the right to ban you. Your fault for botting/using loader/whatever.

XMoshe wrote:

I did not kill a single mob on it lol, I used it to pvp and since when is that forbidden.

If we would get banned for sharing like that all my chars should be banned since they get logged from 3+ pc's a day almost. Yes my friends love to pvp with my chars

It doesn't matter what you did with said account, just logging in with it already breaks the ToS.

On a side note, i have never used a bot/loader/3rd party software on any of my accounts, nor did i PK2 edit on any of them. And surprise surprise none of them are banned. :roll:

Nick Invaders · **Joined:** Apr 2009 **Posts:** 1105 **Location:**

As far as I know, the 2 accounts I used to use when I quit are still unbanned, unless it doesn't tell you are banned when you log in to the website.

CeLL · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:56 am

XMoshe wrote:

CeLL wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

I do know legits that got banned..I'm still banfree but I got a prem on all the chars I use so yeah, I still believe it has something to do with silk(charge). I did loose quite some items cuz of friends bans :/

/Edit: Just checked a friends char, legit char, handfarmed, handgrinded, silk history but not logged for the past weeks (sometimes by me to pvp a bit) and he's banned too. And it's a rl friend so I know he was legit.

maybe they saw that you and he were sharing accounts. thats illegal also.

I did not kill a single mob on it lol, I used it to pvp and since when is that forbidden.

If we would get banned for sharing like that all my chars should be banned since they get logged from 3+ pc's a day almost. Yes my friends love to pvp with my chars

READ THE FUCKING TOS.

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