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 Post subject: Pvp skills usage
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:54 am 
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So yea, I haven't get to a chance to pvp that much since 90 cap. It's been a long dreaded never ending grinding to 100. Finally I'm full farmed 100. I wonder how those people do it, they grind so fast to 100. Anyways, I'm in a dilemma here.

So I pvp a couple of chinese and I owned all of them (non sun user). hehe But my problem I run into today was when I went against a warrior/cleric. Now I dont problem fighting against warrior/cleric but this dam warrior/cleric just spamming healing and vigor all day. Not only that, he got a sun +10 two-handed sword. He should be cleric/warrior instead of warrior/cleric. Well nothing to be ashamed of losing a sun user.

My usual combo is soul spear emperor, windless spear, sss/sse, ghost. But at this cap, the dam windless is gone and is replaced by this new move called Death bringer Spear. You see with sss, windless, it goes to ghost storm cloud right away. But this dam death bringer leaves you open and have that 2 sec delay after the move is finish. So I'm wide open for attack, I dont think this move is good for pvping anymore. I tried using sss, flying dragon flash, and ghost. But it's still slow.

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:31 am 
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Sorry can't help, Warrior/Cleric is the strongest build in the game when its played right.

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
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try to use a stronger wep and get a prem+ and DS gives you much attack power and as above post said warrior cleric is one of the toughest builds to own if the player is experienced :p

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delete your char and make a euro :P

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:36 am 
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So yea, I haven't get to a chance to pvp that much since 90 cap. It's been a long dreaded never ending grinding to 100. Finally I'm full farmed 100. I wonder how those people do it, they grind so fast to 100. Anyways, I'm in a dilemma here.

So I pvp a couple of chinese and I owned all of them (non sun user). hehe But my problem I run into today was when I went against a warrior/cleric. Now I dont problem fighting against warrior/cleric but this dam warrior/cleric just spamming healing and vigor all day. Not only that, he got a sun +10 two-handed sword. He should be cleric/warrior instead of warrior/cleric. Well nothing to be ashamed of losing a sun user.

My usual combo is soul spear emperor, windless spear, sss/sse, ghost. But at this cap, the dam windless is gone and is replaced by this new move called Death bringer Spear. You see with sss, windless, it goes to ghost storm cloud right away. But this dam death bringer leaves you open and have that 2 sec delay after the move is finish. So I'm wide open for attack, I dont think this move is good for pvping anymore. I tried using sss, flying dragon flash, and ghost. But it's still slow.

Can anybody help?


warrior is a strong build and as for skills/tactics.the following video is the only 1 i seen where a player uses his brain {glavier tactics}.now both have sun weapon but the same tactic should apply on normal weapon users I guess, and btw protector set is better imo. with +6 (61%+) absorption, jewels>armor set, just need good gear and anyone can do well with good tactics.

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:31 am 
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Warrior Cleric is the strongest 1v1 build, Period.
DareDevil is almost Instant Kill to any Int Build without Snow.
Skins, Holy Word, Healing Orbit, Recovery Division, Bless Spell...
U can't kill em.
Skin = 45 Seconds
Bless = 45 Seconds
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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:37 am 
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Yea, honestly warriors have too many things chained together to bring down unless they lag or suck at pvp. Timed right, there's only about 30 sec left for an int to kill, which is prob the easiest build to kill warrior clerics due to the high dps. They already took the status out with holy word, so in that 30 sec, you must be able to deal some high dmg, than kd/stun and finish him off right when your snow ends. Less than 30 secs due to the stuns they get so easily, so about 20 sec or less.

I still stick with my old view, Euros should have been limited to 1 mastery only, and china 2. This would force china to go hybrid, and euros to stay pure. This will also show that euros pwn group pvp, but will suck when solo. Unfortunately, JM wants $$, and making more master, more farming, more $. The game mechanics and experience would be so much better if euros were limited to 1 mastery and china to 2.

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:31 am 
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Just use windless instead of death bringer, I don't think the damage differs that much. Also I wouldn't use windless (or death bringer) at all against warrior/clerics since they got holy so what use is the skill? You won't get dull, you'll be better off going for SSE/SSS for stun (even though SSS will probably do shit dmg).

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
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TillTheEnd wrote:
Woohoo wrote:
So yea, I haven't get to a chance to pvp that much since 90 cap. It's been a long dreaded never ending grinding to 100. Finally I'm full farmed 100. I wonder how those people do it, they grind so fast to 100. Anyways, I'm in a dilemma here.

So I pvp a couple of chinese and I owned all of them (non sun user). hehe But my problem I run into today was when I went against a warrior/cleric. Now I dont problem fighting against warrior/cleric but this dam warrior/cleric just spamming healing and vigor all day. Not only that, he got a sun +10 two-handed sword. He should be cleric/warrior instead of warrior/cleric. Well nothing to be ashamed of losing a sun user.

My usual combo is soul spear emperor, windless spear, sss/sse, ghost. But at this cap, the dam windless is gone and is replaced by this new move called Death bringer Spear. You see with sss, windless, it goes to ghost storm cloud right away. But this dam death bringer leaves you open and have that 2 sec delay after the move is finish. So I'm wide open for attack, I dont think this move is good for pvping anymore. I tried using sss, flying dragon flash, and ghost. But it's still slow.

Can anybody help?


warrior is a strong build and as for skills/tactics.the following video is the only 1 i seen where a player uses his brain {glavier tactics}.now both have sun weapon but the same tactic should apply on normal weapon users I guess, and btw protector set is better imo. with +6 (61%+) absorption, jewels>armor set, just need good gear and anyone can do well with good tactics.

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The guy with the +6 Spear at 4:16 is me. XD
I probably got too close while they were pvp'ing. >_>

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
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70 % of euros are warrior / cleric , 30 % wizards so if u can't beat them join them .

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
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The game mechanics and experience would be so much better if euros were limited to 1 mastery and china to 2.


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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:26 pm 
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use Soul spear emperor - windless spear- 98 flying dragon alot.

use the storm cloud only when you think you can kill your opponent with the last touch.

dont use that dead bringer at all, unless your fighting a blader without pills, so u have more change for dull :)

for example, the sun glavie in this video above uses the storm cloud to much.

also use firewall fortress against wariors.

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
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Gladiator_RN wrote:
use Soul spear emperor - windless spear- 98 flying dragon alot.

use the storm cloud only when you think you can kill your opponent with the last touch.

dont use that dead bringer at all, unless your fighting a blader without pills, so u have more change for dull :)

for example, the sun glavie in this video above uses the storm cloud to much.

also use firewall fortress against wariors.


I liked how he used Storm Could. I think he used it after each time the warrior stunned him to Knock the warrior back. When it worked it cancelled daredevil alot and also allowed him more time to repot.

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
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XMoshe wrote:
(even though SSS will probably do shit dmg).


:O

sss has been one of the most used skills in every single cap, and is still kicking ass

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
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Tsume wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
(even though SSS will probably do shit dmg).


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sss has been one of the most used skills in every single cap, and is still kicking ass


You max it before lvl 80, so at 100 I would imagine the dmg starts to get low.

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 Post subject: Re: Pvp skills usage
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:54 pm 
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To be honest that Warrior Cleric in the video sucks huge monkey balls, he is mindlessly spamming the same rotation regardless of situation. For example;

He stuns with Sprint Assault + Knockbacks at the same time, any good warrior knows that this bugs the stun and the opponent is not actually stunned cause Joymax cant fix bugs. Yet he goes for a Dare Devil and gets stunned himself.

He knocksback with the shield then sprint assaults making the target stunned or knockbacked twice meaning that the stun might as well not exist to the Ragnorak, you can see it in the video, then while stunned he does Sudden Twist meaning that even if it was going to stun it simply wont because Ragnorak is already stunned then he goes into the Dare Devil AGAIN, this is simply crap and its not the fact that Ragnorak is using any form of skill its just that hes fighting terrible Scrubs.

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warrior is a strong build and as for skills/tactics.the following video is the only 1 i seen where a player uses his brain {glavier tactics}.now both have sun weapon but the same tactic should apply on normal weapon users I guess, and btw protector set is better imo. with +6 (61%+) absorption, jewels>armor set, just need good gear and anyone can do well with good tactics.


You play in Troy?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:42 pm 
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Get a second set armor fully pimped which you will use only for warrior,i don't see any good way to kill W/C that easily.

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warrior is a strong build and as for skills/tactics.the following video is the only 1 i seen where a player uses his brain {glavier tactics}.now both have sun weapon but the same tactic should apply on normal weapon users I guess, and btw protector set is better imo. with +6 (61%+) absorption, jewels>armor set, just need good gear and anyone can do well with good tactics.


You play in Troy?

prolly ragnorak lolololololol


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prolly ragnorak lolololololol


I was thinking about that so Shhh lol xD

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