Is it worth to activate the imbue during grining if you a...

Dancin · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 286 **Location:** lol

Is it worth to activate the imbue during grinding if you are a str char compared to the amount of mp it costs?

Devilman · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 531 **Location:**

Dancin wrote:

Is it worth to activate the imbue during grinding if you are a str char compared to the amount of mp it costs?

lolwut?

ofc it's worth it... have u tried fighting with and without your imbue? it multiplies your damage many times. Example, with imbue a monster goes down in 2 hits, without imbue it goes down in 8. Now you tell me, is it worth it?

Dancin · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 286 **Location:** lol

well on my low lvl str char the damage is maybe 30% higher I don't know whether the imbue damage plays a bigger role on higher levels

Devilman · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 531 **Location:**

Dancin wrote:

well on my low lvl str char the damage is maybe 30% higher I don't know whether the imbue damage plays a bigger role on higher levels

Definitely, the imbue is just a must for all builds.

very intelligent · **Joined:** May 2009 **Posts:** 221 **Location:** Helsinki

Devilman wrote:

Dancin wrote:

Is it worth to activate the imbue during grinding if you are a str char compared to the amount of mp it costs?

lolwut?

ofc it's worth it... have u tried fighting with and without your imbue? it multiplies your damage many times. Example, with imbue a monster goes down in 2 hits, without imbue it goes down in 8. Now you tell me, is it worth it?

wut? so your saying that without imbue you need 8 hits and with imbue 2 hits? Didn't know there were so retarded ppl in SRF. And yea use the imbue, it helps your dmg quite abit it adds 25-30% to your dmg.

Devilman · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 531 **Location:**

very intelligent wrote:

Devilman wrote:

Dancin wrote:

Is it worth to activate the imbue during grinding if you are a str char compared to the amount of mp it costs?

lolwut?

ofc it's worth it... have u tried fighting with and without your imbue? it multiplies your damage many times. Example, with imbue a monster goes down in 2 hits, without imbue it goes down in 8. Now you tell me, is it worth it?

wut? so your saying that without imbue you need 8 hits and with imbue 2 hits? Didn't know there were so retarded ppl in SRF. And yea use the imbue, it helps your dmg quite abit it adds 25-30% to your dmg.

That was an EXAMPLE! There are theoretical values, i never tried how many hits it will take to kill a mob with and without imbue. Learn to read. :banghead:

very intelligent · **Joined:** May 2009 **Posts:** 221 **Location:** Helsinki

Devilman wrote:

very intelligent wrote:

Devilman wrote:

lolwut?

ofc it's worth it... have u tried fighting with and without your imbue? it multiplies your damage many times. Example, with imbue a monster goes down in 2 hits, without imbue it goes down in 8. Now you tell me, is it worth it?

wut? so your saying that without imbue you need 8 hits and with imbue 2 hits? Didn't know there were so retarded ppl in SRF. And yea use the imbue, it helps your dmg quite abit it adds 25-30% to your dmg.

That was an EXAMPLE! There are theoretical values, i never tried how many hits it will take to kill a mob with and without imbue. Learn to read. :banghead:

you learn to read, it doesnt multiply dmg at all, it just adds some dmg and your exaggerating the imbue effect, saying that it multiplies damage many times. Wow what a retard.

Devilman · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 531 **Location:**

very intelligent wrote:

you learn to read, it doesnt multiply dmg at all, it just adds some dmg and your exaggerating the imbue effect, saying that it multiplies damage many times. Wow what a retard.

Idk if it multiplies or adds damage, the point is it makes your damage greater. I'm exaggerating to show my point that it's important to have and use your imbue.

Fimero · **Posted:** Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:08 am

for a str char the imbue isnt much of a difference on damage
my maxed fire compared to lvl 1 ice imbue was like 1k-1.5k dmg difference
i would get ice lvl 1 and just use that for the frostbite

Devilman · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 531 **Location:**

Fimero wrote:

for a str char the imbue isnt much of a difference on damage
my maxed fire compared to lvl 1 ice imbue was like 1k-1.5k dmg difference
i would get ice lvl 1 and just use that for the frostbite

1.5k damage difference but every single hit. If you hit 10 times that makes a 15k difference which is a lot IMO.

Dancin · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 286 **Location:** lol

Fimero wrote:

for a str char the imbue isnt much of a difference on damage
my maxed fire compared to lvl 1 ice imbue was like 1k-1.5k dmg difference
i would get ice lvl 1 and just use that for the frostbite

That would be nice. as a str char if you level only your weapon mastery you can reach the level cap faster than an int because the int would need 3 masteries

Devilman · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 531 **Location:**

Dancin wrote:

Fimero wrote:

for a str char the imbue isnt much of a difference on damage
my maxed fire compared to lvl 1 ice imbue was like 1k-1.5k dmg difference
i would get ice lvl 1 and just use that for the frostbite

That would be nice. as a str char if you level only your weapon mastery you can reach the level cap faster than an int because the int would need 3 masteries

That would not be a good thing to do. Only one mastery leaves you without any buffs and imbue. So u'r pretty much screwed in pvp plus you will level insanely slow.
Edit: an int would still reach the cap faster than you. Because of nukes and fast leveling.

-.- · **Posted:** Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:20 am

you could just level weapon+lighting for leveling. It's easiest way to cap without sp farming, the damage isnt that different from ice,light,fire imbues so go with light for the speed. you could get like 30 fire for damage, but fire isnt really so helpful if you spend more time running to mob as you do just using 1 more skill to kill. also lion shout is good for luring as well

but if you're talking pot efficiency, leveling only light with weapon means you use more pots since you have to get hit more often and use more mp because you hit less than a ff char that levels with max skills

Crowley · **Posted:** Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:49 am

It's because of people like 'very intelligent' that SRF is slowly dying.

Fimero · **Posted:** Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:33 am

Devilman wrote:

Fimero wrote:

for a str char the imbue isnt much of a difference on damage
my maxed fire compared to lvl 1 ice imbue was like 1k-1.5k dmg difference
i would get ice lvl 1 and just use that for the frostbite

1.5k damage difference but every single hit. If you hit 10 times that makes a 15k difference which is a lot IMO.

yea if your are fighting gaints that makes a difference
the way i did it if i could kill the monster in the same amount of skills as i would with my higher imbue would use it
its not like your stuck with just using 1 imbue
you can do one and then the other

Fimero · **Posted:** Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:35 am

Tsume wrote:

It's because of people like 'very intelligent' that SRF is slowly dying.

+10

Fimero · **Posted:** Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:37 am

Dancin wrote:

Fimero wrote:

for a str char the imbue isnt much of a difference on damage
my maxed fire compared to lvl 1 ice imbue was like 1k-1.5k dmg difference
i would get ice lvl 1 and just use that for the frostbite

That would be nice. as a str char if you level only your weapon mastery you can reach the level cap faster than an int because the int would need 3 masteries

you dont only get imbues from trees
theres a lot more
but you can save a lot of sp and money by using a lower imbue
i had my fire imbue maxed and ice imbue lvl 1

very intelligent · **Joined:** May 2009 **Posts:** 221 **Location:** Helsinki

Tsume wrote:

It's because of people like 'very intelligent' that SRF is slowly dying.

ppls like you should make a suicide.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:43 pm

He might not always have the best reply's, but from what I saw 'very intelligent' knows more about sro than the average SRF'er.

OT: Use your imbue, it has not that big of an dmg increase but every thing helps and it is worth the mp usage. Also the status it gives to the monsters are nice (atleast, when you fight giants or pt mobs because general mobs die too fast haha)

aishsharma · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:51 pm

you can use a low lvl imbue too just to save mp as dmg diff for a pure str char is pretty low tbh

spoonyG · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 42

actually it does multiply damage

Code:

<?php
// this assumes you have a weapon with an attack rating of 225-350 with a CRIT 20 (33%)

$hitDamage = range(225,350); // your weapons base damage range (255-350)
$hitDamage = $hitDamage[array_rand($hitDamage)]; // select base damage at random
$imbueDamage = range(0,35); // the range of percentage of the imbue increase (0%-35%)
$imbueDamage= $imbueDamage[array_rand($imbueDamage)]; // select imbue damage at random
$imbueDamage = ".".$imbueDamage; // make imbue damage a decimal
$imbueDamage = round($hitDamage*$imbueDamage); // MULTIPLY the base by the imbue damage
$crit = 20; // your CRIT stat (% of CRIT happening)
$critDamage = range(0,33); // the percentage of CRIT bonus 
$critDamage = $critDamage[array_rand($critDamage)];
$critDamage = ".".$critDamage; // make imbue damage a decimal
$critDamage = round($hitDamage*$critDamage);

  if(rand(0,100) <= $crit){
    echo "CRIT! (crit = $critDamage, base = $hitDamage, imbue = $imbueDamage)";
    $hitDamage = (($hitDamage+$imbueDamage)*2)+$critDamage;
   echo " - crit adjusted damage = ".$hitDamage;
  }else{
    echo "NO CRIT! (crit = $critDamage, base = $hitDamage, imbue = $imbueDamage)";
    $hitDamage = $hitDamage+$imbueDamage;
   echo " - imbue only adjusted damage = ".$hitDamage;
  }  

// this assumes that getting a CRIT doubles the base damage + imbue damage and THEN adds the CRIT damage
// this does not take in to account reinforce values
?>

It's all a percentage based so it has to find the percentage of damage to add to the base damage so you either have to multiply or divide to get this. Since getting a crit multiplies, there's no reason to believe that imbue damage is not calculated based on multiplication as well.

Any way, yes imbues are good for grinding. Add in splash damage and status changes and the benefit is even better.

Achilles990 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1338 **Location:**

Tsume wrote:

It's because of people like 'very intelligent' that SRF is slowly dying.

lolwut?

It is worth it!!

Fimero · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:12 pm

aishsharma wrote:

you can use a low lvl imbue too just to save mp as dmg diff for a pure str char is pretty low tbh

yeaa!!!

Dancin · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 286 **Location:** lol

spoonyG wrote:

actually it does multiply damage

Code:

<?php
// this assumes you have a weapon with an attack rating of 225-350 with a CRIT 20 (33%)

$hitDamage = range(225,350); // your weapons base damage range (255-350)
$hitDamage = $hitDamage[array_rand($hitDamage)]; // select base damage at random
$imbueDamage = range(0,35); // the range of percentage of the imbue increase (0%-35%)
$imbueDamage= $imbueDamage[array_rand($imbueDamage)]; // select imbue damage at random
$imbueDamage = ".".$imbueDamage; // make imbue damage a decimal
$imbueDamage = round($hitDamage*$imbueDamage); // MULTIPLY the base by the imbue damage
$crit = 20; // your CRIT stat (% of CRIT happening)
$critDamage = range(0,33); // the percentage of CRIT bonus 
$critDamage = $critDamage[array_rand($critDamage)];
$critDamage = ".".$critDamage; // make imbue damage a decimal
$critDamage = round($hitDamage*$critDamage);

  if(rand(0,100) <= $crit){
    echo "CRIT! (crit = $critDamage, base = $hitDamage, imbue = $imbueDamage)";
    $hitDamage = (($hitDamage+$imbueDamage)*2)+$critDamage;
   echo " - crit adjusted damage = ".$hitDamage;
  }else{
    echo "NO CRIT! (crit = $critDamage, base = $hitDamage, imbue = $imbueDamage)";
    $hitDamage = $hitDamage+$imbueDamage;
   echo " - imbue only adjusted damage = ".$hitDamage;
  }  

// this assumes that getting a CRIT doubles the base damage + imbue damage and THEN adds the CRIT damage
// this does not take in to account reinforce values
?>

It's all a percentage based so it has to find the percentage of damage to add to the base damage so you either have to multiply or divide to get this. Since getting a crit multiplies, there's no reason to believe that imbue damage is not calculated based on multiplication as well.

Any way, yes imbues are good for grinding. Add in splash damage and status changes and the benefit is even better.

wth is shit damage?

Crowley · **Posted:** Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:13 am

XMoshe wrote:

He might not always have the best reply's, but from what I saw 'very intelligent' knows more about sro than the average SRF'er.

very intelligent wrote:

ppls like you should make a suicide.

Nope, he really doesn't.

Fimero · **Posted:** Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:00 am

Tsume wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

He might not always have the best reply's, but from what I saw 'very intelligent' knows more about sro than the average SRF'er.

very intelligent wrote:

ppls like you should make a suicide.

Nope, he really doesn't.

xD

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