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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:23 am 
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xmoshe so u are full str whit force ...Of cource u stand in ground and say is the best build. I mean that's what i am doing right now whit mine.
Last night i pvp whit lvl 80 s/s score 1-6 for him :D, but i manage to kill him once too. I am lvl 76.
AFAIK i saw a sun+13 Bow on ECSRO ..it was RED !!! not pink like the +5 . It was awsome. I din't know they implemented that color in ecsro( of course it was not made , it was bought from GM 100% stats SUN +13 bow lvl 52- INSANE - it had stats jut like my 76+3 bow :P )

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:28 am 
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Yeah but not just against me...I haven't seen a good hybrid str against anyone in Xian.

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:30 am 
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XMoshe wrote:
Yeah but not just against me...I haven't seen a good hybrid str against anyone in Xian.

Whats your build Dude?
Full Str Force Bow Fire? or Light?

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:36 am 
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XMoshe wrote:
Yeah but not just against me...I haven't seen a good hybrid str against anyone in Xian.


i'm not trying to make this in general ( i don;t know the expresion ) but i bet that over 80% of those hybrids build are made because u want an extra damage ...and we cannot afford a SUN gear or weapon.
If i had a sun yes ..i will go for pure str ...but i know i don;t have money for sun set and weapon :)
so this is the best alternative i got ; i never had clothes more then +3 , bad stats and some str and int here and there! The best bow i had was on ecsro at 64 sos,,,already a lot of money 80 mil...pimped him and sold it at 72 for 150 mil.
150 mil is a lot of money for me :P

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:45 am 
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Karras wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
Yeah but not just against me...I haven't seen a good hybrid str against anyone in Xian.

Whats your build Dude?
Full Str Force Bow Fire? or Light?


100 Pacheon/Force, 80 Fire, 20 Ice.

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Yeah but not just against me...I haven't seen a good hybrid str against anyone in Xian.


i'm not trying to make this in general ( i don;t know the expresion ) but i bet that over 80% of those hybrids build are made because u want an extra damage ...and we cannot afford a SUN gear or weapon.
If i had a sun yes ..i will go for pure str ...but i know i don;t have money for sun set and weapon :)
so this is the best alternative i got ; i never had clothes more then +3 , bad stats and some str and int here and there! The best bow i had was on ecsro at 64 sos,,,already a lot of money 80 mil...pimped him and sold it at 72 for 150 mil.
150 mil is a lot of money for me :P


So you made a hybrid because you can't afford good gear, but a hybrid needs good gear lol...I don't have sun's either (yet, trying for the sun bow argh) and I'm doing great.

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
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So you made a hybrid because you can't afford good gear, but a hybrid needs good gear lol...I don't have sun's either (yet, trying for the sun bow argh) and I'm doing great.[/quote]

this is the ideea:
Hybrid = defence as str - because of snow shield
Hybrid > Str in damage at same weapon .
So overall i get a better damage and the same defence .
As some one said here ...the lack of defence form points in int is low compared to the snow shield. Plus by puting some int points i get beter defence against nukers.
So overall is better then a full str whit the same gear and weapon.

EDIT : i stop here cause i see i cannot convince u :) good luck to u
If there ever be a silkroad server combining all the sro versions ..i hope i meet u :D I will hunt u down like teenage boys hunting teenage girls :D

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:23 am 
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this is the ideea:
Hybrid = defence as str - because of snow shield
Hybrid > Str in damage at same weapon .
So overall i get a better damage and the same defence .
As some one said here ...the lack of defence form points in int is low compared to the snow shield. Plus by puting some int points i get beter defence against nukers.
So overall is better then a full str whit the same gear and weapon.

EDIT : i stop here cause i see i cannot convince u :) good luck to u
If there ever be a silkroad server combining all the sro versions ..i hope i meet u :D I will hunt u down like teenage boys hunting teenage girls :D


Haha you wish dude ;) But every pure str build has atleast 20 ice so they also have snow which gives them higher defense and better crits, and the crits are what make str's being able to kill other people. You're taking the crits away for a bit of higher overall damage, IMO it's just not worth it.

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:18 am 
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XMoshe wrote:

Haha you wish dude ;) But every pure str build has atleast 20 ice so they also have snow which gives them higher defense and better crits, and the crits are what make str's being able to kill other people. You're taking the crits away for a bit of higher overall damage, IMO it's just not worth it.


i agree with u... they should be able to tank the other guy up to the point in when they start triple critting and things like that. the extra damage is good but pretty much useless without the crits and the fact u will have less tankage lol

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
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XMoshe wrote:
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I am a lvl 92 hyb str bow, and im doin very well. my lack of hp is smaller than the gains with mp, snow shield and damage. Force builds are the only ones to give me problems at pvp, cuz im gapping and im too lazy to buy special pills.


Special pills are useless if you got someone who knows how to use his force lol >.> It's like throwing away money x.X



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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:49 pm 
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smoti wrote:
Yeah, i feel u
But what i was trying to say is not a guide about making a bow chinese char , is about the fact that when i started this char on ECSRO ( the other 2 were on iSRO - xian and tibet) i was very confused ...it will suck ? etc etc..
I.ve done some math and i said i will give it a try dispite what other are saying.
And i post this here because is an opinion about how my char is doing whit this build that was destroyed by others whit full str or 70:70 builds.
So in a way i did not get the wrong section 100% ? i hope u agree ..
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dont worry about the wrong section issue
you tried your best, if you erred some mod will tell you and you'll have learned something.

about your build, being pleased with it just because you killed a glavier 2 levels above you seems to me to be a weak reason.

but i'm fascinated with chinese bow builds so i'm interested.

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:00 pm 
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why do all the guys making threads about the hybrid bower build sound like noobs?
too bad, i really would like a str hybrid bow build to be good.
i've been reading about them since what, 2 years now? ;-)
and it's still being contested.
so i guess it sucks...

to the OP : dude, stop repeating you killed a glavier 2 levels above you, it only shows your lack of experience.

i still remember the thread i had read on some forum years ago about the "new" 70:70 build... the guy was convincing:))
or i was easy to convince:) i wanted him to be right ! :)

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:02 pm 
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dont listen to the tard truie, str hyb bow is good. you dont always have to do more damage than everyone else, or tank more damage than everyone else to be good.

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:33 pm 
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ive got a lvl 100 hybrid bow 70:70 fufa

i get 1nuke killed by any lvl 100 nuker / wizard
i got no prem + , no sun

thats the only reason i get my ass handed so easily

conclusion : dont search for a good build, just buy prem+, devil spirit A, dmg scrolls & suns (magic pop)

ps : make sure ur sun set is +7 and sun weap +10

the average weapon + on my server is +7 to + 9
sets +6 to +8

silk + suns > any hybrid or build

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:40 pm 
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ive got a lvl 100 hybrid bow 70:70 fufa

i get 1nuke killed by any lvl 100 nuker / wizard
i got no prem + , no sun

thats the only reason i get my ass handed so easily

conclusion : dont search for a good build, just buy prem+, devil spirit A, dmg scrolls & suns (magic pop)

ps : make sure ur sun set is +7 and sun weap +10

the average weapon + on my server is +7 to + 9
sets +6 to +8

silk + suns > any hybrid or build


thats not true. im sure there are plenty of players out there WITHOUT sun that could beat people with sun in a fair 1v1 pvp.

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
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selenne wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
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I am a lvl 92 hyb str bow, and im doin very well. my lack of hp is smaller than the gains with mp, snow shield and damage. Force builds are the only ones to give me problems at pvp, cuz im gapping and im too lazy to buy special pills.


Special pills are useless if you got someone who knows how to use his force lol >.> It's like throwing away money x.X



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Only idiots put all 4 stats on their opponent at once...If they heal impotent I can put div/decay and if they heal those I put impotent. And believe me, unless they get lucky with several kb's/blocks or kd's I don't need more then 20 secs to kill someone with div/decay ;)

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
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Wait till Stun comes out.
With that cooldown and that cast speed. Force being OverPowered is then Official.

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 Post subject: Re: ECSRO - Hybrid Str Bowman
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:55 am 
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soon the weekend is coming and i will have more free time ( i always post here form work ).
I will try put some pictures whit my stats , and some pcitures while pvp ...for example damage done to a lvl 76/77/78.
U can judge by that how much damage i do .
I don;t know how to make a movie . Post a link here and i will try to make one.( to busy to use search fuction..i am at work )

Crticals are the same as a full str because my overall damaga is higher then str.
At lvl 76 i have 12k HP and 7-8K MP ..whit some str/ int here ant there and NO MP OR HP increase/
At 76 a full str has like 15-16k HP ? whit strong bow i do like 7-8K normal dmg to him and 10-11 in critical, plus the Antidevil skill in critical does like 8-9K so i dont realy need to get crt on strong bow .

PS i am not a noob i have played this game right before 2 months of 90 cap release.

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