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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:25 pm 
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full int warrior :P , if hs will be still lvl3 @ 105 and debuffs will be updated then i can say any force-warlock build :) so imo warrior/warlock or warlock/cleric but if not then warrior/cleric bowers


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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:48 pm 
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Strwarrior wrote:
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If mastery level is increased, force bow/glavie will rape.

Force glavier :love:


WAY too little defense, IMO. No ice, no shield, no certain knockback.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:58 pm 
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Their really is no best but on chinese side I think glavier will get a bit of advantage just like the 80 cap, since New soul departed skill will be gain. New skill that can stun+Emperor (lvl 96) can stun, so chaining 2 skills that can stun will help and if Force tree gets stun at lvl 105 then Force glavier has 3 chances to stun will be very annoying. In the end it comes down to gear/player but glavier will be benefited more imo.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:11 pm 
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Stress wrote:
Strwarrior wrote:
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If mastery level is increased, force bow/glavie will rape.

Force glavier :love:


WAY too little defense, IMO. No ice, no shield, no certain knockback.

wear prots?

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:40 pm 
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wear prots?


Have fun surviving for two minutes against pure INTs with 60% snow. Although... I don't know, it's hard to tell, really.

You have massive HP due to the passive, you also have plenty of extra MP, which Force gives you, so you shouldn't be in MP trouble if you use snow. Also, fire protection gives some magical defense, but I wonder if it's enough.

All I'm talking about is theoretical, I haven't played in a long while, and can't really figure out how hard the average pure INT would hit a glaiver in garms.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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Stress wrote:
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wear prots?


Have fun surviving for two minutes against pure INTs with 60% snow. Although... I don't know, it's hard to tell, really.

You have massive HP due to the passive, you also have plenty of extra MP, which Force gives you, so you shouldn't be in MP trouble if you use snow. Also, fire protection gives some magical defense, but I wonder if it's enough.

All I'm talking about is theoretical, I haven't played in a long while, and can't really figure out how hard the average pure INT would hit a glaiver in garms.

well, i didnt play any force glavier, so i dont really know, but i think it would do ok with snow shield, till the int snow shield run out.. u can kill it, but i didnt play any.. thats what i think >.<

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:03 pm 
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60% snow will never work. i run outta mp with 55% so i use 45%....except in my picture i used it just for the looks lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:20 pm 
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Stress wrote:
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wear prots?


Have fun surviving for two minutes against pure INTs with 60% snow. Although... I don't know, it's hard to tell, really.

You have massive HP due to the passive, you also have plenty of extra MP, which Force gives you, so you shouldn't be in MP trouble if you use snow. Also, fire protection gives some magical defense, but I wonder if it's enough.

All I'm talking about is theoretical, I haven't played in a long while, and can't really figure out how hard the average pure INT would hit a glaiver in garms.


K so I'm a force glaive and nukers are so easy to kill. Tanking 2 min why? They don't have holy spell, you put division on them, hit them 2 times and they woun't have any mp left. And glaive has mag buff that is very helpfull :wink:
Pro is really the way to go for force, the problem in pvp are not ints but str like warriors and bowers.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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Nobody has mentioned the effect that the status stones from Roc mobs will have on choice of builds for 11d. Nice that holy spell may not be strong enough for debuffs, but what if they're combined with a good % from accessories? The stones are only going to become more common as time goes on.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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Bladers are pretty good. They get buffed up a ton over the levels of 70-120. Sure they kill slow, but they do eventually get the kill, and hardly ever die.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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for pros...its always gonna be warrior/cleric or warrior/rogues

for everyone else...anything goes really.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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for pros...its always gonna be warrior/cleric or warrior/rogues

for everyone else...anything goes really.


glaviers also ALWAYS do well too...
theres builds that can kill them.

no matter how great you play a warrior cleric i still think a blader can out pot you.

also all the noobs that play warrior cleric who use skins and bless at the same time leaving them open when they run out -.- easy win for any1

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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glaviers also ALWAYS do well too...
theres builds that can kill them.

no matter how great you play a warrior cleric i still think a blader can out pot you.

also all the noobs that play warrior cleric who use skins and bless at the same time leaving them open when they run out -.- easy win for any1


bladers can never out pot a pro warrior/cleric simply because they will die to dull/bleed -> kd -> triple swing combos or wait til the daredevil double crits.

and as i said...pro players who uses warrior/clerics would do well...not those noobs who just stack on skins and bless then shield trash like a mofo til cooldown.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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60% snow will never work. i run outta mp with 55% so i use 45%....except in my picture i used it just for the looks lol.


Thats because u're a glavier. Str to b exact.
Int base builds hav plenty of MP to spare.

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Full Str Blader or Glavie...
Euro losing ground due to lack of new skills.
Chn will shine as the cap goes up. 330 mastery cap is the shitz.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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wizz/cleric they own any one easy except warriorz and bowers


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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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i remember when everybody used to make fun of bowers. now everybody makes one. argh

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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Warrior/cleric full int. Use axes to stun the enemy and then pure offering. With iron skin and mana skin, don't worry about your hp

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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Warrior/cleric full int. Use axes to stun the enemy and then pure offering. With iron skin and mana skin, don't worry about your hp


Skins disappear if you switch your wep and stun isn't always long enough to cast offering.

But you were probably sarcastic so nvm.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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Pure int bard. Bard/Warrior.

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Those full STR wizard and full INT rogues jokes always give me the laugh.
Hilarious guys, simply hilarious.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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if some1 makes a LEGIT str wizzard... tell me what theyre builds like please?

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if some1 makes a LEGIT str wizzard... tell me what theyre builds like please?


Can't use much skills. Teleport, Bind/Panic, KB skill...

Could work as Warrior/Wizard but would be far from being the best 11D build :P But it would be a low SP use sub at least.


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u can use the skills... just nt very well :)

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u can use the skills... just nt very well :)


You could always get Frozen Spear for the ice effect.


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lol great use that would do whilst running away

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if some1 makes a LEGIT str wizzard... tell me what theyre builds like please?


Can't use much skills. Teleport, Bind/Panic, KB skill...

Could work as Warrior/Wizard but would be far from being the best 11D build :P But it would be a low SP use sub at least.

u can use fear @ ur enemy , use earth barrier, some another skills,


fear > SPAM DD.. lol >.< .
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earth barrier> pvp vs str, thats gonna really make his dmg go down VERY MUCH.
it has some good things.. >.<

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I think ice-fire-glaive with prot will be gr8 but i was think of full int force bow with armor but to sum up all builds i think there is no best build i think if u have a gr8 set u will do well anyway :))

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 Post subject: Re: Best 11D Build
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Strwarrior wrote:
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if some1 makes a LEGIT str wizzard... tell me what theyre builds like please?


Can't use much skills. Teleport, Bind/Panic, KB skill...

Could work as Warrior/Wizard but would be far from being the best 11D build :P But it would be a low SP use sub at least.

u can use fear @ ur enemy , use earth barrier, some another skills,


fear > SPAM DD.. lol >.< .
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earth barrier> pvp vs str, thats gonna really make his dmg go down VERY MUCH.
it has some good things.. >.<


Oh yeah i forgot about Earth Barrier. And oops i meant fear instead of panic.


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All builds are differnt so any build!

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