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lopasas
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Post subject: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:01 pm |
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so basically i was standing at samarkand, minding my own business when i got this:  now, honestly, i didnt use any illegal programs, lol, i wanst using any programs at all, i go take a shit i come back, i got this error, it seems that if im using original sro client n shit, and if i get that error, it means that original is illegal, so you have to use altered? lol fuckin joymax god damn i hate those idiots i just got an idea, you know whenever prem connects, someone gets kicked out of the server? so what if they changed that to this message?what if u get dced from other prem user connecting and u get this i dont know but joymax is a fkin fail and gtfo with your dont like it dont play it, im saying my oppinion here p.s and what the **** is with this new noob style on troy? all high levels wear low level armors pretending to be low levels, and theyre killing noobies
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:06 pm |
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Its new DC message 
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:06 pm |
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almost every1 sow this msg.. Joymax is joymax and traditionally they fcked upsomethin' >.<
usually i see ths msg when i use "Reconnect" optin, then bofore character choose screen appear see this for a moment
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:09 pm |
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lopasas wrote: so basically i was standing at samarkand, minding my own business when i got this:  now, honestly, i didnt use any illegal programs, lol, i wanst using any programs at all, i go take a shit i come back, i got this error, it seems that if im using original sro client n shit, and if i get that error, it means that original is illegal, so you have to use altered? lol fuckin joymax god damn i hate those idiots i just got an idea, you know whenever prem connects, someone gets kicked out of the server? so what if they changed that to this message?what if u get dced from other prem user connecting and u get this i dont know but joymax is a fkin fail and gtfo with your dont like it dont play it, im saying my oppinion here alot believe this is the new standard dc message, but its not. i recieve the original message. are you the only one who uses your pc? did you accidentally search for, download, install, and run an illegal program? im kidding, i get this error all the time, but i do seriously get the original message also. it seems one is for network disconnection, the other has to do with recieving game glitches and errors.lopasas wrote: p.s and what the **** is with this new noob style on troy? all high levels wear low level armors pretending to be low levels, and theyre killing noobies this sounds like fun.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:19 pm |
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EDIT:
i also experienced that too. last week i disconnected twice. but don't worry,. it is not because of illegal client. i just don't know what cause of that think but im pretty sure it's not related on illegal client.
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Last edited by reyboy7 on Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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lopasas
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:23 pm |
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reyboy7 wrote: i also experienced that too. last week i disconnected twice. but don't worry,. it is not because of illegal client. i just don't what cause of that think but im pretty sure it's related on illegal client. can someone translate this for me please? xD "it is not because of illegal client" "but im pretty sure it's related on illegal client" mmmmeh.... again, i didnt use anything lol wonder if its in pk2 files, maybe its possible to find out when the message appears
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lopasas
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:35 pm |
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this is fkin unbelievable, now im in npc shop and i cant quit, cant do shit, great have to relog again joymax tnx again
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:58 pm |
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reyboy7 wrote: i also experienced that too. last week i disconnected twice. but don't worry,. it is not because of illegal client. i just don't what cause of that think but im pretty sure it's related on illegal client. lol phail
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:08 pm |
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My bro told me it's the "new d/c message" In joymax' eyes its impossible to d/c when you're legit *ahum*, so they say you got incorrect file version = pk2/bot/loader. It's just another joymax fail.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:31 pm |
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I have no pk edit , no loader , nothing only pure silkroad original client and i ghet that message very offen .
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:07 pm |
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HOW many times do i have to say this before u guys get it. when a premium user logs on they DO NOT KICK A NON PREMIUM!!!! check rev6. if your a non prem user and its "full" and there are say... 3600/3500 then that means there are 100 people ABOVE the server cap. how hard is that to understand prem users stretch the cap and just push in. i cannot believe how many times i have to say this -.- also i cannot see the image 
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:19 pm |
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penfold1992 wrote: HOW many times do i have to say this before u guys get it. when a premium user logs on they DO NOT KICK A NON PREMIUM!!!! check rev6. if your a non prem user and its "full" and there are say... 3600/3500 then that means there are 100 people ABOVE the server cap. how hard is that to understand prem users stretch the cap and just push in. i cannot believe how many times i have to say this -.- also i cannot see the image  If the server cap is 3500, it can NOT go above 3500. Rev6 is NOT instantly updated and is very far from 100% accurate. There is only ever 3500 online at one time.
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lopasas
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:21 pm |
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penfold1992 wrote: HOW many times do i have to say this before u guys get it. when a premium user logs on they DO NOT KICK A NON PREMIUM!!!! check rev6. if your a non prem user and its "full" and there are say... 3600/3500 then that means there are 100 people ABOVE the server cap. how hard is that to understand prem users stretch the cap and just push in. i cannot believe how many times i have to say this -.- also i cannot see the image  say, rev6 refreshes every 5 seconds 100 prem users join at once rev shows 3600/3500 5-15 secs later rev shows 3500/3500 where do u think those 100 players goes? lol
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:46 pm |
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lopasas wrote: penfold1992 wrote: HOW many times do i have to say this before u guys get it. when a premium user logs on they DO NOT KICK A NON PREMIUM!!!! check rev6. if your a non prem user and its "full" and there are say... 3600/3500 then that means there are 100 people ABOVE the server cap. how hard is that to understand prem users stretch the cap and just push in. i cannot believe how many times i have to say this -.- also i cannot see the image  say, rev6 refreshes every 5 seconds 100 prem users join at once rev shows 3600/3500 5-15 secs later rev shows 3500/3500 where do u think those 100 players goes? lol They just need to eat and logs off, very simple. 
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:49 pm |
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Fury wrote: reyboy7 wrote: i also experienced that too. last week i disconnected twice. but don't worry,. it is not because of illegal client. i just don't what cause of that think but im pretty sure it's related on illegal client. lol phail Man i already edit my post... if you got something wrong , why not make some corrections ? Quote: About Incorrect Client error messages and disconnections
Post by (Sparta)morningdew on Aug 29, 2009 03:30 am This is an issue that has been seen internally as well. We are aware of the matter and are working on isolating the problem. Please do not spam the forums with new posts that flame Joymax for the issue. In order to resolve this problem it may take our development team some time to rectify the matter.
Thank you for your cooperation and patience.
-Joymax Moderation Team THIS 
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:58 pm |
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I have not received that message before, weird. Then again, I also make a habit of deleting the SilkErrSender.exe files and clearing the Dump folder. With all the false banning going on, no need to take chances.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:46 am |
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reyboy7 wrote: EDIT:
i also experienced that too. last week i disconnected twice. but don't worry,. it is not because of illegal client. i just don't know what cause of that think but im pretty sure it's not related on illegal client. oh man, you phail again lol.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:04 am |
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Rhe7oric wrote: I have not received that message before, weird. Then again, I also make a habit of deleting the SilkErrSender.exe files and clearing the Dump folder. With all the false banning going on, no need to take chances. Deleting that file will make u safe from false bannings? i didnt know tat ! *deletes it now*
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:27 am |
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Rhe7oric wrote: ...false banning... 
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:45 pm |
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i love joymax
so basically, on acc which had prem, i tried reloging, and i simply got server traffic message it still had few days of prem left, unbelievable, joymax better put a mofokin prem compensation event or smth
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:47 pm |
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lopasas wrote: so basically i was standing at samarkand, minding my own business when i got this:  now, honestly, i didnt use any illegal programs, lol, i wanst using any programs at all, i go take a shit i come back, i got this error, it seems that if im using original sro client n shit, and if i get that error, it means that original is illegal, so you have to use altered? lol fuckin joymax god damn i hate those idiots i just got an idea, you know whenever prem connects, someone gets kicked out of the server? so what if they changed that to this message?what if u get dced from other prem user connecting and u get this i dont know but joymax is a fkin fail and gtfo with your dont like it dont play it, im saying my oppinion here p.s and what the **** is with this new noob style on troy? all high levels wear low level armors pretending to be low levels, and theyre killing noobies Just a thought, but did you download your client directly from joymax.com, or did a friend or some random person on a forum post a link to some "mirror" to download the client? Sometimes I see links being posted on different forums saying it's a faster download than Joymax provides. They might claim it's the official download, but it may be altered. I just have to wonder if all these people who get banned even though they're "not using illegal software" are actually using a client they found through a "fast download" type link outside of joymax.com.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:50 pm |
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well, with the last update jm fked up my zerk, so, have to do all the shit all over again and i dled from the official website, whats with this system anyway? shouldnt it detect illegal stuff immeadiately? instead of just randomly giving dc's to normal players
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:10 pm |
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lopasas wrote: well, with the last update jm fked up my zerk, so, have to do all the shit all over again and i dled from the official website, whats with this system anyway? shouldnt it detect illegal stuff immeadiately? instead of just randomly giving dc's to normal players Depends on how their anti-bot system works. Perhaps it scans your client before and as you are connecting to detect illegal clients or add-on software. However, I'm sure it also monitors activities in the client as you're playing to catch anything it may have missed when you were logging on. I don't know anything about bots or loaders or other stuff, but maybe some of them can be loaded after you've been in the game for some time. The system might not detect the presence of some bots until the bots start actively doing things, rather than merely being present. I don't know. Btw, I'm not accusing or anything. Just talking about it.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:25 pm |
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your client isnt scanned, they cant do that on such a large scale. the "anti bot system" is a LIE!!! they are pretending to ban bots, and they use inactive acounts and stallers as the "proof" that they are banning bots. they used to at LEAST ban gold bots, now they dont even bother... they CANT detect bots, they can only detect impropper packets and opcodes. if someone uses an old bot, they will detect the wrong message sent to the server. thats the only way that they can automatically detect bots. anything else requires employeed bot watchers, and they arent gonna do that.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax anti bot system Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:36 pm |
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CeLL wrote: your client isnt scanned, they cant do that on such a large scale. the "anti bot system" is a LIE!!! they are pretending to ban bots, and they use inactive acounts and stallers as the "proof" that they are banning bots. they used to at LEAST ban gold bots, now they dont even bother... they CANT detect bots, they can only detect impropper packets and opcodes. if someone uses an old bot, they will detect the wrong message sent to the server. thats the only way that they can automatically detect bots. anything else requires employeed bot watchers, and they arent gonna do that. Employed bot watchers, or server-side 'bot watch' scripts run against their database. You (and others) say they "can't" detect bots, just invalid packets, but you don't know that. If a player can sit outside Hotan West Gate and watch bots come out, stop, run, stop, run, stop, run... and identify them as a bot, so can a GM. It would appear the GMs don't do that, but they could. They can also write a script that monitors server-side traffic for any characters that consecutively stop on pre-defined "bot checkpoints" and flag them as a bot for future (or immediate) bans. They don't just have to check for invalid packets. There's plenty of things Joymax could do and I'm sure their programmers are quite capable of it. There may be political, or policy, or other reasons why they are not doing things that way, but it is possible to do. So a blanket statement that they "can't detect bots" isn't really true.
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