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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:33 am 
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Its seem's that eckoro is still not so quite intelligent. ( sorry if i misspelled something , english aint my first language and still learning it )

First of all, you have no knowledge of coding what so ever eckoro. Hex editing , Packet handeling isnt a big task either to be talking.

The percentage on ngsro forums are based upon how good the functions are working. For example the monster "yarkan" lets say it is on 54% complete. How did we come up with that ? Yeah sure is about spawning and movement and w/e it is. But for us to say its complete we like to give it a percantage. For example (again) lets say the mob spawns awsome thats 10% done. Now the mob walks, thats pretty good thats 24% done. but lets say the mob sometimes does not walk , we lower the percantage but since we know that we lowered it down that means something is wrong with it, and we shouldnt really keep on doing any other function till everything currently works at is coded. Thats how we give percent into our stuff. This doesnt go to just mobs it goes to everything.

The team behind this emulator is 10th times more well known than yours. Or my bad, than your 1 man programmer only. And no it is not Ngsro. Ngsro is the main team to use this emulator. But the team it self of coders is not know in sro but in world of warcraft. maybe you should search it up before talking.

Closed beta will occur to ppl chosen. it will start soon. As for donations , who cares we dont need that now. Is pointless. Donations we will ask after open beta is finished. If the server goes public is when we will ask for donations. And thats it.

Ps: its funny how you come and talk trash about other servers. When we have not even said 1 bad thing about esro. You see where im getting with this ? If you dont see it , than u should really quit.



Yes I do not know any knowledge of any coding (Learning C++ for week now), but I work with coders all the time, we have 3 coders actually, one being working on the source, one is working on anticheat launcher, other is researching into map files and developing silkroad viewer which loads the sro map and the game patchhing server.

i would disagree with you there on packet handeling not being a big task, as you seem to only have a few functions if at all, i have around 80% of the silkroad packets all documented and i can tell you that took weeks and weeks of work including parsing. logging on with 3 characters + sniffing all different possibilities and perspectives.

well its funny cause no one in silkroad community has heard of ngsro before, WOW probably yes... but thats a game that has huge development and so many emulators and private servers, and most likely sources available...
its not about "fame", yes we made a mistake making a forum as all people do is whine and dont support the team. development of the server is priority.

i trash talk because i hate seeing people get hacked or scammed cause there so gullible, examples being sunsro and insro. I just like to provide speculation for people on new projects so they have some opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:34 am 
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I dont understand you guys , why are you keep creating this topics, and sites and forums telling us that you guys are working on an silkroad server,for what? to get community to your server?
After the server will be ON i can tell you it will be full in 1 day , because atm no European class server exist.
Look at all private servers they are all full 12/24 ...
And why are you guys work only on server, you guys prefer to work on the site , forums and so on .... for what? work only on the server plzz !!!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:36 am 
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I dont understand you guys , why are you keep creating this topics, and sites and forums telling us that you guys are working on an silkroad server,for what? to get community to your server?
After the server will be ON i can tell you it will be full in 1 day , because atm no European class server exist.
Look at all private servers they are all full 12/24 ...
And why are you guys work only on server, you guys prefer to work on the site , forums and so on .... for what? work only on the server plzz !!!
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lol yeah, then some1 from another server come and argue about future.. lool

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I dont understand you guys , why are you keep creating this topics, and sites and forums telling us that you guys are working on an silkroad server,for what? to get community to your server?
After the server will be ON i can tell you it will be full in 1 day , because atm no European class server exist.
Look at all private servers they are all full 12/24 ...
And why are you guys work only on server, you guys prefer to work on the site , forums and so on .... for what? work only on the server plzz !!!
Nvm this is :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


It's because both of them are fake, they just make nice looking website so people think it's real and get there hopes up so when it comes time to donate, they will have tons of people donate, and then BAM everything will be gone...

I don't even pay attention to any more of these private servers because there's no point in waiting they will never come out, I remember Esro saying it was going to have a beta released a few months ago and NOTHING happened. It's completely fake, honestly mods should just Lock & Delete & Ban any people who make threads like this about a server that doesn't even exist yet, and probably never will, it's just spam.


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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
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sibiumarius wrote:
I dont understand you guys , why are you keep creating this topics, and sites and forums telling us that you guys are working on an silkroad server,for what? to get community to your server?
After the server will be ON i can tell you it will be full in 1 day , because atm no European class server exist.
Look at all private servers they are all full 12/24 ...
And why are you guys work only on server, you guys prefer to work on the site , forums and so on .... for what? work only on the server plzz !!!
Nvm this is :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


It's because both of them are fake, they just make nice looking website so people think it's real and get there hopes up so when it comes time to donate, they will have tons of people donate, and then BAM everything will be gone...

I don't even pay attention to any more of these private servers because there's no point in waiting they will never come out, I remember Esro saying it was going to have a beta released a few months ago and NOTHING happened. It's completely fake, honestly mods should just Lock & Delete & Ban any people who make threads like this about a server that doesn't even exist yet, and probably never will, it's just spam.


We only received one donation and if you want we can close the donations now?

We don't need donations yet.

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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
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Well, this is the only server that didnt want donations, and most fake servers want it, its up to u to understand :P .

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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
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Well, this is the only server that didnt want donations, and most fake servers want it, its up to u to understand :P .

We are trying to create a positive community that can be launched directly into our server when it starts. Instead of announcing our server when it is finished and then having maybe 50% good players join in we are able to concentrate it already now and have an artificial life of our server until it launches. If you agree to this strategy or not is up to yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:20 pm 
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Well, this is the only server that didnt want donations, and most fake servers want it, its up to u to understand :P .

We are trying to create a positive community that can be launched directly into our server when it starts. Instead of announcing our server when it is finished and then having maybe 50% good players join in we are able to concentrate it already now and have an artificial life of our server until it launches. If you agree to this strategy or not is up to yourself.

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enjoying our crippled files?

well all I can say is ngSRO as of present are using very crippled eSRO files, crippled being just the structure and basic movement. We give crippled files to all our new trial coders, as we know its not threat for them to be released as they are basically very weak SREmu Standard with just spawn.

How I know this? I see dayi is mentioned on the team, he was trial while back. So you wont see much from these guys, since these are difficult to work with.

but like I said these guys are fakers.


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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
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but like I said these guys are fakers.


I'd love you to prove that by releasing your server :)

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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:27 pm 
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well if you saw we posted some videos the other day.


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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
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you guys from esro want to prove that you got an server ? and ngsro is fake ?

For what

You dont have an Online server that is working atm so we can call this fake right ?

when any private server will be open then that server will not be Fake till then let`s say you are all `` Fake `` servers :) :P :P :P

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Well, this is the only server that didnt want donations, and most fake servers want it, its up to u to understand :P .

We are trying to create a positive community that can be launched directly into our server when it starts. Instead of announcing our server when it is finished and then having maybe 50% good players join in we are able to concentrate it already now and have an artificial life of our server until it launches. If you agree to this strategy or not is up to yourself.

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hmm ok3 got it , good answer ... then againe good luck with your development and release the server as soon as you guys can.
Ps: Abouth the donations. to finish an server, (you guys that want to create an server) dont need $$ , you only need Smart peoples that work hard :P , and the $$ you will need after the server is 99% finished to buy an pc server to host it.

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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
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well if you saw we posted some videos the other day.

Doesnt prove shit.


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well if you saw we posted some videos the other day.

Doesnt prove anything.

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well if you saw we posted some videos the other day.

Doesnt prove shit.


Completely agree. That doesn't prove anything to me :D

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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
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All ngSRO have ever shown so far
-1 Video (which was infact taken from lyzerks project video, thus stolen)
-1 Login Screen (which you can see is clearly photoshopped, as certain layers overlap that shouldnnt)
-Some Images

All the images show is basic movement, item use and spawned NPCs.
The files they are using are infact eSROs crippled files. These files we give to any trial coder, crippled essentially means everything is removed, we only left movement and spawned NPCs pretty much. So its basically worthless SREmu standard. They are in fact probably very akward for them to work with.

Dayi in fact is in ngSRO team, mentioned in credits, he was a "trial" coder for us, and we gave him crippled files so he could see structure of files.

This team is pretty much noob, and anyone supporting them expecting to see something is too.


Our videos are not fake as even trying to fake something like that in iSRO would be beyond difficult and the time faking something, you might as well do the real thing. We do not ask for donations or registration, we just ask for support, since our project has been going on long so now, surely we would of scammed people now if we wanted to.

ngSRO and things like inSRO pop up out of nowhere using SREmu files to show nooby images of nothing really, and then do a beta, every signs up = accounts possibly emails taken, for nooby people that repeat passwords.


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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:10 pm 
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Eckoro, if NgSro's fake, just leave it. If you prove eSro to be real, trust me, no one will ever even remember this.

Your job's to promote eSro and code it or w/e. Not bash on other seeminglyfake servers.

So, everyone else also, chill. Get back on topic.


we dont really want to promote eSRO "yet" it was a mistake to in he first place, as people dont unbderstand its a development not a server yet. as we know soon as the server will open people will rush to play.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:32 pm 
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All ngSRO have ever shown so far
-1 Video (which was infact taken from lyzerks project video, thus stolen)
-1 Login Screen (which you can see is clearly photoshopped, as certain layers overlap that shouldnnt)
-Some Images

All the images show is basic movement, item use and spawned NPCs.
The files they are using are infact eSROs crippled files. These files we give to any trial coder, crippled essentially means everything is removed, we only left movement and spawned NPCs pretty much. So its basically worthless SREmu standard. They are in fact probably very akward for them to work with.

Dayi in fact is in ngSRO team, mentioned in credits, he was a "trial" coder for us, and we gave him crippled files so he could see structure of files.

This team is pretty much noob, and anyone supporting them expecting to see something is too.


Our videos are not fake as even trying to fake something like that in iSRO would be beyond difficult and the time faking something, you might as well do the real thing. We do not ask for donations or registration, we just ask for support, since our project has been going on long so now, surely we would of scammed people now if we wanted to.

ngSRO and things like inSRO pop up out of nowhere using SREmu files to show nooby images of nothing really, and then do a beta, every signs up = accounts possibly emails taken, for nooby people that repeat passwords.


Sorry to say it but this still doesn't prove anything. Do you want to go around bashing other servers? Then bash them with proves in your hand, like a closed beta or something like that. Not ready for that yet? Then why bother? :P

You cannot prove you have such an amazing coding team as you say until we can experience some of it, not just see it on 30sec videos of an isy that doesn't respond....

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 Post subject: Re: NgSro The Next Generation of SilkRoad Online
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Eckoro wrote:
All ngSRO have ever shown so far
-1 Video (which was infact taken from lyzerks project video, thus stolen)
-1 Login Screen (which you can see is clearly photoshopped, as certain layers overlap that shouldnnt)
-Some Images

All the images show is basic movement, item use and spawned NPCs.
The files they are using are infact eSROs crippled files. These files we give to any trial coder, crippled essentially means everything is removed, we only left movement and spawned NPCs pretty much. So its basically worthless SREmu standard. They are in fact probably very akward for them to work with.

Dayi in fact is in ngSRO team, mentioned in credits, he was a "trial" coder for us, and we gave him crippled files so he could see structure of files.

This team is pretty much noob, and anyone supporting them expecting to see something is too.


Our videos are not fake as even trying to fake something like that in iSRO would be beyond difficult and the time faking something, you might as well do the real thing. We do not ask for donations or registration, we just ask for support, since our project has been going on long so now, surely we would of scammed people now if we wanted to.

ngSRO and things like inSRO pop up out of nowhere using SREmu files to show nooby images of nothing really, and then do a beta, every signs up = accounts possibly emails taken, for nooby people that repeat passwords.


Sorry to say it but this still doesn't prove anything. Do you want to go around bashing other servers? Then bash them with proves in your hand, like a closed beta or something like that. Not ready for that yet? Then why bother? :P

You cannot prove you have such an amazing coding team as you say until we can experience some of it, not just see it on 30sec videos of an isy that doesn't respond....


ivy doesnt respond as we have non mob AI, soon as we finished coding skills to 100% complete with all teh restrictions ands statuses and timing, thats the next thing we will work on. We have been working on everything else if you look at our pictures like guild party academy union etc,


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ivy doesnt respond as we have non mob AI, soon as we finished coding skills to 100% complete with all teh restrictions ands statuses and timing, thats the next thing we will work on. We have been working on everything else if you look at our pictures like guild party academy union etc,


Well that's great! congratulations, but still not enough to be so proud yourself to go and bash others. Not a real product yet.

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ivy doesnt respond as we have non mob AI, soon as we finished coding skills to 100% complete with all teh restrictions ands statuses and timing, thats the next thing we will work on. We have been working on everything else if you look at our pictures like guild party academy union etc,


Well that's great! congratulations, but still not enough to be so proud yourself to go and bash others. Not a real product yet.

me haz to agree, i say server is still at 60%..

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Okay guys.

We closed the donation option now so please stop flaming. We will open the donation option again as soon as the server is up and running.

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Okay guys.

We closed the donation option now so please stop flaming. We will open the donation option again as soon as the server is up and running.

Thats great :) , now eckoro cant say something about scamming people.

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Okay guys.

We closed the donation option now so please stop flaming. We will open the donation option again as soon as the server is up and running.



well it be nice if you got your coders to admit your using our crippled source files. from dayi


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Okay guys.

We closed the donation option now so please stop flaming. We will open the donation option again as soon as the server is up and running.

Thats great :) , now eckoro cant say something about scamming people.

You would think so huh... :roll:

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Okay guys.

We closed the donation option now so please stop flaming. We will open the donation option again as soon as the server is up and running.

Thats great :) , now eckoro cant say something about scamming people.

You would think so huh... :roll:

i though that was enough.. :banghead:

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i though that was enough.. :banghead:


Seems like he can't have enough :banghead:

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http://www.ngfusion.com/sro/index.php?o ... k=register

what did I say... please someone tell me need whats point of having register form before server is open or even close.

We all know the dumb people will register with accounts, emails and passwords linked to other accounts or paypals.

Like I say anything thats asking for donation, register before open is a scam, and fake images, steal other teams videos (prooven). and use source files of other teams origin.


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what did I say... please someone tell me need whats point of having register form before server is open or even close.

We all know the dumb people will register with accounts, emails and passwords linked to other accounts or paypals.

Like I say anything thats asking for donation, register before open is a scam, and fake images, steal other teams videos (prooven). and use source files of other teams origin.


We closed the donations so now you have to whine about something else... pathetic :roll:

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http://www.ngfusion.com/sro/index.php?option=com_user&task=register

what did I say... please someone tell me need whats point of having register form before server is open or even close.

We all know the dumb people will register with accounts, emails and passwords linked to other accounts or paypals.

Like I say anything thats asking for donation, register before open is a scam, and fake images, steal other teams videos (prooven). and use source files of other teams origin.


We closed the donations so now you have to whine about something else... pathetic :roll:


you should have neither up. im just voicing most other peoples opinion. Tell me what use donation(credits) is for, for a project thats not even been long going. tell me what use registration is for if the game is not even near beta or release standard.

trust me those files you using (esro crippled trial files) only has teleport, npc spawn, movement, basic npc dialog. which is only what you show in the pictures. thats no where near beta. if your considering doing beta without skills or even with some. crash crash crash. we have been working on skills in the background for months, they are so complex to get right.


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