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 Post subject: Hmm anyone thought about the purpose of afk daggers?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:42 am 
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We've all seen those lvl 1 daggers that are just standing in random spots in each city. I've been thinking. Has anyone bothered noting their general names? I think JM are logging them on, crowding servers to ensure prem is bought, and than when it's time to show a "massive" bot ban, they will just be banning their own characters. Seems like a very good plan. Crowd the server as much as possible by putting your own characters on them, than when it's time to show your war against bots, simply delete them all and put them on a ban list. Ppl see empty servers for a week or 2 and think you did a great job.

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I'm pretty sure they waste their 3 hours of lvling there. So they won't have any more exp time left. They still lower the avg pt lvl, but they don't lvl up anymore.

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Ah fack, are all my chars afking in town again? Damnit. I spend all day logging in my 3.318 gold bots and this is what I get? :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:58 am 
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Joymax dont have to make fake bots all they had to do is add false clients to the login server. For example report that there are 80 extra connected clients. Just a small fiddle with the login server.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:17 am 
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Joymax dont have to make fake bots all they had to do is add false clients to the login server. For example report that there are 80 extra connected clients. Just a small fiddle with the login server.


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Ah now you're catching on. I've been saying this in many threads.

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 Post subject: Re: Hmm anyone thought about the purpose of afk daggers?
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Someone had told me that those are "elixer bots".

When you go to goldbot sites and buy like 40 elixers, he said they don't bother trading u 40 elixers, they just give you a char.



I think that is close to the case, but they have them logged on so they don't have to spend hours to sign on the characters when someone wishes to buy gold/elixirs

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They still lower the avg pt lvl, but they don't lvl up anymore.


Is this true?

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lol if you go place in town where nobody you will see bots runing to one spot, then you see a stall bot picking up staff, bots drop elixirs and another bots picks it up( i got free elixir that way lol ), then they sale it in stall network, then you buy it, they use the gold that you buy the elixir with to sale to other players which they call "buy gold" my point is your helping bots. We all do it, you wana to stop bots quit buy from stall network!!

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Where is that spot? I could use some free gear :D

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Where is that spot? I could use some free gear :D

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Someone had told me that those are "elixer bots".

When you go to goldbot sites and buy like 40 elixers, he said they don't bother trading u 40 elixers, they just give you a char.



I think that is close to the case, but they have them logged on so they don't have to spend hours to sign on the characters when someone wishes to buy gold/elixirs

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They still lower the avg pt lvl, but they don't lvl up anymore.


Is this true?

Yep, someone from our uni got plvled 1-81 in less than 2 weeks with those chars xD :D

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What do you mean with they don't level up anymore?
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If they stand in town, they dont effect avearge party level, since they need to be in your range to do so (when you are leveling/powerleveling).

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on joymax is not logging in chars to fill the servers.. the gold bots and player bots and clientless do the job of loading up the servers.

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What do you mean with they don't level up anymore?
Can you explain how it works?

Well, if you register an account at cSRO that is under the age of 18, you can only get 3 hours a day normal experience, and the next 2 hours you get half of the experience. If these 5 hours are over you won't get any exp anymore, so they won't level up. The lv1 daggers will stay lvl1.

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If they stand in town, they dont effect avearge party level, since they need to be in your range to do so (when you are leveling/powerleveling).

After they 'wasted' their 5 hours in town, they go to the plvling spot ;)

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All these conspiracy theories are ridiculous. Why would JM need to bother with such a plan when players fill the servers with their own goldbots alone?

If they already wanted to crowd the server, they'd just cheat in the population numbers and increase it to cap without having that many people on. Would waste them less bandwidth than logging chars (making server handle them + running them).

And to find chars to ban they really don't need to waste time to find them. They could have banned all bots and make this game bot-free in minutes if they really wanted.

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ofy1993 wrote:
Someone had told me that those are "elixer bots".

When you go to goldbot sites and buy like 40 elixers, he said they don't bother trading u 40 elixers, they just give you a char.

This might be true but since I have no "thank god" friends who buy Elixers from Goldsites, lulz, this has not been confirmed yet.

He also said it might be goldbots chars just to fill the server cause Goldbot sites selling silk to countries where Joymax does not and when people buy from these sites, they also make money.

That might be a possibility.... Never thought about it that way before but i actually think that's the correct answer.

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Döh.. They are "bankers". They stand in town, and everytime a goldbot returns to town, it gives its gold to that guy. Then it pot up and runs back out again..

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ykz wrote:
What do you mean with they don't level up anymore?
Can you explain how it works?

Well, if you register an account at cSRO that is under the age of 18, you can only get 3 hours a day normal experience, and the next 2 hours you get half of the experience. If these 5 hours are over you won't get any exp anymore, so they won't level up. The lv1 daggers will stay lvl1.

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If they stand in town, they dont effect avearge party level, since they need to be in your range to do so (when you are leveling/powerleveling).

After they 'wasted' their 5 hours in town, they go to the plvling spot ;)


it doesnt work that way they have to be leveling for the 5 hours, it works how prem time works

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it doesnt work that way they have to be leveling for the 5 hours, it works how prem time works

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I'm pretty sure they waste their 3 hours of lvling there. So they won't have any more exp time left. They still lower the avg pt lvl, but they don't lvl up anymore.


I wonder if they have changed it - a long time ago, to assist one of our guildies, I put lvl 1 chars in a party at Roc Mtn. I proved to him that lowering the avg pt level a lot does increase XP. But I never confirmed that a lvl 1 in town would lower the avg party level and increase XP. Has anyone tested that?

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for the last time, im not saying that those daggers chars are in a powerlvl party! they are just wasting their 5 hours and after those hours they go to the plvl party & they are in range then

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for the last time, im not saying that those daggers chars are in a powerlvl party! they are just wasting their 5 hours and after those hours they go to the plvl party & they are in range then


You're not saying they are in a powerlevel party, but:

"they are just wasting their 5 hours and after those hours they go to the plvl party & they are in range then"

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for the last time, im not saying that those daggers chars are in a powerlvl party! they are just wasting their 5 hours and after those hours they go to the plvl party & they are in range then

wasting 5 hours for what, forgive me, im not keen on the exploits that are available to this game. are you saying if they just sit in town for 5 hours they wont level at a plvl party?? if so, why? sorry to seem so nub.

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for the last time, im not saying that those daggers chars are in a powerlvl party! they are just wasting their 5 hours and after those hours they go to the plvl party & they are in range then

wasting 5 hours for what, forgive me, im not keen on the exploits that are available to this game. are you saying if they just sit in town for 5 hours they wont level at a plvl party?? if so, why? sorry to seem so nub.

Well, it is mostly used at ongs. Because in cSRO, there is no such thing as a 11-lvl gap for best exp & sp for the guy that is getting plvled. (Well it sort of is there, but you wont notice it that much). So the lv1 chars level quite fast, thats why they want the chars to not get any exp, you don't want to create a lv1 char every day..

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for the last time, im not saying that those daggers chars are in a powerlvl party! they are just wasting their 5 hours and after those hours they go to the plvl party & they are in range then

wasting 5 hours for what, forgive me, im not keen on the exploits that are available to this game. are you saying if they just sit in town for 5 hours they wont level at a plvl party?? if so, why? sorry to seem so nub.

In Csro you can play 5 hour maximum everyday, when those 5 hours are done the exp/sp/gold gain per kill is cut down by a lot, so they are perfect chars to put in power level party because they level slower.

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Yes, there are a lot of botters and even legits who had stallers, gold bots and daggers.
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Someone had told me that those are "elixer bots".

When you go to goldbot sites and buy like 40 elixers, he said they don't bother trading u 40 elixers, they just give you a char.



I think that is close to the case, but they have them logged on so they don't have to spend hours to sign on the characters when someone wishes to buy gold/elixirs

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They still lower the avg pt lvl, but they don't lvl up anymore.


Is this true?

Yep, someone from our uni got plvled 1-81 in less than 2 weeks with those chars xD :D

VSRO also have those lvl 1 chars since u can only play 6 hours per day. Someone got 1,000,000 SP (use both sp ticket and exp ticket) in about 3 days with 4 bards were dlvled 90 -> 1 and 3 wizards were dlvled 90 -> 1 in party. Besides, there are 3 bards lvl 90 outside party (mana cycle for 3 wizards) and cleric lvl 90 (int, str for wizards).

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VSRO also have those lvl 1 chars since u can only play 6 hours per day. Someone got 1,000,000 SP (use both sp ticket and exp ticket) in about 3 days with 4 bards were dlvled 90 -> 1 and 3 wizards were dlvled 90 -> 1 in party. Besides, there are 3 bards lvl 90 outside party (mana cycle for 3 wizards) and cleric lvl 90 (int, str for wizards).

First of all there is no way you can delevel a char back to 1, 10 is the lowest.
Second why would that party party need outside mana buffers? mana orbit is available at 90.
Hard to believe since with a perfect party (3 or 4 power level chars all bards 90+ and level 1 chars to get party level down) never heard anyone get more than 120k sp a day doing 24/7 and you claim they had 1m in 3day with 6 hours playing?

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