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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:33 pm 
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Finally there seems to be some sort of proof ... in the third movie that is. ISY not fighting back pretty much proved to me that this was coded by them and not some video from ksro or whatever.


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full version ftw... >.< , thanks for sharing ^_^


~Edit: in the source, there is pics.. it shows 1x rates >_>

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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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well as you can see the mob AI is terrible and there are not that many mobs. which we will work on soon.

unlike other developers they have worked on this first, however we have worked on things like job, guild, party, skills etc first.

but when we add mob AI it will look more the part...


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What's mob AI?

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wow that was superb you made a fast start :P waiting for beta ^^


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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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5x rates... or im not playing >_< , damn its really gay if it was 1x.. same as isro..

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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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Strwarrior wrote:
5x rates... or im not playing >_< , damn its really gay if it was 1x.. same as isro..




mob AI = Artificial Intelligence


well rates are still undecided and probably wont be till later as we need to consider party mob and tickets unlike 1.091 servers.

it still needs to be challenge and not just a level 100 fest in a week. what we are improved on that iSRO doesnt offer, is good events, active team, no bots, cheaper silk


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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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Eckoro wrote:
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5x rates... or im not playing >_< , damn its really gay if it was 1x.. same as isro..




mob AI = Artificial Intelligence


well rates are still undecided and probably wont be till later as we need to consider party mob and tickets unlike 1.091 servers.

it still needs to be challenge and not just a level 100 fest in a week. what we are improved on that iSRO doesnt offer, is good events, active team, no bots, cheaper silk

i would play if u have really good events, quests have higher rewards.. and some such things.. that can help people leveling faster..

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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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ofy1993 wrote:
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i would play if u have really good events, quests have higher rewards.. and some such things.. that can help people leveling faster..


trust me you will ^^.

The thing that's gonna make eSro magical is not gonna be rates like 50x 40x. It's not gonna be donate 5$ and get to lvl 90. It's gonna be the active GMs., that it's gonna be 100% bot free, and that it's gonna be full ^^

Even if there aren't many active GMs, with the amount of normal players we can have, MANY people will organize pvp events, GW events.

If and when eSro will be realesed, play it. I know you won't regret it :wink:

actually yes, im playing it for sure, but if it came with 1x rates... :banghead:

i just really need more than that..

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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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^I'd appreciate a starter amount of SP (say, 300k) for every new char, so people can at least get to the level they want to farm at without worrying about skills.

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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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10x EXP is still a golden rate IMO. Not to easy, not to hard, doesn't make you want to jam a ice pick down your urethra whilst lvling....

Edit: Do something about SOSUN....


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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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Most of the people jobbing pvping etc. @ cap so please make rates 10x xp 20x sp or sth. like that and people can have more fun :)


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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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5x exp, 7x sp rates for euros, 10x exp, 12x sp for chinese

Hell I iknow im just dreamin

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^That would also be good.

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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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ofy1993 wrote:
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Most of the people jobbing pvping etc. @ cap so please make rates 10x xp 20x sp or sth. like that and people can have more fun :)


Xp 10x? Alright I'll give some numbers since I like numbers a lot :P

In Fembria, there is no Euro. there is no Party mobs. lvl 70 skills.

And how long does it take to cap? 1 month? 2 months max?

On eSro, there'll be Euro. there'll be Party mobs. New skills.

It's pretty obvious that a Euro can lvl lets say what 2x faster then a Chinese.

So if a Chinese can cap in 2 months with 10x, a Euro can cap in one month. Who the hell wants EVERYONE to cap on one month.

Party mobs give about 10x more then normal mobs and are about 3x harder to kill (random numbers).

So if on Fembria you get 30 xp killing 3 mobs, you'll get 100 xp killing 1 mob in eSro cause it's a party mob in the same time :P.

At lvl 80, a Chinese with lvl 70 skills killng a mob lvl 83 takes 10 secs, on eSro it'll take like 3 seconds cause of new skills.

So that makes what, (If it's a Euro);

10x Fembria | 1x eSro
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30 xp killing | 10 xp killing 1 mob.
3 mobs. |
(that leaves us 20 xp behind)
Normal speed. | Party Grinding = 2x Speed
(so 10 xp x2 , leaves us 10 xp behind)
lvl 70 skills | lvl 100 skills, faster killing
(and so that would make it 30 xp).

As you can see, Fembria NEEDS to be 10x. Cause it doesn't have party mobs, it doesn't have Euro, and it doesn't have the latest skills.

On the other hand, eSro is fine with 1x cause it has Euro, meaning MANY parties, and it has lvl 100 skills meaning KB for bows, Chains for bladers and glavies, Snow Shield for all ^^.

:? I hope that made sense, lol :p


If that made sense then people would be able to cap in one month in iSRO? Since it's also 1x....

believe me... if I wanted 1x I would play tSRO long time ago without waiting you esro. It has to be 5x at the very least.

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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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ofy1993 wrote:
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5x exp, 7x sp rates for euros, 10x exp, 12x sp for chinese

Hell I iknow im just dreamin


what use is 5x xp and 7x sxp. that like having 1xp and 1.4sxp rates. You would still have to farm a lot while you stop grinding.

What I have in my mind is more like 1x xp and 3x sxp. So that you can 0 gap to lvl 100 ;). Though, I'm not sure if they'll have it this way though thats the way I would actually like to see it ^^

u still have to gap >_< , u will need some sp to max ur skills >_< , btw, i dont think there will be alot chinese in esro.

i say, 5x xp, 10x sp, so u at least have a small pain farming.. sro deserve it >_<

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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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10x EXP is still a golden rate IMO. Not to easy, not to hard, doesn't make you want to jam a ice pick down your urethra whilst lvling....

Edit: Do something about SOSUN....


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Yea having fun when your left behind and the massive wave of starting players are now 100 and here you are 64..... Cause then the plvling will start in and pow there goes your "fun".


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 Post subject: Re: New eSro Videos.
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I Agree with ofy, but rates cant be 1x >_< , it must be more :S , at least 3x.. or some more.. 5x.. any thing.. but not 1x >.<


and i agree with Autumn too.. rates really cant be 1x.

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LOL you think I want plvling? I did my char on ECSRO BY HAND, I was speaking on behalf of 90% of the SRO community thank you very much, you know for a fact no matter WHAT there will be plvling because people are lazy asses.


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believe me... if I wanted 1x I would play tSRO long time ago without waiting you esro. It has to be 5x at the very least.


First of all, wtf tSro? GMs are thinking about banning foreigner guys from there since it's not really for them. 2nd tSro's servers are DEAD. Fuckin dead. If we didn't even go there, Const, Sam, Jg does not even have 1 person in them. Hotan has 3-4 stall max. I actually npc'ed about 5 elixers you know >->

2nd, eSro's gonna have a lot of events. Quests rewards might be increasee. But what's for sure is, there will be events, xpwise and spwise.

3rd, eSro's sxp rates will be higher then xp rates. One of the biggest problems in iSro is the sp.

4th, eSro will have GMs. ('nuff said here).

5th, the 1xp rates is not for sure. Still, don't depend on it being higher then anything about 5x.

6th, if the servers open on 1x, and everyone comes play, please do tell me your IGN name cause I know you will join it, no matter what the rates are. A server with cheaper silk, active GMs, daily events, sxp rates increased, and NO BOTS will have a huge population. So, tell me your IGN name so I can spam you everyday saying I told you so I told you so I told you so.

Believe me, I know 1x isn't gonna be easy to cap. And I'm 99% sure that I'm not gonna be able to cap, but what I know is, that eSro won't be about getting to 100; It'll be about HAVING FUN getting to 100.


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Yea having fun when your left behind and the massive wave of starting players are now 100 and here you are 64..... Cause then the plvling will start in and pow there goes your "fun".


I've always wanted to say this;

PLVL MY ASS ^^

eSro will not have plvling. There will be a 10 lvl up and down limit for getting xp in parties. So, if your lvl 20 at ongs with a lvl 45 killing them, you wont get exp at all!.

Beat that you fuckin lazy ass plvlbeggers 8)

Oh shit, then my plans for s/s and force glavier and force bower and warrior/lock and rogue/lock and wizard/cleric and warrior/cleric and rogue/warlock and.... etc , is all fail :S lol jk


@AutumnLeaves , he didnt mean u... he meant people beg for plvls >_<

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believe me... if I wanted 1x I would play tSRO long time ago without waiting you esro. It has to be 5x at the very least.


First of all, wtf tSro? GMs are thinking about banning foreigner guys from there since it's not really for them. 2nd tSro's servers are DEAD. Fuckin dead. If we didn't even go there, Const, Sam, Jg does not even have 1 person in them. Hotan has 3-4 stall max. I actually npc'ed about 5 elixers you know >->

2nd, eSro's gonna have a lot of events. Quests rewards might be increasee. But what's for sure is, there will be events, xpwise and spwise.

3rd, eSro's sxp rates will be higher then xp rates. One of the biggest problems in iSro is the sp.

4th, eSro will have GMs. ('nuff said here).

5th, the 1xp rates is not for sure. Still, don't depend on it being higher then anything about 5x.

6th, if the servers open on 1x, and everyone comes play, please do tell me your IGN name cause I know you will join it, no matter what the rates are. A server with cheaper silk, active GMs, daily events, sxp rates increased, and NO BOTS will have a huge population. So, tell me your IGN name so I can spam you everyday saying I told you so I told you so I told you so.

Believe me, I know 1x isn't gonna be easy to cap. And I'm 99% sure that I'm not gonna be able to cap, but what I know is, that eSro won't be about getting to 100; It'll be about HAVING FUN getting to 100.


Lol, first thing I would expect from someone representing a game is a respectful person, but you seem to have left it all I don't know where (If you have nothing to do with esro team then my bad in advance)

Second, you don't know me and you can't speak on behalf of me. If I say I won't play on a 1x server is because I won't. New skills? I don't care. Euro? I don't like. I have my VIP account for having fun, thanks.

I have to give you the more sp than exp thing. It'd be so farking amazing, but still not enough to get me there, specially when I can 5 gap all the way on VIP and lvl way faster than a 1x server, getting all the sp I need.

It's not about getting to cap instantly, but also not about taking 2 years to get there for a person that has university and work like me. Even 3x would be fine, but never 1x.

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Lol, first thing I would expect from someone representing a game is a respectful person, but you seem to have left it all I don't know where (If you have nothing to do with esro team then my bad in advance)

Second, you don't know me and you can't speak on behalf of me. If I say I won't play on a 1x server is because I won't. New skills? I don't care. Euro? I don't like. I have my VIP account for having fun, thanks.

I have to give you the more sp than exp thing. It'd be so farking amazing, but still not enough to get me there, specially when I can 5 gap all the way on VIP and lvl way faster than a 1x server, getting all the sp I need.

It's not about getting to cap instantly, but also not about taking 2 years to get there for a person that has university and work like me. Even 3x would be fine, but never 1x.


my apologiez if I sounded disrespectful. I'm not on the eSro team, the guy who's coding is a guidmate :p thats all.

And not being able to cap in 2 years, I know it's gonna suck. Trust me, on a 0 gap with a daily of 2-3 hours of playing you can cap under a year. On iSro, someone lvled from 1-90 on a 0 gap in 2 months with an avg of 5 hours/day. He was pfarmed for the sp. And lets say what on eSro, lvl 100 in 3 - 5 months with a daily 3-5 hours? Sounds about right to me.

I know it's gonna suck not capping so I still have doubts about playing Sro at all :p. Sro's problem is it needs shitload of xp. Making the rates 100x can't change the game the way it is. The only reason I'm waiting for this game cause I love the guild and my guildies that we're gonna make in it. If that's not there, I wouldn't even bother at all.


Now that sounds more reasonable :)

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lmfao...I still hear a whole lot of talking goin on...and not much else.

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i would like to at least not farm as much (more sp per exp) because i was going to make a blader (hybrid yes i'm that cool) and well i would like it somewhat easy >.>

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Anyways.. if this ever came, im making a Warrior/Cleric or Warrior/Warlock... if Holy word was 100% u know what im gonna do, if it was 50% , so i will be warrior/lock

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Getting to lvl100 with 10x rates will take at least 2 months for someone who plays a LOT (ie 3 hours a day) already ... making it less than 10x rates would spoil all the fun :/


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Getting to lvl100 with 10x rates will take at least 2 months for someone who plays a LOT (ie 3 hours a day) already ... making it less than 10x rates would spoil all the fun :/

i would say 5x ~ 10x, Why? because i wanna reach cap and have fun.. playing sro is fun.

anyways.. i see 5x wise choice, why? because i dont want some people that are lvl 100, and they dont have real experience about sro.

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