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 Post subject: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:13 pm 
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Hello all, I got a chinese char with 1m SP, Im between an archer or a blader.
I need the best build for PVP, I love archers but everybody say that blader re the strongest build at this cap, could give me some tips? Im really confused :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:27 pm 
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Go for bow :) If that's what you like then go for it.

If your pure str: Pacheon 100 Fire 100 Light 80 Ice 20 would be the best :D

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
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to me: go for bow if you dont have a pleveler, go for blader if have a plvler (someone help you plvl)

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blader vs bower - blader is pretty strong this cap, but bow is pretty good too, just that you gotta do a lot more works compare to blader, so if you are good with like tactics and stuff, like use firewall, when to run, when to kb, when to switch to shield... etc, then you have better chance of killing the blader :)

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:15 am 
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Blade - PVP
but go for bow if you want to reach the cap..xD

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:41 am 
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first: choose the build that you like the best don't let other people say what you build you should choose :wink:

If your looking for a pure pvp build go blade. They have so many tank ability and they rock with their 73 and 100 chain (status like division, fear, dull, etc.) But they are slow to grind :banghead:
Bow are pretty good in pvp and very good in pve and with their double KB they can knock you back till they are out of arrows :twisted: and the 98 arrow is very nice

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
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Here are some pros and cons of bladers and archers.
Note: I may not get all of them since I don't have too much experience with them.

Blader
Pros:
Has sheild (can block and gives extra defense...and stats when you pimp it)
Good at tanking
Chains give impotent,bleed,division,fear,stun and dull at high lvls
Can kd the enemy and do a quad stab
Great at pvp

Cons:
Not the highest attack
Not that good at pve


Archer
Pros:
Relies on crits
2 kb skills at 100
Good at both pvp and pve (although I would say a little better at pve)
Has strongest chinese attack (strong bow)
High atk rating

Cons:
No skills in wep tree to increase suvivability
Need arrows
Did I say you need arrows?

These are some highlights I could probably think of more pros and cons after watching some pvp vids but these are the basics.

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:42 pm 
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bow they can't touch you with double kb's. and with the crits you can kill anyone. but i guess you can with bicheon too. carrying arrows is not a big deal, especially when ur in a pt with a cleric and bard. i carry 100 hp / 100 mp / 100 pills / 7k arrows. even if you dont have a pt, you'r enot gonna get hit much. Also remember, that FW is mainly based on range attacks. With a bower you'l actually get to kill people when you're trying to destroy the barriers and stuff whereas with the blader you'll be destroying.

I switched from blader to bower and it is the best decision I've made. Oh, and ir you like uniques, my friends 94 bower outdamged my other friends 100 blader at shaitan and got the kill.

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
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nickinvaders wrote:

Cons:
No skills in wep tree to increase suvivability




best survival + for a bower is RANGE


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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
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akjoh wrote:
nickinvaders wrote:

Cons:
No skills in wep tree to increase suvivability




best survival + for a bower is RANGE


range is overrated, since we are in the age of sprint assault.
and ghostwalk makes up for that too.

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
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i belive he is going for the 100 fire 80 light 20 cold build if hes a bower

he has ghost walk too

so ghost walk + range + 2xKB + snow shield

i dont think u need more survivability


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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
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well i think the kb are kind of over rated... here's how i beat it with a 91bich/91cold/91light level 99 full int build... ice wall, nuke, if get kb -> gwalk to them, try to kd with ur kd skills, use kd stab(just 1 skill), icewall right when stab done -> nuke, keep repeating it.. if they gwalk away... gwalk follow them... keep doing it, and of course make good use of their casting time... it seem kinda long for them to cast the strong bow skill... i haven't seen any bower that can give me a hard time... but i must have snowshield on or else i die :P but that's how full int rollz

this is just to give you another thought about bowie build :)

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:39 am 
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sinny wrote:
well i think the kb are kind of over rated... here's how i beat it with a 91bich/91cold/91light level 99 full int build... ice wall, nuke, if get kb -> gwalk to them, try to kd with ur KB skills, use kd stab(just 1 skill), icewall right when stab done -> nuke, keep repeating it.. if they gwalk away... gwalk follow them... keep doing it, and of course make good use of their casting time... it seem kinda long for them to cast the strong bow skill... i haven't seen any bower that can give me a hard time... but i must have snowshield on or else i die :P but that's how full int rollz

this is just to give you another thought about bowie build :)


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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:04 am 
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akjoh wrote:
sinny wrote:
well i think the kb are kind of over rated... here's how i beat it with a 91bich/91cold/91light level 99 full int build... ice wall, nuke, if get kb -> gwalk to them, try to kd with ur KB skills, use kd stab(just 1 skill), icewall right when stab done -> nuke, keep repeating it.. if they gwalk away... gwalk follow them... keep doing it, and of course make good use of their casting time... it seem kinda long for them to cast the strong bow skill... i haven't seen any bower that can give me a hard time... but i must have snowshield on or else i die :P but that's how full int rollz

this is just to give you another thought about bowie build :)


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lol read again... bich doesnt have kb skills :P re-FIXED

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
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i thought u meant , u gonna kd when the other guy ( the one who u are pvping ) uses KB

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:57 am 
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KK thx for replies.
I will go bow, 100 pach 100 fire 80 light 20 cold. I thought 100 pach 100 fire 100 cold but this game without speed is really tired and speed drugs re very expensive.
Now I need some tactics to kill every build, I think firewall is my best friend at PVP to prevent KD + KB, give me some tips please.

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:35 pm 
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Go archer, bladers are pain in the azz for lvling up. Bowers are one of the best hunters.


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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
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100 pacheon 100 heuksal 100 fire

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:09 pm 
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EcsTasY wrote:
100 pacheon 100 heuksal 100 fire

yeah or 80bow 60bich 60fire 60 cold 40 heuksel

100pach/fire 80light 20cold is best for bow imo


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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
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Warlocked wrote:
EcsTasY wrote:
100 pacheon 100 heuksal 100 fire

yeah or 80bow 60bich 60fire 60 cold 40 heuksel <---- lewl I like this one

100pach/fire 80light 20cold is best for bow imo

I was being serious about mine though, dual wep kicks donkey.

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:05 pm 
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yeh dude you should try esctacy's dual weapon build, it sound pretty promising...

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 Post subject: Re: What build I should choose?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:48 am 
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sinny wrote:
yeh dude you should try esctacy's dual weapon build, it sound pretty promising...

It really does, but costs much sp...Bonuses from 80light20cold are mediocre and 100heuskal>80light20cold. U can stun,dull,kb,kb,kb,kb,kb,stun. If the enemy come close to u switch to glavie and attack.glavie attacks with that increased attack rating from blue hawk are pain in the ass. Did I mention the hp increase bonus?


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