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qezue
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Post subject: INT s/s questions Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:33 pm |
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I got a lv 66 s/s nuker (currently on a 9gap) but i need advice about some skills and my build. My build is gonna be 100 bich / 100 light / 100 ice. I went pure int untill now, but i've read some things about hybrid s/s being better. So, should i go hybrid? If i should, how much STR should i add? Will it be very noticable damage- and tankingwise? Also, i haven't leveled the smashing series. Should i start leveling it? I got the chains, but im not sure about those either, are they usefull for an int s/s?
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Pan_Raider(`_´)
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:39 pm |
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i'm not really a friend of hybrid nukers unless they are real hybrids with at least 1:5 int, because the 1:7,1:8,1:9 are only a few lvls of str which really dont make too much of a difference.
Hybrids are better at pvp since they can tank more than pures and are less snow shield dependant. downsides are less damage, but it still is very high.
as for skills
smashing series are optional, since the last 2 books give bleed, but the lvl 73 ascension chain has it too. If you have the spare 80k sp to max out the smashing series, then yes
the last chain 2 chains are very useful, but you will need both 4 and 5 chain for the last 2.
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:45 pm |
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Ok, i think ill skip the smashing series then, because i dont wanna farm that much, ill just stick to the chains. As for the hybrid part. Wont my damage be very low with a 5:1 hybrid considering im using a sword, and a sword is weaker than a spear.
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:54 pm |
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1:5 still has 85% mag. balance it won't be thaaaaat low, but it will be considerably lower, about 15-25% lower. but you are right: you wont hit mobs your lvl or 2 lvls lower with 1 hit. but you will have about 3,5k hp more.
the 1:5 was only my personal fav. for a hyb. its up to you till which extent you hybridize
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:55 pm |
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote: i'm not really a friend of hybrid nukers unless they are real hybrids with at least 1:5 int, because the 1:7,1:8,1:9 are only a few lvls of str which really dont make too much of a difference.
Hybrids are better at pvp since they can tank more than pures and are less snow shield dependant. downsides are less damage, but it still is very high.
as for skills
smashing series are optional, since the last 2 books give bleed, but the lvl 73 lightning chain has it too. If you have the spare 80k sp to max out the smashing series, then yes
the last chain 2 chains are very useful, but you will need both 4 and 5 chain for the last 2. I suggest you get the smashing series...It's really worth it. Since you're going hybrid anyways, I also suggest you go 89 ice/11 fire for immunity (if you can get 20% on all the 4 accessory pieces ofcourse =]
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:24 pm |
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Im still not sure wether to go hybrid or not. Cause i dont even nuke+lion shout mobs 2 levels lower now (64+5 SoS sword, 9gap tho but still..) so when im hybrid ill be dealing even lower damage. And whats so good about the smashing series cause the chains also got bleed?
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:29 pm |
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thats the only reason for it: bleed--> higher damage and damage over time. i think holyword doesnt affect it like dull
otherwise stick to chain.
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:07 pm |
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well...The time it takes for a chain+cooldown is the same as like 3 smashing serie attacks (the 4th one)+cooldown. You get three shots at bleed instead of 1 shot at bleed/division/impotent.
/Edit: And what ^ said, it goes through holy word/spell. So it's more usefull against euro clerics or cleric subbed chars...or annoying Chinese people with the buff -_-
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:04 am |
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I thought i was almost done farming, now I gotta farm even more lol. Ok I think i'll add them. So now i got: smashing series chains shield techniques (only the phy def) knockdown/stab passive
Do i need anything else?
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:29 am |
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don't you ever make ur char hybrid. you will regret if u go lower than 1:8 hybrid. hybrids are good and best char before the update of snow shield. Go Bich/fire/cold maxed at pure int.
cuz i had a friend who is 1:5 hybrid int, he really sucked at pvp even with 1 sun shield and 2 sun prot pcs.he tried sword and spear but he really sucked, that's why he deleted it and made a new char still hybrid but 80:80 archer.
I think 1:3~5 hybrids are for archers.
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 10:41 am |
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My nuker has like +20 base str rest int & i can hold my own againts most char types, admittedly my damage is a tad bit low but that is probably because of the gap 9 i have & the lack of blues on my sword & shield.
The blade force series is pretty good aswell imo but yeah i wouldnt recommend it if your not a fan of farming.
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:07 pm |
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continue pure int... currently it's still possible to play a hybrid bich/nuker... but what after gap 110??
you need 3 skill trees to provide a hybrid nuker...
a pure int nuker does need only two trees you can decide what you want ...
ice/lightning lightning/fire fire/ice maybe bich/lightning.. <--- ridiculous... but not my thing...
I would go for ice/lightning^^
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:47 pm |
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cloud8291 wrote: continue pure int... currently it's still possible to play a hybrid bich/nuker... but what after gap 110??
you need 3 skill trees to provide a hybrid nuker...
a pure int nuker does need only two trees you can decide what you want ...
ice/lightning lightning/fire fire/ice maybe bich/lightning.. <--- ridiculous... but not my thing...
I would go for ice/lightning^^ 110 bich/fire, 80 ice for a hybrid int? (not too hybrid)
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:43 am |
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jyushinshuu wrote: don't you ever make ur char hybrid. you will regret if u go lower than 1:8 hybrid. hybrids are good and best char before the update of snow shield. Go Bich/fire/cold maxed at pure int.
cuz i had a friend who is 1:5 hybrid int, he really sucked at pvp even with 1 sun shield and 2 sun prot pcs.he tried sword and spear but he really sucked, that's why he deleted it and made a new char still hybrid but 80:80 archer.
I think 1:3~5 hybrids are for archers. Ur friend couldn't be tht bad. Cos i also have a friend who is a 1:3 s/s and he's pretty strong (+7 s/s, +5 gear)
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Post subject: Re: INT s/s questions Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:16 am |
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XMoshe wrote: cloud8291 wrote: continue pure int... currently it's still possible to play a hybrid bich/nuker... but what after gap 110??
you need 3 skill trees to provide a hybrid nuker...
a pure int nuker does need only two trees you can decide what you want ...
ice/lightning lightning/fire fire/ice maybe bich/lightning.. <--- ridiculous... but not my thing...
I would go for ice/lightning^^ 110 bich/fire, 80 ice for a hybrid int? (not too hybrid) if you choose to be usefull with partys (job and partyleveling) you should go for pure int with force... but if you want to solo a lot and do pvp alone.. go bich hybrid... but still I don't like hybrids... it's the same with warlock/cleric quite a lot say that warlock/cleric is a fail... ok true if you pvp alone and you don't have any friends... but still I continue as pure int warlock/cleric and soloing with it is cool too. Sadly you get ksed easly if you level only with doting... but I've found a way to stop the ksing thing^^ switch to cleric and offer=murder  (off topic) back to the topic you have four options: 1. go pure int with elements... (great dmg, and quite a lot of nukes) Disadvantag: Only nukes the only defence is snowshield = 2 minutes able to "tank" a little 2. go pure int with bich... (some nukes + bladeskills, with division and impotent on the oponont you'll do some nice dmg...) 3. go 1:8hybrid with bich...(don't know that build...) 4. go 1:8hybrid with spear... (as I know you do nice dmg because of spear... but you'll need a hell good dame set...)
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