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Post subject: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:02 pm |
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so im making a glavie/bow what build should i take on i want my weapons at 90 unless its not that usefull so idk help please and thank yous
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:15 pm |
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I would take glavie till lvl90, u'll have the hp passive max then. Since the bow skills are maxed at lvl80 and the attack rating isn't THAT important, keep bow at 80 Take fire 80 or 90 & that leaves 40 or 50 masteries to lightning.
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:30 pm |
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Jaapii wrote: I would take glavie till lvl90, u'll have the hp passive max then. Since the bow skills are maxed at lvl80 and the attack rating isn't THAT important, keep bow at 80 Take fire 80 or 90 & that leaves 40 or 50 masteries to lightning. As a pure STR (which I assume he is going for), if you reduce pacheon from 90 to 80, it would considerably decrease your damage while using it's skills (10% in this case if I'm not mistaken), so, even though you have a point, it's not actually a good idea to do that. So I'd suggest something like 90glaive/90pacheon/90fire/30light.
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:34 pm |
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raphaell666 wrote: Jaapii wrote: I would take glavie till lvl90, u'll have the hp passive max then. Since the bow skills are maxed at lvl80 and the attack rating isn't THAT important, keep bow at 80 Take fire 80 or 90 & that leaves 40 or 50 masteries to lightning. As a pure STR (which I assume he is going for), if you reduce pacheon from 90 to 80, it would considerably decrease your damage while using it's skills (10% in this case if I'm not mistaken), so, even though you have a point, it's not actually a good idea to do that. So I'd suggest something like 90glaive/90pacheon/90fire/30light. Actually it's 10/190 so 5.3%, idk if u wanna sacrifice 5.3% extra physical damage and few more attack rating for ~10 - 20% extra running speed, 5% extra magical speed, increase of parry ratio (which compensates the loss of attack rating imo) 
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 pm |
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Jaapii wrote: Actually it's 10/190 so 5.3% What? 10/190?  How did you get to that? As far as I know each mastery level increases your damage by 1%.
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:44 pm |
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Well.. I'll try to explain, when u have no masteries, let's say the phy atk power is at 100% when some mastery is at lvl80, it says it increases the phy atk power with 80%, so now the phy atk power in total = 180% right? same for lvl90 => the phy atk power in total = 190% so if u have a mastery at lvl80, u have 180% phy atk pwr vs 190% phy atk pwr at lvl90. so u loose 10/190 of atk pwr, see?
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:51 pm |
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Hm, yeah makes sense. 
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:52 pm |
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so ur making a s/s int a str blade/glaive and a glaive/bow? or you're just making topics for the heck of it? well, w/e.. anyway. glaive bow pure str should be 90 glaive/bow : pure str means you're getting most dmg off weapon trees. 90 is a must 73,80,90 fire : 73 because it gives you max mag buff, and leaves a decent amount of mastery lvl left for light which has phantom,grasswalk,magbuff and parry buffs. 80 because you get the lvl 8 passive, better imbue and still keep buffs maxed. 90 because you're squeeshing every single bit of dmg out of your 300/300 (maxed imbue/buffs). 47,40,30 light: 47 light has decent phantom which can be useful for the bow part, higher parry/magic buffs and lvl 4 passive. it all just keeps going down for 40 and 30 light. sacrificing parry/mag/phantom/speed for extra dmg from fire. 90/90/90/30 - 90/90/80/40 - 90/90/73/47 : your choice! 
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:37 am |
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evilpeta wrote: so ur making a s/s int a str blade/glaive and a glaive/bow? or you're just making topics for the heck of it? well, w/e.. anyway. glaive bow pure str should be 90 glaive/bow : pure str means you're getting most dmg off weapon trees. 90 is a must 73,80,90 fire : 73 because it gives you max mag buff, and leaves a decent amount of mastery lvl left for light which has phantom,grasswalk,magbuff and parry buffs. 80 because you get the lvl 8 passive, better imbue and still keep buffs maxed. 90 because you're squeeshing every single bit of dmg out of your 300/300 (maxed imbue/buffs). 47,40,30 light: 47 light has decent phantom which can be useful for the bow part, higher parry/magic buffs and lvl 4 passive. it all just keeps going down for 40 and 30 light. sacrificing parry/mag/phantom/speed for extra dmg from fire. 90/90/90/30 - 90/90/80/40 - 90/90/73/47 : your choice!  at first i was making a blader/glaive but wanted to pvl for some money my friend is making a ss nuker so thats his topic and now i have finally started to make a glaive bow does fire have to be at 90 max or should i get fire at 88 so i can get phantom walk at lvl 32? or is it that important
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:41 am |
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Glavie/Bow is not a good dual build. Bow is ranged and Glavie is melee. You can take bow though for the attack rating. The build I would go would be 90 heuskal/54 pacheon/66 light/90 fire.
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:43 am |
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Intentions wrote: evilpeta wrote: so ur making a s/s int a str blade/glaive and a glaive/bow? or you're just making topics for the heck of it? well, w/e.. anyway. glaive bow pure str should be 90 glaive/bow : pure str means you're getting most dmg off weapon trees. 90 is a must 73,80,90 fire : 73 because it gives you max mag buff, and leaves a decent amount of mastery lvl left for light which has phantom,grasswalk,magbuff and parry buffs. 80 because you get the lvl 8 passive, better imbue and still keep buffs maxed. 90 because you're squeeshing every single bit of dmg out of your 300/300 (maxed imbue/buffs). 47,40,30 light: 47 light has decent phantom which can be useful for the bow part, higher parry/magic buffs and lvl 4 passive. it all just keeps going down for 40 and 30 light. sacrificing parry/mag/phantom/speed for extra dmg from fire. 90/90/90/30 - 90/90/80/40 - 90/90/73/47 : your choice!  at first i was making a blader/glaive but wanted to pvl for some money my friend is making a ss nuker so thats his topic and now i have finally started to make a glaive bow does fire have to be at 90 max or should i get fire at 88 so i can get phantom walk at lvl 32? or is it that important your choice bro, if you want a nice phantom just pick the build with higher light. i suggested 3 builds, with 3 different levels of fire on each. lower fire = higher light. btw i've tried glaive/bow dual and phantom is really a nice thing to have. especially when you're running low on hp: phantom away, switch to bow (use fire wall if hp is REALLY low) and antidevil, then keep on spamming stun with the glaive. as for the above post, bow isn't really a nice pvp build that's for sure, but as it has been said many times: it's a matter of choice. so if you choose to use bow for pvp then 90 bow is a must! you don't wanna be a sucky bower now wouldn't you? (btw that build he suggested is a nice tradeoff of phy def for attack rating, so bow is high enough for blue hawk, but of course that's a 100% glaive build)
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:25 am |
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Kirkaldi wrote: Glavie/Bow is not a good dual build. Bow is ranged and Glavie is melee. You can take bow though for the attack rating. The build I would go would be 90 heuskal/54 pacheon/66 light/90 fire. shut up, you dont know anything, this is a false comment, ignore it there are no bad builds =o
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:03 pm |
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magisuns wrote: Kirkaldi wrote: Glavie/Bow is not a good dual build. Bow is ranged and Glavie is melee. You can take bow though for the attack rating. The build I would go would be 90 heuskal/54 pacheon/66 light/90 fire. shut up, you dont know anything, this is a false comment, ignore it there are no bad builds =o He is actually right, you can definitely get a more effective build then Glavie/Bow dual... but it comes down to every person playing the build they like (except for those noobs that want the easy way to being the best XD). I'd take Heuskal/Pacheon/Fire to 90, with 30 Light, just buy speed drugs to make up on speed when doing PvP/Job/War (you could buy them for grinding too, or just use the low grass walk you get from 30 Light and save a bit of gold). Anyways, the other guys who posted here gave you nice suggestions so you shouldn't have a hard time making this build 
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:19 pm |
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Macsnow wrote: magisuns wrote: Kirkaldi wrote: Glavie/Bow is not a good dual build. Bow is ranged and Glavie is melee. You can take bow though for the attack rating. The build I would go would be 90 heuskal/54 pacheon/66 light/90 fire. shut up, you dont know anything, this is a false comment, ignore it there are no bad builds =o He is actually right, you can definitely get a more effective build then Glavie/Bow dual... but it comes down to every person playing the build they like (except for those noobs that want the easy way to being the best XD). Kirk is actually wrong and magisuns is correct. And also, the build Kirk mentioned, 90 heuskal/54pacheon/66light/90fire, is simply worthless. About glaive/pacheon, have you imagined how a Strong Bow - Ghost spear combo would work? Imagine if he crits any of these. Or a Strong Bow - Anti Devil Bow - Ghost spear. Maybe Ghost Spear (knockback) or Phantom - Strong Bow - Anti Devil Bow - Ghost spear. Also, Soul Spear (stun) - Strong Bow - Anti Devil Bow - Ghost spear. I don't know, there are thousands of combinations possible, it's nowhere near ineffective. It'd just depend on the skill of the player in my opinion.
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:30 pm |
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raphaell666 wrote: Macsnow wrote: He is actually right, you can definitely get a more effective build then Glavie/Bow dual... but it comes down to every person playing the build they like (except for those noobs that want the easy way to being the best XD). Kirk is actually wrong and magisuns is correct. And also, the build Kirk mentioned, 90 heuskal/54pacheon/66light/90fire, is simply worthless. About glaive/pacheon, have you imagined how a Strong Bow - Ghost spear combo would work? Imagine if he crits any of these. Or a Strong Bow - Anti Devil Bow - Ghost spear. Maybe Ghost Spear (knockback) or Phantom - Strong Bow - Anti Devil Bow - Ghost spear. Also, Soul Spear (stun) - Strong Bow - Anti Devil Bow - Ghost spear. I don't know, there are thousands of combinations possible, it's nowhere near ineffective. It'd just depend on the skill of the player in my opinion. I didn't say the build Kirkaldi mentioned was good, I simply said there are far more effective builds then Glavie/Bow. And yes you do have a point while stating the possible attack combinations available for the build, but that depends also on the person playing it... if your having lag, its shit; if your slow at weapon swapping, its shit; and also depends on your enemy, no matter how may combinations you have to kill him, if he shoots you down before you can perform them, it renders your build useless. Anyways I just said there are more effective builds (dual or not) then this one.
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:38 pm |
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Macsnow wrote: I didn't say the build Kirkaldi mentioned was good, I simply said there are far more effective builds then Glavie/Bow. Neither did I say you said it was good. Notice I said "Also, the build Kirk mentioned, (...)". I didn't assume you said the build he mentioned was good.
And yes you do have a point while stating the possible attack combinations available for the build, but that depends also on the person playing it... if your having lag, its shit; if your slow at weapon swapping, its shit; and also depends on your enemy, no matter how may combinations you have to kill him, if he shoots you down before you can perform them, it renders your build useless. Hence I said: "It'd just depend on the skill of the player in my opinion.". If you are a skilled player I doubt you'll have any kind of trouble to perform them. And any build is rendered useless if you cannot use it correctly.
Anyways I just said there are more effective builds (dual or not) then this one. Not really. Of course, the only build I can think of is heuksal/bicheon, it would be more, hmm, easy to use and therefore more easily effective at 1vs1 pvping, but even then, it'd be a hard fight between these, and there are many other factors in this fight such as equipment, for example. Also, heuksal/pacheon would be far more effective at group pvping than bicheon/heuksal, and the latter one is probably going to do better at 1vs1 pvping. I say no dual build is neither more or less effective in general, it just depends on the situation and on the player.
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:45 pm |
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raphaell666 wrote: Macsnow wrote: I didn't say the build Kirkaldi mentioned was good, I simply said there are far more effective builds then Glavie/Bow. Neither did I say you said it was good. Notice I said "Also, the build Kirk mentioned, (...)". I didn't assume you said the build he mentioned was good.
And yes you do have a point while stating the possible attack combinations available for the build, but that depends also on the person playing it... if your having lag, its shit; if your slow at weapon swapping, its shit; and also depends on your enemy, no matter how may combinations you have to kill him, if he shoots you down before you can perform them, it renders your build useless. Hence I said: "It'd just depend on the skill of the player in my opinion.". If you are a skilled player I doubt you'll have any kind of trouble to perform them. And any build is rendered useless if you cannot use it correctly. Even skill spamming glaviers? :)
Anyways I just said there are more effective builds (dual or not) then this one. Not really. Of course, the only build I can think of is heuksal/bicheon, it would be more, hmm, easy to use and therefore more easily effective at 1vs1 pvping, but even then, it'd be a hard fight between these, and there are many other factors in this fight such as equipment, for example. Also, heuksal/pacheon would be far more effective at group pvping than bicheon/heuksal, and the latter one is probably going to do better at 1vs1 pvping. I say no dual build is neither more or less effective in general, it just depends on the situation and on the player. Anyways, gonna gtfo now... going way off topic here, the kid wanted a Glavie/Bow build, and he got many builds for it so its up to him to choose the mose effective one.
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:51 pm |
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Macsnow wrote: raphaell666 wrote: And any build is rendered useless if you cannot use it correctly. Even skill spamming glaviers? Yes, it's rather easy for a skilled player to make a spamming glaiver completely unable to fight. If you know what I mean. Macsnow wrote: Anyways, gonna gtfo now... going way off topic here, the kid wanted a Glavie/Bow build, and he got many builds for it so its up to him to choose the mose effective one. 
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:13 am |
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Macsnow wrote: Anyways, gonna gtfo now... going way off topic here, the kid wanted a Glavie/Bow build, and he got many builds for it so its up to him to choose the mose effective one. im not a kid =\ but i can switch just fine, i get spike lag sometimes so i dont think i have a problem with that but my biggest question is should i get phantom walk at 32? and if so what should i get to 88? or even 89 and 89 some other mastery?
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:27 am |
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read my earlier post, it mentions phantom, then make your choice. 90->88 fire (im assuming you're going for 90/90/90/30) should be the way to go if you decide to get phantom, don't delvl any weapon masteries AT ALL. personally, i'd do it. 90->88 fire = affects almost nothing, having phantom is really nice tho.
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:16 am |
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evilpeta wrote: read my earlier post, it mentions phantom, then make your choice. 90->88 fire (im assuming you're going for 90/90/90/30) should be the way to go if you decide to get phantom, don't delvl any weapon masteries AT ALL. personally, i'd do it. 90->88 fire = affects almost nothing, having phantom is really nice tho. well you get soul fire force lvl 13 and only 1% phy attk increase from fire passive stick with just 88 fire if you really want phantom
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:13 am |
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Off topic, sorry!
I love your avatar Intentions... it's so adorable, lol.
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:19 am |
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Sae wrote: Off topic, sorry!
I love your avatar Intentions... it's so adorable, lol. lol stay on topic gwad i would love to see a glavie bow but i would think blade bow would be cooler because if you need to tank switch to blade or if you need to do damage bow. or is this just me
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:11 am |
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Lady_Shadows wrote: Sae wrote: Off topic, sorry!
I love your avatar Intentions... it's so adorable, lol. lol stay on topic gwad i would love to see a glavie bow but i would think blade bow would be cooler because if you need to tank switch to blade or if you need to do damage bow. or is this just me Well, It is not as useful as a Glaive Bow. You can Knockback/Stun with the Glaive, and switch to bow and pound on them. If you were blade, you'd be able to KD to get a break and get some hp back, but you could only stab with the blade to do damage in that time. Having the freedom of being able to switch weps on the fly and be able to dish out damage seems more promising to me for a dual build. This would be heaven if they'd add that damn extra skill bar.
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:28 am |
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blade/bow for this skill cap... hmmm nahhh. the thing about blade/bow is that it doesn't give you the chance to maintain a nice and high dps, bow doesn't hit as hard as glaive and blade doesn't hit hard at all. the blade part of a build is totally defensive and a combo starter (kd/stabs), and bow fails to make up for that low dmg (at least at the ecsro's skill cap). if you wanna use bow as a combo starter that means you'll be using kd/stabs alot. you'd be better off as a full blader imo.
i can't think of any good combos with blade/bow, they just aren't compatible. there's no skill that allows you to switch (like heuksal's gsm animation) and you can only see a good switch time after a kb->stab which means you'll be right next to your opponent, making bow pretty gay to use in that situation. might as well get a glaive since you're already close. i'm gonna do a little effort and try to think of a half-good combo.. hmm
combo: start with bow, wall up->spam explosion + antidevil until opponent is close->switch->kd->stabs->phantom away->switch->repeat (skip wall if hp is high)
on the other hand, glaive/bow is kinda different. it uses bow as the combo starter (which, of course, hits harder than a blade), and glaive as a dmg dealer (main weapon in your combo). bow is a good combo starter cuz of the crits and range (first hit-depending who you're pvping), and glaive has a high dps.
glaive/bow combo: it consists of 3 parts, close to opponent and far from opponent combos and the defensive phantom move. all are connected depending on what situation you see yourself at.
Combo starter: 'far combo': spam explosion + antidevil until opponent is close, if the opponent is close, switch and do 'close combo'.
Middle combo: 'close combo': stun until crit->switch->antidevil->switch->gsm (requires perfect timing!). if you kb, switch to bow during gsm animation and antidevil. if the guy lives, phantom move (shown below)
Defensive: 'phantom move': use only if you don't crit and/or the guy lives through the full combo. phantom away. now you can wall up or just start the 'far combo' depending on your hp.
i wish i had my char back i would definitely make a video of this! it isn't that hard really.
---------------------------------- my skill bar would be... X) phantom F1) 1. antidevil, 2. explosion, 3. imbue, 4. explosion(book2), 5. shield (for kd), 6. wall, 7. glaive (item), 8-9-0. pots F2) 1. sss, 2. sst, 3. imbue, 4. gsm, 5. shield (for kd), 6. wall, 7. bow (item), 8-9-0. pots
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Sae wrote: Off topic, sorry!
I love your avatar Intentions... it's so adorable, lol. lol thanks
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:08 pm |
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evilpeta wrote: blade/bow for this skill cap... hmmm nahhh. the thing about blade/bow is that it doesn't give you the chance to maintain a nice and high dps, bow doesn't hit as hard as glaive and blade doesn't hit hard at all. the blade part of a build is totally defensive and a combo starter (kd/stabs), and bow fails to make up for that low dmg (at least at the ecsro's skill cap). if you wanna use bow as a combo starter that means you'll be using kd/stabs alot. you'd be better off as a full blader imo.
i can't think of any good combos with blade/bow, they just aren't compatible. there's no skill that allows you to switch (like heuksal's gsm animation) and you can only see a good switch time after a kb->stab which means you'll be right next to your opponent, making bow pretty gay to use in that situation. might as well get a glaive since you're already close. i'm gonna do a little effort and try to think of a half-good combo.. hmm
combo: start with bow, wall up->spam explosion + antidevil until opponent is close->switch->kd->stabs->phantom away->switch->repeat (skip wall if hp is high)
on the other hand, glaive/bow is kinda different. it uses bow as the combo starter (which, of course, hits harder than a blade), and glaive as a dmg dealer (main weapon in your combo). bow is a good combo starter cuz of the crits and range (first hit-depending who you're pvping), and glaive has a high dps.
glaive/bow combo: it consists of 3 parts, close to opponent and far from opponent combos and the defensive phantom move. all are connected depending on what situation you see yourself at.
Combo starter: 'far combo': spam explosion + antidevil until opponent is close, if the opponent is close, switch and do 'close combo'.
Middle combo: 'close combo': stun until crit->switch->antidevil->switch->gsm (requires perfect timing!). if you kb, switch to bow during gsm animation and antidevil. if the guy lives, phantom move (shown below)
Defensive: 'phantom move': use only if you don't crit and/or the guy lives through the full combo. phantom away. now you can wall up or just start the 'far combo' depending on your hp.
i wish i had my char back i would definitely make a video of this! it isn't that hard really.
---------------------------------- my skill bar would be... X) phantom F1) 1. antidevil, 2. explosion, 3. imbue, 4. explosion(book2), 5. shield (for kd), 6. wall, 7. glaive (item), 8-9-0. pots F2) 1. sss, 2. sst, 3. imbue, 4. gsm, 5. shield (for kd), 6. wall, 7. bow (item), 8-9-0. pots thanks so i dont lose much from fire being 88 then? and would blade really benefit me more than bow?
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:57 pm |
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88 fire is ok. just don't touch those weapon trees. on your other topic i explained blade/glaive in some detail, you'll just have to compare and see what you like most bro. imo, both have good points. blade/glaive can be defensive if you're in trouble and has kd-stab. but bow/glaive has higher dps and ranged hits. i don't see why one dual would be better than the other, if you know how to play it one can be just as good as the other. read up and make a choice, i'm not gonna choose for you 
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:20 pm |
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evilpeta wrote: 88 fire is ok. just don't touch those weapon trees. on your other topic i explained blade/glaive in some detail, you'll just have to compare and see what you like most bro. imo, both have good points. blade/glaive can be defensive if you're in trouble and has kd-stab. but bow/glaive has higher dps and ranged hits. i don't see why one dual would be better than the other, if you know how to play it one can be just as good as the other. read up and make a choice, i'm not gonna choose for you  Absolutely agree.  Reducing those 2 mastery levels in fire is really the most recommended one as you are a STR, and there's not a best dual, it just depends on the person using/skilling it. And about your above posts, evilpeta, just one detail: phantoming away with a lvl 32 ghost walk wouldn't be that helpful as it's rather short. There are quite a lot of different combinations that can be used with dual builds, the person using it can discover and try some by himself, it'd make it even more fun using the build, instead of using some already thought out by someone else. 
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Post subject: Re: [ECSRO] Glaive/Bow Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:44 pm |
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Intentions wrote: Macsnow wrote: Anyways, gonna gtfo now... going way off topic here, the kid wanted a Glavie/Bow build, and he got many builds for it so its up to him to choose the mose effective one. im not a kid =\ No bad intentions meant... but i can switch just fine, i get spike lag sometimes so i dont think i have a problem with that but my biggest question is should i get phantom walk at 32? and if so what should i get to 88? or even 89 and 89 some other mastery? I dont think the phantom walk is worth the 1% increase from fire passive... if you buy speed pots, and have a bows range, it wont really be of importance.
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