Post subject: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:56 am
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So I want to make a S/S nuker! Probably a hybrid nuker. Can someone tell me what str:int ratio would be the best for a hybrid nuker? Also, which build would be good for it? I want light for the speed/teleports but I also want fire for the nukes and imbue. I definetly can't drop cold and bich tho. Discuss please.
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:13 am
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Well the ratio is completely up to you. The more str you put into your char the less damage your nukes will do. But your bicheon attacks will improve as will your hp.
And on the opposite side of this. The more int you have the more damage your nukes will do. Your bicheon attacks aren't as good *difference isn't really that much* and you don't have as much hp.
So it depends on your playing style. If your more of a stand back and unleash an arsenal of nukes on your enemies type of guy then go heavy int hybrid.
If you prefer using the bicheon skills *chains and whatnot* you could go more of a 1:3 int hybrid.
Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:49 pm
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Please, before everyone bases their build on the one from that video, notice that it seemed to me that he fought newbs the entire video, and he had a very good shield, hence how frequently he blocked.
14 lvls of STR at 90 cap = rather close to a 1:5 hybrid int.
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90 fire/bich 60 ice/light, 14 lvls put in str he said.
How would this work for the 100 cap? 40 light?
Yeah.
60cold won't be even nearly as useful for 100 cap as it was for 90 cap. So, I honestly doubt 60cold at 100 cap will do it.
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Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:11 pm
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2:45 BR 16 shield If the lvl 60 cold/snow is not enough then go 70-100 ice 0-30 light. Lvl 30 light you will have 7% Flow Piercing and lvl 3 concentration along with the passive parry ratio. Lvl 20 light will get you lvl 3 must piercing and passive parry.
Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:10 pm
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Cool videos in his channel, he is pretty good, and most of his enemies are newbs. Missed him fighting against s/s nukers, glaivers, euro in general, actually good bladers and spear nukers who didn't nuke half of the time (that hybrid spear with fire doesn't even count). I don't know why but I have the impression that his enemy's equipment weren't as good as his.
I find it odd how he used cold imbue at lvl 60 against that bower, and he apparently did considerable damage (don't remember exactly).
I'm going to watch that video again and see if I can post any more detailed things/conclusion.
For now I can say 1:5 hybrid int s/s does pretty good, and that it's block is very important (rather obvious conclusions).
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If the lvl 60 cold/snow is not enough then go 70-100 ice 0-30 light. Lvl 30 light you will have 7% Flow Piercing and lvl 3 concentration along with the passive parry ratio. Lvl 20 light will get you lvl 3 must piercing and passive parry.
Yes, or instead you could go with weapon/fire/cold all the way, as the 0-30 lightning would change rather little, and the jump to 100 cold physical defense is very big, not to mention frost wall, cold imbue and freezing/frosbiting skills.
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Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:32 pm
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Ok, so if I go 1:5, what should my build be? 100 bich/fire 40 light 60 cold?
Hard to say if you want fire, 60 cold would honestly be too little for 100 cap. I'd suggest 100bicheon/100fire/100cold so you'll have awesome defense and survivability, but you'd lose all the ghost walk and you'd have to buy speed pots to go on trading. Maybe, 100fire/100bicheon/70cold/30lightning, but then lightning would change already pretty little, so instead better go with 100cold. Anyways, the best option in general would be 100bicheon/100lightning/100cold, in garment.
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Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:30 pm
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Ok, so if I go 1:5, what should my build be? 100 bich/fire 40 light 60 cold?
Hard to say if you want fire, 60 cold would honestly be too little for 100 cap. I'd suggest 100bicheon/100fire/100cold so you'll have awesome defense and survivability, but you'd lose all the ghost walk and you'd have to buy speed pots to go on trading. Maybe, 100fire/100bicheon/70cold/30lightning, but then lightning would change already pretty little, so instead better go with 100cold. Anyways, the best option in general would be 100bicheon/100lightning/100cold, in garment.
I had a 1:5 int hybrid s/s back on Oasis, I loved it. I'd say for masteries, for a 1:5 Fire is a must; I'd go with the above suggested mastery plans: 100 Bicheon, 100 Fire, 100 Cold.
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Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:33 pm
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If he's gonna go hybrid s/s I recommend him going 100 fire/bich/ice, fire being he's hybrid and he gets 19% more physical damage with passive and active buffs for his bicheon skills, more magical defense since he's not pure int, and fire shield so he's immune to freeze and other statuses. Yeah I was kinda like wtf? when I saw him using his ice imbue on the guy and doin that much damage.
Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:22 pm
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but why u want to go hybrid,its best to stay full int,so ur dmg will be higher. u can buy devil spirit,its 150 silks and it costs u only 50 silks more to extend it each month. u get 20% more hp and u max out ur gear's str's and hp's and u should have more hp then enough.bit if u want to go hybrid,its ur choice.i would reccomend 100 bich/cold/light or 100 fire/light/cold or u can experiment with 4 masteries and do 100 bich/fire and divide cold light as u wish.most of ppl did cold 40 (crap phy def,but snow 30%)and light 60 (good mag attack buff(15%,correct me if im wrong).so far that build is best,u use fire imbue,which is strongest,u have fire nukes,which are also strongest and best ones,u have bicheon chains,bleed division and impotent,and u have knock down, and u also have snow shield 30% for pvping with str chars up to u what u want to do,hope i helped =))
Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:16 am
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Would light be important for a hybrid nuker? The fire dmg would make up for the piercing force I guess. The only other nice thing to have in there is only the speed and teleport. Fire you get more dmg and some nice variety of nukes. Kinda stuck between light and fire =x
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:04 am
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DrFantasy wrote:
Would light be important for a hybrid nuker? The fire dmg would make up for the piercing force I guess. The only other nice thing to have in there is only the speed and teleport. Fire you get more dmg and some nice variety of nukes. Kinda stuck between light and fire =x
Defiantly go with fire if your a 1:5 hybrid int. The imbue + nukes will make up for not having piercing force.
On a different note: How would 100bich/100fire/88ice/12light work? The 12 light for the grasswalk, it wouldn't be much. But it'd help.
Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:09 am
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Level 88 cold would get you level 11 Might Guard of Ice which is 104 phys defense, level 100 gives you 158 phys defense. If you're going 7:1 or 5:1 you most likely wont need more than level 80 cold and the 50% snow shield it offers or else your MP will be caput and it will cancel any skill you use, 80 also gives you 81 phys def buff.
Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:49 am
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Level 88 cold would get you level 11 Might Guard of Ice which is 104 phys defense, level 100 gives you 158 phys defense. If you're going 7:1 or 5:1 you most likely wont need more than level 80 cold and the 50% snow shield it offers or else your MP will be caput and it will cancel any skill you use, 80 also gives you 81 phys def buff.
U also have to count the passive too. 88 cold with might guard of ice + passive gives 185 phys defense, lvl100 cold with might guard + passive gives 336 physical defense
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:37 pm
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Level 88 cold would get you level 11 Might Guard of Ice which is 104 phys defense, level 100 gives you 158 phys defense. If you're going 7:1 or 5:1 you most likely wont need more than level 80 cold and the 50% snow shield it offers or else your MP will be caput and it will cancel any skill you use, 80 also gives you 81 phys def buff.
U also have to count the passive too. 88 cold with might guard of ice + passive gives 185 phys defense, lvl100 cold with might guard + passive gives 336 physical defense
I had that on my mind and was meaning to post it, but guess slipped my mind at the end ><. Though since he's gonna be hyb he get some phys def from adding str points.
Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:11 pm
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Tasdik wrote:
On a different note: How would 100bich/100fire/88ice/12light work? The 12 light for the grasswalk, it wouldn't be much. But it'd help.
Not really. Too much loss in defense for a rather useless increase in speed.
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Level 88 cold would get you level 11 Might Guard of Ice which is 104 phys defense, level 100 gives you 158 phys defense. If you're going 7:1 or 5:1 you most likely wont need more than level 80 cold and the 50% snow shield it offers or else your MP will be caput and it will cancel any skill you use, 80 also gives you 81 phys def buff.
You don't need to max the snow shield. And going for 20 lightning is useless.
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I had that on my mind and was meaning to post it, but guess slipped my mind at the end ><. Though since he's gonna be hyb he get some phys def from adding str points.
Not like that actually counts here.
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Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:06 pm
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lvl 110 wont come so soon,but we should think now what will we build up,so its easier later.if u do crazy build now with 4 masteries or so,it will be more screwed up later to fix it to be good
Post subject: Re: Yet another S/S Nuker Questions Thread
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:19 am
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zvjerka wrote:
lvl 110 wont come so soon,but we should think now what will we build up,so its easier later.if u do crazy build now with 4 masteries or so,it will be more screwed up later to fix it to be good
Personally i don't think it's worth even thinking about 110 cap. But my build for would probably be 110Bicheon/110Fire/80Cold. Tht way, it's not a huge delvl from Bicheon 100/Fire 100/Cold 100 which would be my choice at this cap.
BTW, My choice for a 1:5 would be Bicheon/Fire/Cold.
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