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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:17 pm 
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BEIJING -- China will continue buying U.S. government debt while paying close attention to possible fluctuations in the value of those assets, a vice governor of Beijing's central bank said Monday.

Investing in U.S. Treasury bills is "an important component part of China's foreign currency reserve investments," People's Bank of China Vice Governor Hu Xiaolian said at a news conference on Monday.

"So as an important component we are naturally relatively concerned with the safety and profitability of U.S. government bonds," Hu said -- a statement apparently aimed at concerns that rising debt to fund Washington's stimulus package could spur inflation and weaken the dollar.

China is Washington's biggest foreign creditor, holding an estimated $1 trillion in U.S. government debt. A weaker dollar would erode the value of those assets.

Hu's comments follow remarks earlier this month from Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao that he was "a little bit worried" about China's holdings of U.S. government debt. Wen called on the U.S. to honor its commitments, remain credit-worthy, and ensure the safety of Chinese assets.

China's investments are likely to be a major topic of discussion when Chinese President Hu Jintao meets with President Barack Obama on the sidelines of an April 2 summit in London of the Group of 20 major economies called to discuss remedies for the global financial crisis.

The meeting will be the first face-to-face encounter between the two men, and a top Chinese diplomat appearing alongside Hu Xiaolian sought to set a positive tone for the talks.

China-U.S. relations have gotten off to an "excellent start" under Obama, Vice Foreign Minister He Yafei said, appearing to rule out any lasting damage from a confrontation earlier this month between Chinese boats and an unarmed U.S. Navy surveillance ship off China's southeastern coast.

China accused the USNS Impeccable ship of operating illegally within its exclusive economic zone, while the U.S. said the Chinese boats had acted dangerously in blocking its passage and later assigned a destroyer to escort the ship.

He said Hu and Obama planned to discuss the global economic crisis, bilateral ties, and regional and global issues such as plans by North Korea to launch missile and Iran's nuclear program.

Despite its massive holding of U.S. government debt, China has given no indication of any preferred changes to Washington's policies, and Hu, the central bank's vice governor -- who is not related to the president -- said China considered U.S. debt a good credit risk, even if market values fluctuate.

Analysts estimate China keeps nearly half of its $2 trillion in foreign currency reserves in U.S. Treasuries and notes issued by other government-affiliated agencies. That has sparked questions within China as to whether the government should continue to buy Treasuries, as well as debate on how Beijing might leverage that to boost its influence over the global financial system.

China's continued purchase of Treasuries helps fund U.S. deficit spending aimed at averting a lengthy recession and helps keeps interest rates low to permit U.S. banks to continue lending.

At April's London summit, leaders are expected to press for an overhaul of international financial institutions to help ward off future crises. That could include doubling the International Monetary Fund's budget to US$500 billion and giving more say to China.

Hu said China supports efforts by the IMF to come up with new ways of raising capital, possibly including the sale of bonds. If bonds were issued, China would "actively consider" buying them, Hu said.


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Despite its massive holding of U.S. government debt, China has given no indication of any preferred changes to Washington's policies, and Hu, the central bank's vice governor -- who is not related to the president -- said China considered U.S. debt a good credit risk, even if market values fluctuate.

Analysts estimate China keeps nearly half of its $2 trillion in foreign currency reserves in U.S. Treasuries and notes issued by other government-affiliated agencies. That has sparked questions within China as to whether the government should continue to buy Treasuries, as well as debate on how Beijing might leverage that to boost its influence over the global financial system.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:22 pm 
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can u explain all this in few words? it mean that china give free money to us without return?i dont understand anything

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can u explain all this in few words? it mean that china give free money to us without return?i dont understand anything


China is buying assets from the U.S. government which in turn cuts around $1 trillion of the $11 trillion(i think) dollars in debt. It is like buying stock for a company almost, when the company is doing poorly but is bound to come back. That is my take on it.

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Ilyas wrote:
can u explain all this in few words? it mean that china give free money to us without return?i dont understand anything


China is buying assets from the U.S. government which in turn cuts around $1 trillion of the $11 trillion(i think) dollars in debt. It is like buying stock for a company almost, when the company is doing poorly but is bound to come back. That is my take on it.


What if USA cant pay China back?
that means china owns part of usa o.o?

Is this what Obama means by halving the National Debt by 2012?, To sell 50% of America to off shore Invenstors?


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What China said, is there going to own us without going to war.. hint buying USA as a way. they other then mayans also said the world will be over(hint a new world order maybe) by 2012. Ppl think they mean the earth will destroyed but its just gonna be china owning the whole world most likely if this ever happens..
They might say 2012 cause obama's term will be over then they can own us because were so far in debt...

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been going on since the problem started.... also people in china disagree with helping US because they believe they are somewhat hopeless and they probably won't get the money back since they did so much risky things
but past history tells us that usually whenever these things happen, they always bounce back, so i don't think china needs to help US and that US well said some* things about them


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been going on since the problem started.... also people in china disagree with helping US because they believe they are somewhat hopeless and they probably won't get the money back since they did so much risky things
but past history tells us that usually whenever these things happen, they always bounce back, so i don't think china needs to help US and that US well said some* things about them



China wants to own us without going to war hint they want to buy us lolllllll

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BlackFox898 wrote:
Ilyas wrote:
can u explain all this in few words? it mean that china give free money to us without return?i dont understand anything


China is buying assets from the U.S. government which in turn cuts around $1 trillion of the $11 trillion(i think) dollars in debt. It is like buying stock for a company almost, when the company is doing poorly but is bound to come back. That is my take on it.


What if USA cant pay China back?
that means china owns part of usa o.o?

Is this what Obama means by halving the National Debt by 2012?, To sell 50% of America to off shore Invenstors?


no, not necessarily, they own stock or shares perhaps in companies, like the banks. The US would have to get real desperate to even think of selling land or bits of the government.

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What China said, is there going to own us without going to war.. hint buying USA as a way. they other then mayans also said the world will be over(hint a new world order maybe) by 2012. Ppl think they mean the earth will destroyed but its just gonna be china owning the whole world most likely if this ever happens..
They might say 2012 cause obama's term will be over then they can own us because were so far in debt...


The idiot award goes to......

BRAGO

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Brago wrote:
What China said, is there going to own us without going to war.. hint buying USA as a way. they other then mayans also said the world will be over(hint a new world order maybe) by 2012. Ppl think they mean the earth will destroyed but its just gonna be china owning the whole world most likely if this ever happens..
They might say 2012 cause obama's term will be over then they can own us because were so far in debt...


The idiot award goes to......

BRAGO



yay might wanna google this stuff before you start giving out awards :D part of its a theroy and the part saying "China wants to own us without going to war" is real thank you freedom and rights of speech goodbye...

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I could care less about that part. Its just the connection between that and 2012 was clutch. I mean, I don't even think Alterran when he was here could have pulled that theory off. But your probably right, google is extremely resourceful now a days. I mean I can now find all of my alien abductions online, I don't have to work hard to find them. Im sorry about calling you an idiot, your def. right.


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in a few years, China to annex the US :P

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Brago wrote:
rumpleKillskin wrote:
Brago wrote:
What China said, is there going to own us without going to war.. hint buying USA as a way. they other then mayans also said the world will be over(hint a new world order maybe) by 2012. Ppl think they mean the earth will destroyed but its just gonna be china owning the whole world most likely if this ever happens..
They might say 2012 cause obama's term will be over then they can own us because were so far in debt...


The idiot award goes to......

BRAGO



yay might wanna google this stuff before you start giving out awards :D part of its a theroy and the part saying "China wants to own us without going to war" is real thank you freedom and rights of speech goodbye...


I've got a newsflash for you: Go to school, learn stuff and stop posting bullshit on forums.

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I don't think he is being serious..... so loosen up guys


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Cant wait till barotrix gets into this topic.

Baro can you post a more simplified version of your non opinion? Sometimes you use words outside of my vocabulary. Im trying to augment my vocabulary atm with 3 words a day xD.

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Cant wait till barotrix gets into this topic.

Me neither, I wonder where he went,


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Cant wait till barotrix gets into this topic.

Baro can you post a more simplified version of your non opinion? Sometimes you use words outside of my vocabulary. Im trying to augment my vocabulary atm with 3 words a day xD.

lol...

you ignant fool, you dont need vocab to survive in the hood bish

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Burningwolf wrote:
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Cant wait till barotrix gets into this topic.

Baro can you post a more simplified version of your non opinion? Sometimes you use words outside of my vocabulary. Im trying to augment my vocabulary atm with 3 words a day xD.

lol...

you ignant fool, you dont need vocab to survive in the hood bish

As you've proven time and time again.

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it jsut means China wants its money in a reliable place. and they think the US dollar is reliable. same with the euro. they believe Us dollars are reliable in circulating around the world.

think of it this way, ppl in south America would rather take US dollars in loans than some otehr small country currency.

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Edit: Woot 5000 post I r awesome nao :wink:


offtopic in offtopic: you got 100 posts in 2 days? dam dude...

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we will see what would happening. USA selling land never the country has too much pride.

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