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Sylus
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Post subject: Chinese builds XD Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:44 am |
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I was just wondering, what is the smallest sp required build for chinese, that miniumly furfills the build's strengths.  I was thinking along the lines of Light/Heskual Getting all light skills and only getting soup departs cheoslm and Ghost departs books.(pure int) 
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:02 pm |
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s/s light 100/ ice 100
--> light: everything except the damn parry buff, useless --> cold: guard of ice, snow shield, passive
total 658 k sp.
minus about 300k from 0 gapping till 100 (without quests)
358k sp
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:28 pm |
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote: s/s light 100/ ice 100
--> light: everything except the damn parry buff, useless --> cold: guard of ice, snow shield, passive
total 658 k sp.
minus about 300k from 0 gapping till 100 (without quests)
358k sp I was more thinking along hte lines of only taking 2 trees to minimise the cost 
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:30 pm |
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote: s/s light 100/ ice 100
--> light: everything except the damn parry buff, useless --> cold: guard of ice, snow shield, passive
total 658 k sp.
minus about 300k from 0 gapping till 100 (without quests)
358k sp But wouldn't it completely suck with no Bicheon? I'm doing bicheon/light/cold 
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:23 pm |
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Sylus wrote: I was more thinking along the lines of only taking 2 trees to minimise the cost  sorry, should've said skill trees= 100 cold/light weapon= sword shield why? shield gives you block and defence, if you were to take spear-> more attack but very vulnerable nukers dont need a weapon tree to kill Dyegov wrote: But wouldn't it completely suck with no Bicheon? I'm doing bicheon/light/cold  sucks pvp yes, your wolf will do 75% of your damage when hitting with sword,even with imbue but the nukes hit as hard as ever its more of a pve build lol
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:44 pm |
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote: Sylus wrote: I was more thinking along the lines of only taking 2 trees to minimise the cost  sorry, should've said skill trees= 100 cold/light weapon= sword shield why? shield gives you block and defence, if you were to take spear-> more attack but very vulnerable nukers dont need a weapon tree to kill Dyegov wrote: But wouldn't it completely suck with no Bicheon? I'm doing bicheon/light/cold  sucks pvp yes, your wolf will do 75% of your damage when hitting with sword,even with imbue but the nukes hit as hard as ever its more of a pve build lol That was more alongm the lines I was thinking Would ice nuke be a 'must'in this build?
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:23 pm |
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Hybrid Spear 100heuk/100fire/70ice/30light or something like that :p
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:45 am |
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bloody wrote: Hybrid Spear 100heuk/100fire/70ice/30light or something like that :p I dont reall think you know what I was asking for I was really asking instead of the old fashion maxing all the masteries as much as possible, you only take 2 trees to make an effective build. 
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:58 am |
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I am currently making a ice light nuker Maxing all light and only defence buffs from ice, might write a guide if it goes well. 
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:35 pm |
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it will be effective trust me, i made one and its doing well and to your question Sylus wrote: That was more along the lines I was thinking Would ice nuke be a 'must'in this build? optional, can be useful if you want to have 2 additional nukes till lvl 60 or you#d only have 1 nuke and 2 lionshouts till 50 otherwise, you can save the sp.
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:46 pm |
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote: Sylus wrote: That was more along the lines I was thinking Would ice nuke be a 'must'in this build? optional, can be useful if you want to have 2 additional nukes till lvl 60 or you#d only have 1 nuke and 2 lionshouts till 50 otherwise, you can save the sp. Optional but still highly recommended. It'll help a lot on grinding, even more because it can freeze and/or frostbite mobs. I really think you should get it as you won't be getting any weapon skills. It surely is worth the SP. By the way, you should get everything in the lightning tree, and from Cold: the physical defensive buff, the passive, the nuke and the snow shield. You could also level the skills from Frost Nova series, they help a lot when in trouble, and they help even at pvp against not immune people.
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:32 pm |
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raphaell666 wrote: Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote: Sylus wrote: That was more along the lines I was thinking Would ice nuke be a 'must'in this build? optional, can be useful if you want to have 2 additional nukes till lvl 60 or you#d only have 1 nuke and 2 lionshouts till 50 otherwise, you can save the sp. Optional but still highly recommended. It'll help a lot on grinding, even more because it can freeze and/or frostbite mobs. I really think you should get it as you won't be getting any weapon skills. It surely is worth the SP. By the way, you should get everything in the lightning tree, and from Cold: the physical defensive buff, the passive, the nuke and the snow shield. You could also level the skills from Frost Nova series, they help a lot when in trouble, and they help even at pvp against not immune people. That was pretty much my plan, minimising the farming to just a 4gap to level Thank you for everyone's input it has helped me alot
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:23 pm |
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Mmm well, my nuker is lvl 35 now, and altough I do have Bicheon, it's really low since I don't actually use it for pve. I'll keep it low for now and try to go with light/cold build. I'm also getting all from light and only ph. deff buff, nuke and passive from cold an I'm doing great! I really recommend you to get cold nuke, it hepls a lot.
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:10 pm |
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Dyegov wrote: Mmm well, my nuker is lvl 35 now, and altough I do have Bicheon, it's really low since I don't actually use it for pve. I'll keep it low for now and try to go with light/cold build. I'm also getting all from light and only ph. deff buff, nuke and passive from cold an I'm doing great! I really recommend you to get cold nuke, it hepls a lot. I have decided to! Would ice wall helpful in this build? eg. Icewall>nuke
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:00 pm |
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Sylus wrote: Would ice wall helpful in this build?
eg. Icewall>nuke Yes, ice wall would be helpful when some mobs gather around and start attacking you, cast it and you'll have some time to kill a few of them before losing HP again (assuming you are fightning physical attacking mobs). But Nukes > Ice Wall, if it was to choose between those to level one. Anyways, I strongly suggest you to take both.
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:41 am |
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raphaell666 wrote: Sylus wrote: Would ice wall helpful in this build?
eg. Icewall>nuke Yes, ice wall would be helpful when some mobs gather around and start attacking you, cast it and you'll have some time to kill a few of them before losing HP again (assuming you are fightning physical attacking mobs). But Nukes > Ice Wall, if it was to choose between those to level one. Anyways, I strongly suggest you to take both. Ops I dont you misunderstood my sign lol. What I ment waas that you could cast icewall, then nuke away. Thanks for the info on icewall.
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:19 am |
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If you have extra sp somehow, either stick it into bicheon or heuksai for their passives.
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:13 am |
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SirSengir wrote: If you have extra sp somehow, either stick it into bicheon or heuksai for their passives. hmm I was thinking of getting the fire tree if I got spare sp, but which is better?
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:33 am |
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Sylus wrote: SirSengir wrote: If you have extra sp somehow, either stick it into bicheon or heuksai for their passives. hmm I was thinking of getting the fire tree if I got spare sp, but which is better? If you intend on leveling a weapon sometime in the future, then you could start leveling it. If you don't, I really think you should put your spare SP in fire. Would you level fire nukes as well? But then if you level either a weapon or fire your build would start seriously consuming SP... If you want to keep it SP friendly you should stick to lightning and cold until you get to a high level and then you decide if you prefer a weapon to increase your 1vs1 pvp capabilities or fire to increase everything else. If you ain't intending on getting the weapon skills, then I don't think it's worth it to increase it only for the passive.
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:58 am |
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Im lv 64 64 Light 40 Ice 20 bicheon, and stil doing great at shakrams. Using spear so i can 1 hit mobs tho.
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:54 pm |
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raphaell666 wrote: Sylus wrote: SirSengir wrote: If you have extra sp somehow, either stick it into bicheon or heuksai for their passives. hmm I was thinking of getting the fire tree if I got spare sp, but which is better? If you intend on leveling a weapon sometime in the future, then you could start leveling it. If you don't, I really think you should put your spare SP in fire. Would you level fire nukes as well? But then if you level either a weapon or fire your build would start seriously consuming SP... If you want to keep it SP friendly you should stick to lightning and cold until you get to a high level and then you decide if you prefer a weapon to increase your 1vs1 pvp capabilities or fire to increase everything else. If you ain't intending on getting the weapon skills, then I don't think it's worth it to increase it only for the passive. Ah ok, once again ty for your detailed input. I am suprised your not a mod yet 
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:06 pm |
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Sylus wrote: Ah ok, once again ty for your detailed input. I am suprised your not a mod yet  Oh, no problem, and thanks ^^. I'm just trying to help anyways, and a mod's role is not just helping, I suppose. And I don't see why I'd in fact need to be a mod if all I want/can do is help others. 
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:41 pm |
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raphaell666 wrote: Sylus wrote: Ah ok, once again ty for your detailed input. I am suprised your not a mod yet  Oh, no problem, and thanks ^^. I'm just trying to help anyways, and a mod's role is not just helping, I suppose. And I don't see why I'd in fact need to be a mod if all I want/can do is help others.  I mean like you always on forums, and helping others. Might as well do alittle extra and get a mod title. 
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:46 pm |
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Just on some weekends I'm active like this. During the week I'm rather busy most of the time. 
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Post subject: Re: Chinese builds XD Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:57 pm |
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O still one of the most helpful person I met sicne I joined this forum 
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