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zShared
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Post subject: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:47 pm |
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Well, as most of us already know - there will be no new pots. How do you think this will effect PvP? Most euro STR use HP / Vigor grains as opposed to pots that chinese use. (Do euro INTs use HP grains? I've never noticed)
Your opinions ?
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:53 pm |
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I see no new pots as a easier way for people to die in PVP, because the pots were so large this cap, everyone had continous cripple fights due to the Immolation skill, with these lower pots for the bigger HP pool, you would have to be more careful and or have a good cleric. This in term will promote a more team oriented style to pvp that has not really fully been realised as of yet.
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:15 pm |
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Hmm for euro INT regular potions are better, heals more. Altough I rely more on my cleric heals, like evryone. Evryone have cleric sub, so you cant see anyone fighthing without healing cycle/healing orbit, at least anyone thats any good in pvp.
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:15 pm |
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pots heal proportionally to max hp/mp also
though chinese might start to use grains soon too or set their auto pot to like 80-90%
grinding for them will be painful also since their imbue+skill will take a lot more mp so panic in pvp will make them switch to grains probably
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:53 pm |
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Well be interesting. Now china cant pot so well, maybe it will even out the fights a bit, or atleast cripple the healing/tankability of warriors/bladers?
I know euro has recovery division, but I swear when I want it to heal that 4 seconds seems entirely to long. Vigor's for the win oO lol
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:30 pm |
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grains always work the same. 25%. so if a euro STR has 46k hp he gets 23k hp back every 4 secs. add the subclass heals and that adds to it. Its what made it possible to avoid skins/bless all the time.
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:52 pm |
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are they gonna introduce medium grains soon?
since the grains are always "(small)"
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:13 pm |
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zShared wrote: Well, as most of us already know - there will be no new pots. How do you think this will effect PvP? Most euro STR use HP / Vigor grains as opposed to pots that chinese use. (Do euro INTs use HP grains? I've never noticed)
Your opinions ? this is the reason, why bladers and glaviers become king of 100cap..archer cant do much but spamm their combos, well i think most of euros plevel chineses for themselves. only buffers stay..as many of us have watched some lv100 csro ksro or jsro pvp videos or job videos..u wont see many euros around.  this is the way joymax earn money.
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:16 pm |
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LightyMighty wrote: zShared wrote: Well, as most of us already know - there will be no new pots. How do you think this will effect PvP? Most euro STR use HP / Vigor grains as opposed to pots that chinese use. (Do euro INTs use HP grains? I've never noticed)
Your opinions ? this is the reason, why bladers and glaviers become king of 100cap..archer cant do much but spamm their combos, well i think most of euros plevel chineses for themselves. only buffers stay..as many of us have watched some lv100 csro ksro or jsro pvp videos or job videos..u wont see many euros around.  this is the way joymax earn money. What the hell are you talking about? Im sure you dont even know what did you wrote and why.
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:47 pm |
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Pfff wrote: LightyMighty wrote: zShared wrote: Well, as most of us already know - there will be no new pots. How do you think this will effect PvP? Most euro STR use HP / Vigor grains as opposed to pots that chinese use. (Do euro INTs use HP grains? I've never noticed)
Your opinions ? this is the reason, why bladers and glaviers become king of 100cap..archer cant do much but spamm their combos, well i think most of euros plevel chineses for themselves. only buffers stay..as many of us have watched some lv100 csro ksro or jsro pvp videos or job videos..u wont see many euros around.  this is the way joymax earn money. What the hell are you talking about? Im sure you dont even know what did you wrote and why. yes. u are a retard who'se brians tells nothing. well listen.. pots recovery hp now slower right? since blader has shield and block, this old pot thing dont affective to bladers like to other builds..it affect most to euros, thats why ppls dont wanna play euros anymore, and wanna make any chinese build suggestly its pure str..shh peace.
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:01 pm |
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LightyMighty wrote: yes. u are a retard who'se brians tells nothing. well listen.. pots recovery hp now slower right? since blader has shield and block, this old pot thing dont affective to bladers like to other builds..it affect most to euros, thats why ppls dont wanna play euros anymore, and wanna make any chinese build suggestly its pure str..shh peace.
No, it's like someone said before. Teamplay PVP will be more of a factor now if you want to survive. A good cleric(s) will be needed pretty much to stay alive.
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:13 pm |
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LightyMighty wrote: yes. u are a retard who'se brians tells nothing. well listen.. pots recovery hp now slower right? since blader has shield and block, this old pot thing dont affective to bladers like to other builds..it affect most to euros, thats why ppls dont wanna play euros anymore, and wanna make any chinese build suggestly its pure str..shh peace.
Retarded? Grow up kido, if you dont have anything smart to say dont try to insult. Pots will affect evryone and not bladers, lmao. Pots will affect evryone the same and euros will be affected the least since all of them using grains already.
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:36 pm |
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LightyMighty wrote: zShared wrote: Well, as most of us already know - there will be no new pots. How do you think this will effect PvP? Most euro STR use HP / Vigor grains as opposed to pots that chinese use. (Do euro INTs use HP grains? I've never noticed)
Your opinions ? this is the reason, why bladers and glaviers become king of 100cap..archer cant do much but spamm their combos, well i think most of euros plevel chineses for themselves. only buffers stay..as many of us have watched some lv100 csro ksro or jsro pvp videos or job videos..u wont see many euros around.  this is the way joymax earn money. There's a low number of euros in those versions because the pot delay is 30 seconds for all I believe.. and I guess that discouraged them from learning about grains 4sec delay o.O Oh and, they're all asian so that might have influenced them to play chinese, maybe Lol. I'm starting to think chinese are taking a step back for 1v1 pvp, I mean.. sure they get new skills, but the pots.. damn, and pure INT won't have 30 fire for immunity, and pure STR won't have 30 ice for snowshield.. most anyway.
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:41 pm |
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zShared wrote: I'm starting to think chinese are taking a step back for 1v1 pvp, I mean.. sure they get new skills, but the pots.. damn, and pure INT won't have 30 fire for immunity, and pure STR won't have 30 ice for snowshield.. most anyway. Most full str gona drop light to 80 and ice 20. I hope they dont since my china is force so I have to go pacheon/fire/force 100
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:57 pm |
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you could go 100 weapon/92 fire/88 light/20 ice
you lose 1% on fire passive -.- (not much), lose about 400 damage on imbue (again not much) you lose about 60 mag def (ok a bit more important but still not too bad)
from light you lose 1m on phantom... speed is still stuck at lv 85
you get snow shield lv 1 from lv 20 ice
or for ints go 100 weapon/100 light/100 ice (not as big of a problem here unless they want immunity, then they can drop ice to 80 and take 20 fire)... not like they can afford max snow shield in pvp
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:09 pm |
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bladers will own. no build can pot as fast and with bladers amount of tank ability, easilly tanking skins/fence/bless... bladers will rape
str bladers. str bladers will own! BLADERS FTW!...wish i had one.
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:24 pm |
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bow will be good tanking with kb arrows... not just to annoy :S
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:26 pm |
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penfold1992 wrote: bladers will own. no build can pot as fast and with bladers amount of tank ability, easilly tanking skins/fence/bless... bladers will rape
str bladers. str bladers will own! BLADERS FTW!...wish i had one. first sane guy in this topic who understand my point  cheers! <3
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Post subject: Re: Pots at 100 cap Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:28 pm |
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-.- wrote: bow will be good tanking with kb arrows... not just to annoy :S as a blader i can tell ya, that bladers has no problems to kill archer since the new combo which give stun dull and fear.  u will see..maybe takes half year im 100lvl lols..but i will make videos..
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