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Which would you prefer for how the premiums work?
500% experience for 1 hour 90%  90%  [ 106 ]
The usual 100% extra experience per hour for five hours 10%  10%  [ 12 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Premiums Poll
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:21 pm 
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Hm Well I already finished all 3 of my quests. But I am a 1 shot Nuker so that's prolly why. Ch Str Builds will have more trouble.

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dude is call take a brake, u dont have to grid all 3hours stright, lol i woudnt main haveing 100% for 5hours, 1hour 500% if your slow killing mobs u srewed, mybe for a pure int is the best but am sure for a pure str glaive or blade aint. and lol joymax woudnt bother giving you more then 3hours and more then 100%.....so good luck with that!

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 Post subject: Re: Premiums Poll
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:53 pm 
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[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
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honestly, who grinds for 5hours straight?
you'd have to be a roBOT in order to do that :roll: :wink:

you know you dont have to grind all of the exp time in a row right>? you can grind for 2 hours, pvp, mabey take a break. take a nap, come back 6hours later and finish the other 3hours.


get a life XD


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Consumerwise, it's the best option.

Joymaxwise, it wouldn't be an option. Basically the longer you take to reach the cap, means the more money you would spend on buying silk. If 1h = 5h, then everyone would be fully using the 1h, however if it's 5h, not many people might be able to finish the 5h, hence you take longer to reach cap.

Nice idea, but for sure it won't be implemented.


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 Post subject: Re: Premiums Poll
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:47 am 
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maybe my math is old, maybe i forgot it but take this into consideration:

- without any prem/ticket let's say you make 500k xp / hour
- with prem+ you make 1mil xp/hour X 5 = 5mil xp
- with this new premium you are talking about you make 500% for 1 hour => 2.5mil xp
So if you want to reach your prem+ daily xp you would have to grind that 500% hour + another 5 hours without any bonus.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:08 pm 
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umeras wrote:
maybe my math is old, maybe i forgot it but take this into consideration:

- without any prem/ticket let's say you make 500k xp / hour
- with prem+ you make 1mil xp/hour X 5 = 5mil xp
- with this new premium you are talking about you make 500% for 1 hour => 2.5mil xp
So if you want to reach your prem+ daily xp you would have to grind that 500% hour + another 5 hours without any bonus.


uh? what?

If 500k exp / hour without prem.... then:
-With normal prem+ 1mil exp per hour for 5 hours = 5mill exp
-With new prem+ @ 500% gain rate per hour = 5mill exp for only 1 hour

1mill exp/12 minutes

Thats all I'm saying here..I don't understand you're math....

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:28 pm 
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Sorry about the double post but some players are thinking that grinding for 1 hour can be more wasteful of a prem ticket than grinding for 5 hours. If you think about it there isn't any difference in loss for grinding a 1 hour vs a 5 hour prem if your grinding patterns are the same.

Your either loosing big but gaining big or loosing less but gaining less which is like saying half dozen bananas vs 6 bananas. It works out to be the same. Most people just think that because you only have 1 hour, if you are not grinding fast they are loosing valuable prem time. The same thing can be said for a 5 hour prem+. They just don't think about it because they see the 5hrs and think Its a lot of time and more time equates to more exp gain. Which isn't true in this case.

Another thing to notice with this new prem is to ask yourself if it is easier to focus for 1 hour rather than 5. Having only 1 hour encourages you to become more focused especially when the gain rate is 500%.

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 Post subject: Re: Premiums Poll
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:46 pm 
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BuDo wrote:
umeras wrote:
maybe my math is old, maybe i forgot it but take this into consideration:

- without any prem/ticket let's say you make 500k xp / hour
- with prem+ you make 1mil xp/hour X 5 = 5mil xp
- with this new premium you are talking about you make 500% for 1 hour => 2.5mil xp
So if you want to reach your prem+ daily xp you would have to grind that 500% hour + another 5 hours without any bonus.


uh? what?

If 500k exp / hour without prem.... then:
-With normal prem+ 1mil exp per hour for 5 hours = 5mill exp
-With new prem+ @ 500% gain rate per hour = 5mill exp for only 1 hour

1mill exp/12 minutes

Thats all I'm saying here..I don't understand you're math....


100% = 500k exp
200% = 1mio exp
300% = 1,5 mio exp
400% = 2 mio exp
500% = 2,5 mio exp/1hour

with premium plus you gain 100% more exp in 5 hours so: 200%*500k*5= 5mio exp/5hours

You gain twice as much with premium plus. But you need to lvl 5 hours instead of 1 hour.

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 Post subject: Re: Premiums Poll
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:37 pm 
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Orotiagito wrote:
I don't know anyone who wouldn't want 500% for 1 hour over 100% for 5 hours.

Only problem would be collecting 500 fruits.

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 Post subject: Re: Premiums Poll
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:16 pm 
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thm_klose11 wrote:
BuDo wrote:
umeras wrote:
maybe my math is old, maybe i forgot it but take this into consideration:

- without any prem/ticket let's say you make 500k xp / hour
- with prem+ you make 1mil xp/hour X 5 = 5mil xp
- with this new premium you are talking about you make 500% for 1 hour => 2.5mil xp
So if you want to reach your prem+ daily xp you would have to grind that 500% hour + another 5 hours without any bonus.


uh? what?

If 500k exp / hour without prem.... then:
-With normal prem+ 1mil exp per hour for 5 hours = 5mill exp
-With new prem+ @ 500% gain rate per hour = 5mill exp for only 1 hour

1mill exp/12 minutes

Thats all I'm saying here..I don't understand you're math....


100% = 500k exp
200% = 1mio exp
300% = 1,5 mio exp
400% = 2 mio exp
500% = 2,5 mio exp/1hour

with premium plus you gain 100% more exp in 5 hours so: 200%*500k*5= 5mio exp/5hours

You gain twice as much with premium plus. But you need to lvl 5 hours instead of 1 hour.



Thx for that correction... ... 2.5mill exp it would be...not 5mill... if the normal is 500k/h then with a 500% prem the total after an hour has passed would be 2.5mill....

So with a regular prem thats at 100%...a player would get 2x500k per hour which = 1mill per hour for 5 hours which = 5 mill exp.

I see what you guys mean now ..sorry my bad....seems its not a good idea after all. Unless this new prem was 1000% (ie 10X) for the single hour.

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 Post subject: Re: Premiums Poll
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:32 am 
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np budo, your ideea isn't half bad.
I think the best solution is somewhere in the middle. I remember my old days lvl-ing up with gold ticket, those 3 hours were intense grinding, joining a 8-man party till i reach the spot so my minutes wont get wasted, good old times :).

5h in my opinion is too much, premium+ should be 3h or 300% instead of 5h-200%; don't get carried away in doing any math - the difference is not that important.

Bottom line, 3h instead of 5 wont drain the fun from the game.
Dont get excited, things wont change, joymax is still a $ hungry corporation and wont change anything untill the servers are less populated => lower profit.

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5 Hours is just too much. They want money, and dont get me wrong they do get it. But 5 hours to grind a day after I already worked 8 hours and make dinner and do other tings I never ever get the 5 hours done. 3 Hours was SO much nicer. With the exp needed per lvl at such an increaseing scale, they will have to introduce another premium. Dont know what the heck they were thinking with the 5hour bs....

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Glavie's Girl wrote:
5 Hours is just too much. They want money, and dont get me wrong they do get it. But 5 hours to grind a day after I already worked 8 hours and make dinner and do other tings I never ever get the 5 hours done. 3 Hours was SO much nicer. With the exp needed per lvl at such an increaseing scale, they will have to introduce another premium. Dont know what the heck they were thinking with the 5hour bs....


So true....There were times when I bought a monthly 3hr/day prem and found myself having 6hrs of prem time on some days because I couldn't play and had to miss a day or so. I can't imagine if it was a 5hr/day prem and ending up with a 10hrs prem time. Whether joymax realizes it or not these kinda things incites botting.....

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If I remember correctly, there is a time limit to how long you can earn experience in the Ksro version of silkroad, and its only 3 hours I think. So they are restricted to 3 hours, and they give us a 5 hour ticket, and unlimited experience gain thru the day. If someone could only grind for 5 hours a day, it would keep the bots from constantly grinding cuz there would be no reason to keep going.

In GW after 3 hours and every hour after that you get a notice: "You have been playing for XX hours please take a break" lol

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