100cap and warlocks

XMoshe · **Posted:** Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:58 pm

VforVendetta wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

VforVendetta wrote:

I have to farm roughly 1,125,500 SP for Full Warrior, (All buffs, 1h Sword, 2h Sword, Dual Axe) and Full Warlock, 90~100. Shouldn't take more than 2 months.

575k a month? That's impossible at 90 lol

I farmed 351K SP at Level 90 with a 9 gap on Lvl 85~87 mobs under a month, it was relatively slow, but I grinded throughout nearly the whole duration of the day, then partied with my union in the evening, now considering I was grinding on mobs lower level than me that was pretty good. At the 100 cap my masteries will be 82, and I will be 91, I will be 9 gapping on monsters 94~96 (Solo), 96~98 (Parties), making it twice as effecient as before, making it possible to get 600k+ SP a month.

Yeah ok...Thought you meant at this cap >.<

thm_klose11 · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 57 **Location:** Germany

XMoshe wrote:

VforVendetta wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

I have to farm roughly 1,125,500 SP for Full Warrior, (All buffs, 1h Sword, 2h Sword, Dual Axe) and Full Warlock, 90~100. Shouldn't take more than 2 months.

575k a month? That's impossible at 90 lol

I farmed 351K SP at Level 90 with a 9 gap on Lvl 85~87 mobs under a month, it was relatively slow, but I grinded throughout nearly the whole duration of the day, then partied with my union in the evening, now considering I was grinding on mobs lower level than me that was pretty good. At the 100 cap my masteries will be 82, and I will be 91, I will be 9 gapping on monsters 94~96 (Solo), 96~98 (Parties), making it twice as effecient as before, making it possible to get 600k+ SP a month.

I think thats not possible. I will make 9 gap at lv 94 and my union will make partys at mobs lv98.... We calculated that I will make 15k sp per day (with prem + sp ticket). So we think that I will make max 450k sp per month. In my opinion, it will be like 300k-400k per month...

RedBlueGreen · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 772 **Location:** England

just farm a new char at ongs in under half the time?

Toshiharu · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4222 **Location:** Nowhere

Ragnorak wrote:

MrTwilliger wrote:

pizzagirl2008 wrote:

they should also increase the cooldowns for those debuffs just to even it up too, maybe a 15 sec cooldown just like chinese force imo.

NO!

The reason chinese debuffs have a large cooldown is that the chinese build doesn't just rely on debuffs. Where the warlock, who's dot's and nukes do incredibly low damage, need these de buffs to maximise their killing potential. Low damage without de buffs, 15 second pot delay, wanna nerf the build even more?

In reality, euros don't have a 15 pot delay when it comes to pvp...~5sec from hp grains, ~5 sec. from vigor grains, ~3 sec. from recovery division, + 15 sec from orbit...rofl. yeah 15 sec delay

Considering every build is a cleric and carries hp/vigor grains.

RedBlueGreen · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 772 **Location:** England

Toshiharu wrote:

Ragnorak wrote:

MrTwilliger wrote:

NO!

The reason chinese debuffs have a large cooldown is that the chinese build doesn't just rely on debuffs. Where the warlock, who's dot's and nukes do incredibly low damage, need these de buffs to maximise their killing potential. Low damage without de buffs, 15 second pot delay, wanna nerf the build even more?

In reality, euros don't have a 15 pot delay when it comes to pvp...~5sec from hp grains, ~5 sec. from vigor grains, ~3 sec. from recovery division, + 15 sec from orbit...rofl. yeah 15 sec delay

Considering every build is a cleric and carries hp/vigor grains.

noob warrior/bard lolers

VforVendetta · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1615 **Location:**

thm_klose11 wrote:

I think thats not possible. I will make 9 gap at lv 94 and my union will make partys at mobs lv98.... We calculated that I will make 15k sp per day (with prem + sp ticket). So we think that I will make max 450k sp per month. In my opinion, it will be like 300k-400k per month...

Well you misread, and you are not sure of my grinding methods, which I assure you, zerking every minute is fast, (Warrior/Warlock). anyway I will be 9 gapping at lvl 91, so the gap between me and the highest level normal monster is 7, not 94 to 98. This is almost double the effeciency like I said, of my last farming endeavour. If I could make 350K SP in under a month, on mobs lower level than me, I will easily make 600~700k SP a month, and with the Chi'In tomb having almost 15 bosses and mini bosses to fight, that sp farming will go faster than before.

pizzagirl2008 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:50 pm

MrTwilliger wrote:

pizzagirl2008 wrote:

they should also increase the cooldowns for those debuffs just to even it up too, maybe a 15 sec cooldown just like chinese force imo.

NO!

The reason chinese debuffs have a large cooldown is that the chinese build doesn't just rely on debuffs. Where the warlock, who's dot's and nukes do incredibly low damage, need these de buffs to maximise their killing potential. Low damage without de buffs, 15 second pot delay, wanna nerf the build even more?

the build is already overpowered...having 1 mastery that can wipe out an entire race and you think it shouldn't be nerfed? the only thing that stands a chance currently is due to holy spell's 100% protection.

if this gets reduced to 50%, then warlock will be owning pretty much anything. a longer cooldown to those debuffs is fair - you still have other things to play with so it ain't nerfed at all...just balance.

MrTwilliger · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 1374 **Location:** Hiding

Ragnorak wrote:

MrTwilliger wrote:

pizzagirl2008 wrote:

they should also increase the cooldowns for those debuffs just to even it up too, maybe a 15 sec cooldown just like chinese force imo.

NO!

The reason chinese debuffs have a large cooldown is that the chinese build doesn't just rely on debuffs. Where the warlock, who's dot's and nukes do incredibly low damage, need these de buffs to maximise their killing potential. Low damage without de buffs, 15 second pot delay, wanna nerf the build even more?

In reality, euros don't have a 15 pot delay when it comes to pvp...~5sec from hp grains, ~5 sec. from vigor grains, ~3 sec. from recovery division, + 15 sec from orbit...rofl. yeah 15 sec delay

Do not confuse skills with pot delay.

A few facts

*Not all warlocks sub cleric
*Not everyone can afford infinite vigors

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:31 am

Cap 100 updates: debuffs resistance tablets and stones (include anti-stun).
I think chinese is more than satisfied with that.

BaronSengir · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 654 **Location:** Earth

NuclearSilo wrote:

Cap 100 updates: debuffs resistance tablets and stones (include anti-stun).
I think chinese is more than satisfied with that.

tablets?

Glavie's Girl · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1464 **Location:**

RedBlueGreen wrote:

just farm a new char at ongs in under half the time?

Sadly this is partially true. -.-'

What is the highest sp we can hold atm? 10m-1 right?

*just for fun*

If 1->90 is 1m
90->100 is 1.2m
100->110 is 1.4m
110->120 is 1.6m
120->130 is 1.8m
130->140 is 2m
140->150 is 2.2m

Meaning a person planning on hitting 150 full farmed would possiably need 10m-1 sp farmed at ongs and the other 1.2m gained just from leveling to get the 11.2m sp needed to be farmed 150. lol

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