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TheSlink
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Post subject: Insane PVP Build... Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:25 pm |
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Ok so i was pvp'ing DW south today, i noticed a 90 FF Force Nuker.. (Light)
I was watching his nukes.. some nailing people with 15-25k a nuke.. bowers.. and glaviers didnt stand a chance..
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People say Fire > Light.. and that 90 Weapon, 90 Fire, 90 Cold, 30 Light is a a build that is stronger that a Light.. however the moving speed SUCKS for grinding.. ( i dont want to start a flame war, whats better fire or light).
So.. how would a 90 Force, 90 Fire, 90 Cold, 30 Light/30 Bich(for first knockdowns/stabs) Would this utterly rape.. with a nice +5 Protetor Set and S/S..?
I strongly think this would be a build.. you wouldnt want to pvp.. if you havent a cleric in your PT.
Tell me your thoughts/opinion.
Thanks =]
TheSlink
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raphaell666
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Post subject: Re: Insane PVP Build... Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:53 pm |
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TheSlink wrote: People say Fire > Light.. and that 90 Weapon, 90 Fire, 90 Cold, 30 Light is a a build that is stronger that a Light.. however the moving speed SUCKS for grinding.. ( i dont want to start a flame war, whats better fire or light). I just wanted to say that that's not entirely true, fire is different from lightning, no one is better than the other. It'd depend on personal preference. TheSlink wrote: So.. how would a 90 Force, 90 Fire, 90 Cold, 30 Light/30 Bich(for first knockdowns/stabs) Would this utterly rape.. with a nice +5 Protetor Set and S/S..? No build "rapes", there's not a best build. But probably the build you mentioned would be very strong. Don't know if it'd be better than lightning/cold/force though, you'd lack shouts but you'd have two-three very strong nukes while lightning would have only one (at any cap higher than 90) in addition to a cold nuke. 30 bicheon is useless, I doubt the knock down skills would ever work in a pvp fight simply because they are too low. 30 light would be by far better for little improve in speed and mag atk.
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YangKang
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Post subject: Re: Insane PVP Build... Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:33 pm |
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For the force INT the build IMO would be 90 fire 90 force 60 ice 60 light. Fire > Light cuz fire casts way faster and thats what you need - dealing fast and big damage. 60 ice should be enough with protector + 60 light gives you a pretty good bonus.
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raphaell666
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Post subject: Re: Insane PVP Build... Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:56 pm |
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YangKang wrote: For the force INT the build IMO would be 90 fire 90 force 60 ice 60 light. Fire > Light cuz fire casts way faster and thats what you need - dealing fast and big damage. 60 ice should be enough with protector + 60 light gives you a pretty good bonus. Hmm, with 60 cold instead of 90 cold you'd lose one nuke, your phy def buff, snow shield and ice wall would lose a lot of effectiveness, and at that cost you'd get a boost in mag dmg which you really don't need (you can debuff), and speed/mobility which imo you don't need either. Anyways, extra def from snow shield and phy def buff you really don't need either because you can debuff, but then at 100 cap that 60light/60cold build would get screwed up. He'd have to change to either 100fire/100cold/100force or 100lightning/100cold/100force. Anyways, that's probably another good choice for this cap.
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XMoshe
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Post subject: Re: Insane PVP Build... Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:33 pm |
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If you're planning on going s/s I'd take bicheon over force lol. But it could work with a spear, but if you don't max ice I'd go a bit hybrid.
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raphaell666
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Post subject: Re: Insane PVP Build... Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:58 pm |
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XMoshe wrote: If you're planning on going s/s I'd take bicheon over force lol. But it could work with a spear, but if you don't max ice I'd go a bit hybrid. I do agree with that, though some people prefer force because the lightning chain has sort of low chances of succesfully debuffing your enemy (20% each debuff iirc), while each force debuff has 80 % chance of working.
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MysticLotus
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Post subject: Re: Insane PVP Build... Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:00 am |
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TheSlink wrote: Ok so i was pvp'ing DW south today, i noticed a 90 FF Force Nuker.. (Light)
I was watching his nukes.. some nailing people with 15-25k a nuke.. bowers.. and glaviers didnt stand a chance..
Now.
People say Fire > Light.. and that 90 Weapon, 90 Fire, 90 Cold, 30 Light is a a build that is stronger that a Light.. however the moving speed SUCKS for grinding.. ( i dont want to start a flame war, whats better fire or light).
So.. how would a 90 Force, 90 Fire, 90 Cold, 30 Light/30 Bich(for first knockdowns/stabs) Would this utterly rape.. with a nice +5 Protetor Set and S/S..?
I strongly think this would be a build.. you wouldnt want to pvp.. if you havent a cleric in your PT.
Tell me your thoughts/opinion.
Thanks =]
TheSlink Remember that there is a light buff that increase your magical damage, while the equivalent in fire is a buff that increase physical damage. Hence slightly weaker light nukes could be complemented with the buff to be stronger than fire nukes If its SS then Light is better than Fire, in most of the case. Hence i would suggest 90Force/90Light/90Ice/30Fire. If its blader, the argument is generally much more complicated... Some ppl would prefer light for speed, some would prefer ice for tank, etc
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nohunta
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Post subject: Re: Insane PVP Build... Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:11 am |
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Ice blader....good idea im makin it next server.
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Ricooo
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Post subject: Re: Insane PVP Build... Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:59 am |
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Force is a really good mastery tree... Obviously he will hit 15-25k, he debuffs the hell out of them.
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XMoshe
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Post subject: Re: Insane PVP Build... Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:01 am |
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raphaell666 wrote: XMoshe wrote: If you're planning on going s/s I'd take bicheon over force lol. But it could work with a spear, but if you don't max ice I'd go a bit hybrid. I do agree with that, though some people prefer force because the lightning chain has sort of low chances of succesfully debuffing your enemy (20% each debuff iirc), while each force debuff has 80 % chance of working. True but you get more phy def (15 sec buff) and the chance to interrupt your enemy with kd's and stab them. Bich/ice/force or what ever on the other hand is just a pure waste so don't think of going that =p I saw a blader with force and damn...He was useless >.<
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