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Polemique
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:08 am |
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I dont know either about Hybrids... then do 70:70 and take spear.
Back to my Heuksal / Pacheon gues, I think first of all I need some more opinions about it. Its for sure that this kind of Build will be ways better at the lvl 100 cap. You can just knockback your enemy with two combos, than take the big arrows and after that switch back to glavie. But in my opinion the Bicheon/Heuksal Char would be better now, and maybe at the new cap too. Dont have a clue about it and it seems that there is nobody who knows anything about a Heuksal / Pacheon build xD It would be unique though
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:15 am |
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i think glavier/bicheon is better than pancheon cuz of the chain debuffs. i think pancheon is a solo weapon build. i've seen pancheon/glavier but its not good.
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Polemique
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:27 pm |
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Well, you all see I am in a long farming period. And so I got bored and thought a little bit to much about what build I´d like and which one not that much. The problem is, I am really not sure, if anyone could recommend me a good strong Build (must be chinese) - I would be very greatfull to discuss it... Polemique
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:45 pm |
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u want a strong and unique Chinese build?
try 1:1 pure hybrid with mastries bicheon/fire 100 and cold60 light 40.
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Polemique
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:06 pm |
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Have you seen such a character allready? I doubt it is that bad, becaue with good equipment it will have a balance of 86:79. But is it really worth trying it  ???
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:22 pm |
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the winner of GNGWC world championship on year 2006 or 2007(not sure which year). The champion was 1:1 bicheon pure hybrid.
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:34 am |
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Polemique I still recommend bich/heuk dual weapon, why did you move off that idea?
If your worried about not being able to pull your glavie out after the stab then dont do it after the stab, do it after stone smash. Its faster and if you do stone smash then you have a chance to put bleed on him, it is also easier to switch to glavie after stone smash, look at my video and you will see me do it alot.
Comparing a dual weapon pacheon/heuksal vs. bicheon/heuksal the bicheon heuksal would win because of the debuffs but that might change at 100 cap because ive heard archers get some debufs as well, you never know
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:47 am |
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blake2 wrote: Polemique I still recommend bich/heuk dual weapon, why did you move off that idea?
If your worried about not being able to pull your glavie out after the stab then dont do it after the stab, do it after stone smash. Its faster and if you do stone smash then you have a chance to put bleed on him, it is also easier to switch to glavie after stone smash, look at my video and you will see me do it alot.
Comparing a dual weapon pacheon/heuksal vs. bicheon/heuksal the bicheon heuksal would win because of the debuffs but that might change at 100 cap because ive heard archers get some debufs as well, you never know no debuff for archer..... only 2 arrow combo which makes knock back. and lv98 strongbow stun.
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:52 am |
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jyushinshuu wrote: blake2 wrote: Polemique I still recommend bich/heuk dual weapon, why did you move off that idea?
If your worried about not being able to pull your glavie out after the stab then dont do it after the stab, do it after stone smash. Its faster and if you do stone smash then you have a chance to put bleed on him, it is also easier to switch to glavie after stone smash, look at my video and you will see me do it alot.
Comparing a dual weapon pacheon/heuksal vs. bicheon/heuksal the bicheon heuksal would win because of the debuffs but that might change at 100 cap because ive heard archers get some debufs as well, you never know no debuff for archer..... only 2 arrow combo which makes knock back. and lv98 strongbow stun. Ok, thanks i want sure. Then i supose pacheon, hueksal wouldnt work. But maybe bicheon and pacheon, you knock them down, do the lvl 90 double stab and then run away and pull out your bow?
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:16 am |
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blake2 wrote: jyushinshuu wrote: blake2 wrote: Polemique I still recommend bich/heuk dual weapon, why did you move off that idea?
If your worried about not being able to pull your glavie out after the stab then dont do it after the stab, do it after stone smash. Its faster and if you do stone smash then you have a chance to put bleed on him, it is also easier to switch to glavie after stone smash, look at my video and you will see me do it alot.
Comparing a dual weapon pacheon/heuksal vs. bicheon/heuksal the bicheon heuksal would win because of the debuffs but that might change at 100 cap because ive heard archers get some debufs as well, you never know no debuff for archer..... only 2 arrow combo which makes knock back. and lv98 strongbow stun. Ok, thanks i want sure. Then i supose pacheon, hueksal wouldnt work. But maybe bicheon and pacheon, you knock them down, do the lvl 90 double stab and then run away and pull out your bow? pacheon would not work with any build imo...cuz its advantage its range... bicheon/heuksal would be more reasonable
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jyushinshuu
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:49 am |
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Ragnorak wrote: pacheon would not work with any build imo...cuz its advantage its range... bicheon/heuksal would be more reasonable
that's what im talking about!!! having pancheon as weapon mastery is good only for solo not dual weapon mastery.....
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:36 pm |
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i think we have accerted that pacheon does not go with any dual weapon build lol
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Polemique
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:35 pm |
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Woow, just came back - great to see your opinions about it. you all are all right, bow does not go with another Weapon - furthermore I have got a lvl 70 Bow with 200k SP, its ment to be: Fire 90, Pacheon 90, Light 80, Ice 40. Thats indeed the common build but I am allright with it if I have another mainchar with the destination of beeing a great PvP Build - and by the way I really hate the thought of being a warrior / cleric. So I do want to have one of the strongest chinese PvP Builds and till now I am free to do anything. I can make any chinese Build.
SO I think at the moment I stick to the Bicheon/Heuksal/Fire Build. But if you have other PvP recommondations, your welcome to tell them ...
Otherwise I think we should discuss (only if you like) against which builds this character is good and with WHICH strategie. Which armor to wear and which way to play against the hardest PvP Builds. Furthermore I was thinking about Ice on lvl 30 just to have the little snowshield. Dont worry about Moving speed I have got the 75% pills, I did them lately and I have enough of them.I might start:- Warrior/Cleric:
I think its probably the hardest Build to PvP with - and I am a little bit worried about it because I dont have Ice with my character. Well, blade with 35k HP is not that bad (devil spirit, heuksal boost) - and I have got the iceshield/ironwall shield. My strategie: first of all I try to give it bleed, than KD as fast as I can, otherwise I get stunned, bleeded. after the steps I should make either the Ghostspear or the stone smash and then the ghostspear, emperor and Dull skill. another strategie could be: Knock down, DONT stab, just cast firewall, and than take glavie and hit as hard as one can. This char must be ultimative, I want to have one of the best PvP characters in neptune and I know it takes at least a lot of skill to be good with it. But I will get trained and used to it, thats not the problem at all... What do you think about the Warrior/Cleric conterpart? what do you think bout other enemys (S/S Int, Spear Hybrid, Glavie or Bow with Force, Wizzard, Rogoue...) Thank you so far, have a nice day your Theatralique 
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:43 pm |
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ahahaha........ good luck man, i think u can learn how to counter those build when u have pvped them...
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Post subject: Re: °°°Chinese Dual Weapon°°° Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:58 pm |
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YangKang wrote: Mousetrap wrote: prime example of how people who don't have a capped character.. meh forget it.
Youre talking to me? I capped more then 3 chars since 4 years. 2 of them were bladers and got 1 to 67. no... I quoted Tsume. but your suggestion to take light over fire was dumb also =D
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