Devil spirit...

NinjaNihonto · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 88 **Location:**

NyxBaby wrote:

NinjaNihonto wrote:

U don't need to be capped to enjoy the game, you enjoy the game while getting to the cap. Why do you think most capped players go semi-active, or simply inactive?

i think its cause they'r uncool

I'd say that's maybe part of them :roll:

the other part are those who just get bored.

NyxBaby · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 213 **Location:**

NinjaNihonto wrote:

NyxBaby wrote:

NinjaNihonto wrote:

U don't need to be capped to enjoy the game, you enjoy the game while getting to the cap. Why do you think most capped players go semi-active, or simply inactive?

i think its cause they'r uncool

I'd say that's maybe part of them :roll:

the other part are those who just get bored.

no no, they dont get bored, they are just uncool

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

I would imagine it would get pretty boring at cap after a while. At some point, it gets to be no challenge. You're at the top of the game, can kill pretty much anyone, no quests available, no point grinding (you're already capped and farmed).

Alfred · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 1545 **Location:** .se

PR0METHEUS wrote:

I would imagine it would get pretty boring at cap after a while. At some point, it gets to be no challenge. You're at the top of the game, can kill pretty much anyone, no quests available, no point grinding (you're already capped and farmed).

It gets boring the very second you reach this point. Keep it slow people, the journey is what makes the game worth playing.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:02 pm

Alfred wrote:

PR0METHEUS wrote:

I would imagine it would get pretty boring at cap after a while. At some point, it gets to be no challenge. You're at the top of the game, can kill pretty much anyone, no quests available, no point grinding (you're already capped and farmed).

It gets boring the very second you reach this point. Keep it slow people, the journey is what makes the game worth playing.

not if theres lots of jobwars. those are always fun.

Ragnorak · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1147 **Location:**

NinjaNihonto wrote:

U don't need to be capped to enjoy the game, you enjoy the game while getting to the cap. Why do you think most capped players go semi-active, or simply inactive?

being cap suppose to be the "best" thing that can happen to you
-no worries about grinding if FF
- only thing left to do is

-Guild Wars
-Job Wars
-Pvp
-Trading
-There should be ton of job wars/trades daily but does not the case

Many don't bother to job war/trade because endless immolation ruins part of trading/jobing by outside ressers...doesn't happen too often though
-Most 90s that are FF feel that they MUST get sun drop>>>bot a LOT
-Many grind/bot instead of trading to get the SP for the next cap
-Premium+ will "force" players to grind/bot

Lack of the main component of the game (trading system) will lead to inactivity

DontHackMePl0x · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 167 **Location:**

Why is everyone whining about not having anything to do at cap ?

On Aege there is more then enough job activity every single day. DW south is filled 24/7. Occasional guild/union wars. But... 95% are bots, so most of u will start crying again. The "problem" is, bot infested servers are alot more fun then Venus... all u do is grind then get to 90 and then what? There is nothing left to do because no one jobs except for your own union...

If your server has no job or pvp activity, u should move to a more fun server. Aege is bot infested to the max, BUT IT IS FUN AND VERY ACTIVE. I would rather play on a bot server wich has EVERY aspect of SRO actively being used (dont mind that weird sentence, i mean like pvp and job activity, and ofcourse entertaining globals).

And for those people saying the game is free blablabla, wake up. The game itself is free, BUT if u would like to have any fun at all with pvp/job (wich the game was ment for), you will find yourself in serious need for silk, otherwise your ass gets raped vs silkbuyers.

OTG · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1060 **Location:**

the_wicked wrote:

Alfred wrote:

PR0METHEUS wrote:

I would imagine it would get pretty boring at cap after a while. At some point, it gets to be no challenge. You're at the top of the game, can kill pretty much anyone, no quests available, no point grinding (you're already capped and farmed).

It gets boring the very second you reach this point. Keep it slow people, the journey is what makes the game worth playing.

not if theres lots of jobwars. those are always fun.

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

Why is everyone whining about not having anything to do at cap ?

Sure there's lots to do, but where's the challenge? At cap, you're among the strongest on the server, so the only challenge is against the few who are stronger than you because of more blues on their gear or they have suns, blahblah.

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

On Aege there is more then enough job activity every single day. DW south is filled 24/7. Occasional guild/union wars. But... 95% are bots, so most of u will start crying again. The "problem" is, bot infested servers are alot more fun then Venus... all u do is grind then get to 90 and then what? There is nothing left to do because no one jobs except for your own union...

Sure, it's fun to kick botters around when they're actually not afk, but botters destroy the game, so they don't belong here in the first place. The same fun can be had with legits who actually belong here. Grind to 90? I'm not doing that, and neither are a large number of other people I know. Lower levels can be fun too.

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

If your server has no job or pvp activity, u should move to a more fun server. Aege is bot infested to the max, BUT IT IS FUN AND VERY ACTIVE. I would rather play on a bot server wich has EVERY aspect of SRO actively being used (dont mind that weird sentence, i mean like pvp and job activity, and ofcourse entertaining globals).

If our server has no job or PVP activity, we should CREATE that activity, not move to another server that has the problems most of us have worked hard to eliminate.

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

And for those people saying the game is free blablabla, wake up. The game itself is free, BUT if u would like to have any fun at all with pvp/job (wich the game was ment for), you will find yourself in serious need for silk, otherwise your ass gets raped vs silkbuyers.

Personally, I think jobbing can be just as fun at lower levels, if not moreso, than at cap. I've never experienced cap, but at least at lower levels there's more danger involved in jobbing. At lower levels, you won't get "raped vs silkbuyers" if you're smart about your trade run. Scouts, off the main path, plan ahead, hunters, blahblah... I have no problem getting robbed. It's fun trying to survive. Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes I don't. Same for thieving. Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes not, but at least I can try. No need for silk.

NinjaNihonto · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 88 **Location:**

PR0METHEUS wrote:

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

Why is everyone whining about not having anything to do at cap ?

Sure there's lots to do, but where's the challenge? At cap, you're among the strongest on the server, so the only challenge is against the few who are stronger than you because of more blues on their gear or they have suns, blahblah.

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

On Aege there is more then enough job activity every single day. DW south is filled 24/7. Occasional guild/union wars. But... 95% are bots, so most of u will start crying again. The "problem" is, bot infested servers are alot more fun then Venus... all u do is grind then get to 90 and then what? There is nothing left to do because no one jobs except for your own union...

Sure, it's fun to kick botters around when they're actually not afk, but botters destroy the game, so they don't belong here in the first place. The same fun can be had with legits who actually belong here. Grind to 90? I'm not doing that, and neither are a large number of other people I know. Lower levels can be fun too.

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

If your server has no job or pvp activity, u should move to a more fun server. Aege is bot infested to the max, BUT IT IS FUN AND VERY ACTIVE. I would rather play on a bot server wich has EVERY aspect of SRO actively being used (dont mind that weird sentence, i mean like pvp and job activity, and ofcourse entertaining globals).

If our server has no job or PVP activity, we should CREATE that activity, not move to another server that has the problems most of us have worked hard to eliminate.

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

And for those people saying the game is free blablabla, wake up. The game itself is free, BUT if u would like to have any fun at all with pvp/job (wich the game was ment for), you will find yourself in serious need for silk, otherwise your ass gets raped vs silkbuyers.

Personally, I think jobbing can be just as fun at lower levels, if not moreso, than at cap. I've never experienced cap, but at least at lower levels there's more danger involved in jobbing. At lower levels, you won't get "raped vs silkbuyers" if you're smart about your trade run. Scouts, off the main path, plan ahead, hunters, blahblah... I have no problem getting robbed. It's fun trying to survive. Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes I don't. Same for thieving. Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes not, but at least I can try. No need for silk.

+1
The point of the game is to have fun, that's what a game is meant for. Not to be capped. Take for example the people playing GTA... most of them don't do the missions, instead they go around whacking pedestrians with cars and using codes to have fun

LillDev!l · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2587 **Location:** OTL&OG

PR0METHEUS gets the point if you ask me

atm i like playing on my lil'o level 22 on Eos in pure npc gear more then i like playing on my 81 bower on troy with nice gear ^__^
just do what i feel like doing in the game, as long as i have fun xD

DontHackMePl0x · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 167 **Location:**

PR0METHEUS wrote:

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

Why is everyone whining about not having anything to do at cap ?

Sure there's lots to do, but where's the challenge? At cap, you're among the strongest on the server, so the only challenge is against the few who are stronger than you because of more blues on their gear or they have suns, blahblah. Luckily on Aege that aint a problem, there are shitloads of capped players already so there is enough challenge (bots again, but to me it aint a problem. I would rather have stuff to do with botters then have nothing to do except grind with legits).

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

On Aege there is more then enough job activity every single day. DW south is filled 24/7. Occasional guild/union wars. But... 95% are bots, so most of u will start crying again. The "problem" is, bot infested servers are alot more fun then Venus... all u do is grind then get to 90 and then what? There is nothing left to do because no one jobs except for your own union...

Sure, it's fun to kick botters around when they're actually not afk, but botters destroy the game, so they don't belong here in the first place. The same fun can be had with legits who actually belong here. Grind to 90? I'm not doing that, and neither are a large number of other people I know. Lower levels can be fun too. I am not saying lower levels are no fun, but (this is my opinion) capped pvp/job is a whole lotta more fun then midrange.

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

If your server has no job or pvp activity, u should move to a more fun server. Aege is bot infested to the max, BUT IT IS FUN AND VERY ACTIVE. I would rather play on a bot server wich has EVERY aspect of SRO actively being used (dont mind that weird sentence, i mean like pvp and job activity, and ofcourse entertaining globals).

If our server has no job or PVP activity, we should CREATE that activity, not move to another server that has the problems most of us have worked hard to eliminate. No personal attack to you, but i always read on here there is almost no job activity on Venus. It is nice that u do not have the bot problem, but (maybe because of that?) u also dont have any "action" going on.

DontHackMePl0x wrote:

And for those people saying the game is free blablabla, wake up. The game itself is free, BUT if u would like to have any fun at all with pvp/job (wich the game was ment for), you will find yourself in serious need for silk, otherwise your ass gets raped vs silkbuyers.

Personally, I think jobbing can be just as fun at lower levels, if not moreso, than at cap. I've never experienced cap, but at least at lower levels there's more danger involved in jobbing. At lower levels, you won't get "raped vs silkbuyers" if you're smart about your trade run. Scouts, off the main path, plan ahead, hunters, blahblah... I have no problem getting robbed. It's fun trying to survive. Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes I don't. Same for thieving. Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes not, but at least I can try. No need for silk. Cant bring anything against that, you're absolutely right.

Toshiharu · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4222 **Location:** Nowhere

Lordkraven wrote:

PREMIUM+AVATAR+DEVIL SPIRIT+SCROLLS (all item mal) ... is fair uh? lol good luck and clean your eyes

Who runs around with scrolls on 24/7? Besides MiniMe in Troy. And prem+ doens't affect pvp that bad. I've been playing without any premium buff after 2 months of cap. Why? I don't need it anymore. Prem+ doesn't make it a HUGE difference.. its just what you think. 10k dmg to be 11k.. I don't think thats huge, but the defense.. meh. I suppose that is more useful than the dmg increase, but still not worth $30 to buy every month.

And you know what else? Everyone had the chance to obtain a full avatar suit for the buffs. Excluding new users that would most likely quit after playing for a week or two.

Devil spirit isn't on 24/7 according to the description Konpaku manage to dig out.

Fair.. no you're still right.. but.. Those that actually need all that I would consider as a shitty player.

Lordkraven · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 19 **Location:**

One advice for all of you ... WAKE UP.

I played this game almoust 4 years and its crazy grind, too much hours you lost in your life ... why? for fun?

yeah, this game was great ... WAS.

Well, pvp with people with same lvl is fun, jobs with people with same lvl is fun, trades with people with same lvl is fun too. But you allways will have a purpose in this game ...lvl up to be better. ALLWAYS. That is the core of the any mmo game. :banghead:

But remember, even you think is fun when you are lvl 40/60 and get owned by players 80/90 doesn't mean is fun for all.

This game had a very potential, excllent engine, but ... joymax do nothing to turn the game more enjoyable. I believe this kind of games with ALOOOT of grind are in the final days. Too much new games is there with news sytems to lvl up and have fun .

Now, people from Venus, when they believe had a excellent comunity ... You are a Joke

You dont pay any silk? hmmm let me gues, what you do to log in against server traffic? Oh, you need nodc client? No? how many times you try to connect? how many minutes you lost trying to connect? In a week is a some hours. How many DC crash you have? oh, lets do it again, username, password, code ...... server traffic ... close client.
Now, if u have a pentium 4, with normal graphic card and 1gb ram, you need mooore time to init the game all the time yo get traffic message lol ... This is a game? find definition for a word GAME in google.

Ah! This game has a Fortress ... Amazing, and they will put the second fortress ... Amazing uh? What? You never participate in fortress war?
Why? this is because Joymax think the fortress war is better Thursday morning? Even when in America is like 4/5:00 AM? Who played that? Koreans? japanese? oh, wait, they have a server ... hmm interesting

How many post you see to ask for joymax change the day for Fortress? or maybe change the Hour? No, They are Defs.
I bet for the new fortress is like mondays 10:00 AM europe time.

Have a good time, i'll continue playing a GAME Warhammer and still waiting for AION

Again ... WAKE UP and try to don't be hacked.
Yesterday, friend of mine was hacked ... of course he quit

NinjaNihonto · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 88 **Location:**

Lordkraven wrote:

One advice for all of you ... WAKE UP.

I played this game almoust 4 years and its crazy grind, too much hours you lost in your life ... why? for fun?

yeah, this game was great ... WAS.

Well, pvp with people with same lvl is fun, jobs with people with same lvl is fun, trades with people with same lvl is fun too. But you allways will have a purpose in this game ...lvl up to be better. ALLWAYS. That is the core of the any mmo game. :banghead:

But remember, even you think is fun when you are lvl 40/60 and get owned by players 80/90 doesn't mean is fun for all.

This game had a very potential, excllent engine, but ... joymax do nothing to turn the game more enjoyable. I believe this kind of games with ALOOOT of grind are in the final days. Too much new games is there with news sytems to lvl up and have fun .

Now, people from Venus, when they believe had a excellent comunity ... You are a Joke

You dont pay any silk? hmmm let me gues, what you do to log in against server traffic? Oh, you need nodc client? No? how many times you try to connect? how many minutes you lost trying to connect? In a week is a some hours. How many DC crash you have? oh, lets do it again, username, password, code ...... server traffic ... close client.
Now, if u have a pentium 4, with normal graphic card and 1gb ram, you need mooore time to init the game all the time yo get traffic message lol ... This is a game? find definition for a word GAME in google.

Ah! This game has a Fortress ... Amazing, and they will put the second fortress ... Amazing uh? What? You never participate in fortress war?
Why? this is because Joymax think the fortress war is better Thursday morning? Even when in America is like 4/5:00 AM? Who played that? Koreans? japanese? oh, wait, they have a server ... hmm interesting

How many post you see to ask for joymax change the day for Fortress? or maybe change the Hour? No, They are Defs.
I bet for the new fortress is like mondays 10:00 AM europe time.

Have a good time, i'll continue playing a GAME Warhammer and still waiting for AION

Again ... WAKE UP and try to don't be hacked.
Yesterday, friend of mine was hacked ... of course he quit

I don't get it, why are you telling us that?... Point in bringing Venus into this? Point in saying ur friend got hacked?

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:46 pm

Whine much bla bla.
It's funny that ppl whine but they still play everyday and buy silk every month :roll:

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

NinjaNihonto wrote:

Take for example the people playing GTA... most of them don't do the missions, instead they go around whacking pedestrians with cars and using codes to have fun

I personally like to steal an Army tank (in GTA 2 at least) and see how long I can last running from, and killing, the authorities. It's great when the Army comes out, locks down the city, and tries to stop you

Lordkraven wrote:

One advice for all of you ... WAKE UP.

I played this game almoust 4 years and its crazy grind, too much hours you lost in your life ... why? for fun?

I just log in and grind or job or run around or whatever I want for maybe an hour a day, a few days a week. Not many hours of my life lost. I just play when I'm in the mood to do so... just play to have fun, not play to try to rush to cap.

Lordkraven wrote:

You dont pay any silk? hmmm let me gues, what you do to log in against server traffic? Oh, you need nodc client? No? how many times you try to connect? how many minutes you lost trying to connect?

No silk here. If there's server traffic, I'll try to log in 2 or 3 times. If I fail, oh well. I'll try again later. No big deal.

Fly · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 2114 **Location:**

meh i look forward to this. the defence side of the game has been so overdone by snowshield, bless, skins, screens, premium, ect ect that we can use all the damage we can get. if this helps cut down on boring unending fights, then im all for it. i dont mind paying money as long as it helps pvp be more fun.

OTG · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1060 **Location:**

Fly wrote:

meh i look forward to this. the defence side of the game has been so overdone by snowshield, bless, skins, screens, premium, ect ect that we can use all the damage we can get. if this helps cut down on boring unending fights, then im all for it. i dont mind paying money as long as it helps pvp be more fun.

Finally someone who agrees with me.

sama98b · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1428 **Location:**

OTG wrote:

Fly wrote:

meh i look forward to this. the defence side of the game has been so overdone by snowshield, bless, skins, screens, premium, ect ect that we can use all the damage we can get. if this helps cut down on boring unending fights, then im all for it. i dont mind paying money as long as it helps pvp be more fun.

Finally someone who agrees with me.

LOL it won't help since basic option is 25% more hp/mp
It help vs ppl who can't afford to get 1

LillDev!l · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2587 **Location:** OTL&OG

Toshiharu wrote:

Lordkraven wrote:

PREMIUM+AVATAR+DEVIL SPIRIT+SCROLLS (all item mal) ... is fair uh? lol good luck and clean your eyes

Who runs around with scrolls on 24/7? Besides MiniMe in Troy. And prem+ doens't affect pvp that bad. I've been playing without any premium buff after 2 months of cap. Why? I don't need it anymore. Prem+ doesn't make it a HUGE difference.. its just what you think. 10k dmg to be 11k.. I don't think thats huge, but the defense.. meh. I suppose that is more useful than the dmg increase, but still not worth $30 to buy every month.

And you know what else? Everyone had the chance to obtain a full avatar suit for the buffs. Excluding new users that would most likely quit after playing for a week or two.

Devil spirit isn't on 24/7 according to the description Konpaku manage to dig out.

Fair.. no you're still right.. but.. Those that actually need all that I would consider as a shitty player.

ye, MiniMe = just plain retarded

but, prem plus helps more then to just increase your damage from 10k to 11k in pvp.

me vs a friend both with prem = 7k <-->7k
me vs same friend me without prem him with prem 4-5k<--->9-10k kinda a big difference

NinjaNihonto · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 88 **Location:**

PR0METHEUS wrote:

NinjaNihonto wrote:

Take for example the people playing GTA... most of them don't do the missions, instead they go around whacking pedestrians with cars and using codes to have fun

I personally like to steal an Army tank (in GTA 2 at least) and see how long I can last running from, and killing, the authorities. It's great when the Army comes out, locks down the city, and tries to stop you

Yea I played GTA2 and I did that... I even remember a few places where they were hidden. On the first map, one of them was at the bottom right corner, second one at the middle left edge of the map. Second map had one hidden under a bridge to the left of the map aswell... I don't remember for the third map

Good old times.

sama98b wrote:

LOL it won't help since basic option is 25% more hp/mp
It help vs ppl who can't afford to get 1

+1, fights will last as long during combats with people who also have that item.

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

NinjaNihonto wrote:

Yea I played GTA2 and I did that... I even remember a few places where they were hidden. On the first map, one of them was at the bottom right corner, second one at the middle left edge of the map. Second map had one hidden under a bridge to the left of the map aswell... I don't remember for the third map

Good old times.

I may have to pull out my Sega Dreamcast tonight and play around with those tanks again, for old time's sake :wink:

BaronSengir · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 654 **Location:** Earth

another way to suck up users money nice

DarkJackal · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 6119 **Location:** A den~

LillDev!l wrote:

DarkJackal wrote:

Thinking you should thank Joymax is kinda stupid..

They made a good game, ya thanks for that Joymax. But thanks for letting botters infest and ruin it, thanks for your shit security for how long, thanks for having extremely unfair advantages if you pay, thanks to all the GM's, thanks for enforcing your own rules, thanks for letting the retards of sro global any and every kind of insult all the time, thanks for stealing others games faq/info stuff lol, thanks for putting events ahead of gameplay quality, thanks for letting bots win those events. Thanks \o/.

what makes you think joymax even created the game xD?

lol guess your right about that.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

Lordkraven wrote:

Venus

Moot point. Venus has little to no traffic.
OnT: Lol. Now I play maybe two hours a day if I feel like it. After homework, a few articles, a little modding, some random things with fam&friends I'll play a PC game. Usually UT, but as of late I have been enjoying my lowbie rogue.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:03 am

PR0METHEUS wrote:

I would imagine it would get pretty boring at cap after a while. At some point, it gets to be no challenge. You're at the top of the game, can kill pretty much anyone, no quests available, no point grinding (you're already capped and farmed).

lol...there are no real quest in SRO...

_Creep_ · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:32 am

I heard that Devil spirit sh!t will be used only in FW.

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

everyones waitin for aion (include me on that), but bot companies and reverse engineering teams (eg. 0x33) are gettin ready to work on it, afaik. i hope we dont find a 2nd sro ther.

OT: joymax will keep makin mall items like that till the unhappiness of their customers runs out of control. then, maybe, they'll think about fix the game. Aion's release might be a reason to fix it too.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

_Creep_ wrote:

I heard that Devil spirit sh!t will be used only in FW.

good

but looks kl tho

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