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What sub you think is best for wiz
Cleric 53%  53%  [ 9 ]
Bard 47%  47%  [ 8 ]
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 Post subject: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:41 pm 
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Ive heard a lot of talk that cleric is annoying and people yell at you if they die, and bard well ive heard you pretty much suck at pvp, and is only used for pve. So which do yall pick. Feel free to post opinions about both.

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
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Well 1st off both your guys are subclassed bard, so maybe cleric to sort of change the rhythm. Anyways, Wizard I think just goes hand in hand with cleric, I know bard has noise and stuff, but with cleric, and bless spell, and res (for plvling :roll: ) you don't need noise because when those 5 mobs come at you, and you have on bless spell, just aoe the **** out of them :D

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
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McLovin1t wrote:
Well 1st off both your guys are subclassed bard, so maybe cleric to sort of change the rhythm. Anyways, Wizard I think just goes hand in hand with cleric, I know bard has noise and stuff, but with cleric, and bless spell, and res (for plvling :roll: ) you don't need noise because when those 5 mobs come at you, and you have on bless spell, just aoe the **** out of them :D


Very true, i have thought about it and cleric looks pretty fun, but everyone ive talked to says cleric is a bad idea( and they are wiz/cleric also)

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
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Well if I were you I would watch some videos you know? I mean I can't imagine what is so bad about wizard/cleric except maybe a decrease in grinding speed because of moving march/keeping up mp and noise. But for pvp I would think wizard/cleric is better because of bless? Whatever you want though, if I were you again, I would watch some lvl 80/90 youtube videos.

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
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McLovin1t wrote:
Well if I were you I would watch some videos you know? I mean I can't imagine what is so bad about wizard/cleric except maybe a decrease in grinding speed because of moving march/keeping up mp and noise. But for pvp I would think wizard/cleric is better because of bless? Whatever you want though, if I were you again, I would watch some lvl 80/90 youtube videos.


Yea the lack speed thing would be annoying, but i have plenty 50% speed scrolls, but yea ill look up some video's you know any goods ones i should watch?

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
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Ya

Wizard Cleric PVP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUnLxy0nhP0

Wizard Bard PVP I couldn't find one, sorry, maybe you can try yourself :oops:

Wizard Cleric PVE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mMBOfLSz78

Wizard Bard PVE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gseaiAZfA2Y (not many bard videos sorry, it isn't very good).

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
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McLovin1t wrote:
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Wizard Cleric PVP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUnLxy0nhP0

Wizard Bard PVP I couldn't find one, sorry, maybe you can try yourself :oops:

Wizard Cleric PVE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mMBOfLSz78

Wizard Bard PVE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gseaiAZfA2Y (not many bard videos sorry, it isn't very good).


I didn't really like the looks of wiz/cleric pvp, lot of weapon switchen and i suck a weapon switching, i thought about it and pvp for wizards isnt really that great at all cause you die quick. I might just go wiz/bb, but im not really sure yet. I still have some days till my character gets deleted so i have time to think.

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
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If they die and they blame you then it's pretty sad. It's their fault for not being good/smart players. You don't have to ress them if they are pricks.

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
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If they die and they blame you then it's pretty sad. It's their fault for not being good/smart players. You don't have to ress them if they are pricks.


True, but still it would get really annoying after awhile, im think i might just go wizard/bb and if i want a cleric in a build ill make a warrior/cleric but that wont be till my wizard is high enough to pfarm.

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
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Could do bard/cleric, bards are probably one of the strongest euro ints with regards to pvp anyway, they have that 47% dmg absorption for either phy or mag that can be changed at will, they have fast nukes, absolute dmg and they can bind and then run with their insane speed.
All in all wizards arnt to good in pvp, imo anyway..

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
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JKMB wrote:
Could do bard/cleric, bards are probably one of the strongest euro ints with regards to pvp anyway, they have that 47% dmg absorption for either phy or mag that can be changed at will, they have fast nukes, absolute dmg and they can bind and then run with their insane speed.
All in all wizards arnt to good in pvp, imo anyway..


Yea, im mostly thinking about be wiz/battle bard and im going to use guardia's guide. Right now im stalling anything worth selling on all the characters i got now then after im going to delete them and start fresh with a character i will stick with and enjoy playing, because im sick of not being able to find a character i enjoy playing and maken characters then deleting over and over, right now im one of those "ill never reach 90 at all people".

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 Post subject: Re: Wizard/Cleric or Wizard/Bard
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i say bard couse u could kil uniques überfast...
U get on capped char 100% speed for just a few ana points and killing uniqes is too easy....
If u want to do it for plvl go cleric or just in partys its usefull too
For PVP i suggest cleric too couse otherwise u get 1hitted non-stop

This is just what i think i suggest bard

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i say bard couse u could kil uniques überfast...
U get on capped char 100% speed for just a few ana points and killing uniqes is too easy....
If u want to do it for plvl go cleric or just in partys its usefull too
For PVP i suggest cleric too couse otherwise u get 1hitted non-stop

This is just what i think i suggest bard


I probably will be bard, and if i plvl ill just make sure we are in a spot where no one dies or ill be sure to have a cleric in the party with us, as for pvp, wizards to me arent really good at for it. If i want a pvp build ill probably farm myself a warrior/cleric or a str blader.

Also, when jobbing...Your a hunter for some traders would wiz/bard be bad?

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