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AlwaysTheAntagonist
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Post subject: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:26 am |
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Hi there, After a long break of SRO I'm back playing and I have a blader FF for 90 but it's only level 37 atm, I plan on continueing to play this character but which build should I take, there has been a few changes since I've been gone.. I'm think either.. Force/Fire/Bich 90, Ice 30 Or Fire/Bich 90, Ice 72, Light 48 as suggested by Fudge.. Or maybe take one of those builds but as a glaiver/bower.. Can someone give me some suggestions  Can a force blader kill? I mean with the debuffs and all I figure it would be like a glaiver that tanks more and has kd and sexy chains. Thank you.
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:31 am |
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My guess is Force blader, I'm making one myself now. Wish I was FF already.. Taking forever.. Anyways I don't have much experience PvPing force bladers at cap. So my advice isn't that good.
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:23 am |
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AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote: Hi there, After a long break of SRO I'm back playing and I have a blader FF for 90 but it's only level 37 atm, I plan on continueing to play this character but which build should I take, there has been a few changes since I've been gone.. I'm think either.. Force/Fire/Bich 90, Ice 30 Or Fire/Bich 90, Ice 72, Light 48 as suggested by Fudge.. Or maybe take one of those builds but as a glaiver/bower.. Can someone give me some suggestions  Can a force blader kill? I mean with the debuffs and all I figure it would be like a glaiver that tanks more and has kd and sexy chains. Thank you. Go for the Fire/Bich 90, Ice 72, Light 48. Best pvp build ever.
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AlwaysTheAntagonist
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:37 am |
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Wouldn't force make more sence? For the debuffs. A blader is already a good tanker and lacks dmg.. So I was thinking that the force debuffs would make up for it? Can you please give me some more reason to take the ice/light build, just need some info to convince me. I'm not sure I'd be able to kill anyone with that build to :S
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:46 am |
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AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote: Wouldn't force make more sence? For the debuffs. A blader is already a good tanker and lacks dmg.. So I was thinking that the force debuffs would make up for it? Can you please give me some more reason to take the ice/light build, just need some info to convince me. I'm not sure I'd be able to kill anyone with that build to :S Cleric = Making half your build completely useless. A blader can already debuff on it's own. Why add more? Stick to that build and you'll win. 72 ice, 48 light.
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AlwaysTheAntagonist
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:50 am |
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Hmm.. Good point, Force does have a usefull skill to get rid of debuffs to. Would there be any point in 90 ice? both imbues..
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:00 am |
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AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote: Hmm.. Good point, Force does have a usefull skill to get rid of debuffs to. Would there be any point in 90 ice? both imbues.. 90 ice if you wanna tank Str better. But I'd just go with 72 ice. No need in higher ice.
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AlwaysTheAntagonist
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:07 am |
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Hmm.. I see. Are there any other advantages of the 90:90:72:48 build?
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:09 am |
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AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote: Hmm.. I see. Are there any other advantages of the 90:90:72:48 build? You save SP. You get good balance between parry ratio and phy def. It's basically the best set up when choosing between light and ice.
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AlwaysTheAntagonist
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:16 am |
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Yeah I know about the SP and it's been tempting me heaps. Also parry ratio from light isn't that great vs parry ratio from gear, with blues it's real easy to get up. I like the sound of the 72/48 build.. But it will take me ages to get 2+ debuffs onto people because it's only 30% unlike the force debuffs 80%..
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:27 pm |
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AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote: Yeah I know about the SP and it's been tempting me heaps. Also parry ratio from light isn't that great vs parry ratio from gear, with blues it's real easy to get up. I like the sound of the 72/48 build.. But it will take me ages to get 2+ debuffs onto people because it's only 30% unlike the force debuffs 80%.. i like 90/90 fire bich 68-ice and 52- light you get your mains get last book for ice guard and 2nd book for grass walk
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:22 pm |
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go force. Ive seen lvl 90 ff force bladers with average +5 gear hit over 10k's on FF 90 glaivers, if you get the debuffs on somone then use the final tier KD+stab with crit increase. then your opponent will be dead. so yeah force bladers can kill shit. only problem is you have tons of people refusing to pvp you cause your a "force noob." go for it though. its a fun build. i enjoyed my force blader.
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:38 pm |
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Qosta420 wrote: go force. Ive seen lvl 90 ff force bladers with average +5 gear hit over 10k's on FF 90 glaivers, if you get the debuffs on somone then use the final tier KD+stab with crit increase. then your opponent will be dead. so yeah force bladers can kill shit. only problem is you have tons of people refusing to pvp you cause your a "force noob." go for it though. its a fun build. i enjoyed my force blader. +1 my force blader is lvl 75 going for 90bich 90force 90fire 30cold pvp nukers my build and without the force debuffs the fight lasts alot longer. with force debuffs i killed him in 1 chain lol. i also have killed a bower friend my lvl. and this was with crap +0 gear. ice doesnt need to be any higher than 30. it already kills my MP when i put on snowshield when taking big hits. but the force passive MP increase helps that as well. only thing with this build is no ghost walk, but i can live with that, i dont need to run from anyone im a tanking beast 
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AlwaysTheAntagonist
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:26 am |
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So would this stratergy work well..
Force debuffs.. soul cut(they are far away) flying stone, lightning chain, kd stab stab? Against ints.. or just debuff, kd stab stab..
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:49 am |
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AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote: So would this stratergy work well..
Force debuffs.. soul cut(they are far away) flying stone, lightning chain, kd stab stab? Against ints.. or just debuff, kd stab stab.. If you want to suck, go force blader. Worst blader build ever.
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AlwaysTheAntagonist
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:12 am |
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OTG wrote: AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote: So would this stratergy work well..
Force debuffs.. soul cut(they are far away) flying stone, lightning chain, kd stab stab? Against ints.. or just debuff, kd stab stab.. If you want to suck, go force blader. Worst blader build ever. Why? More debuffs, with a higher chance.. Like 100 less phys deff than 72 ice.. Also with speed scrolls i run faster than I would with 48 light. Please give me some reasoning.
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:08 am |
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AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote: So would this stratergy work well..
Force debuffs.. soul cut(they are far away) flying stone, lightning chain, kd stab stab? Against ints.. or just debuff, kd stab stab.. yes that would be a good strategy
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AlwaysTheAntagonist
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:37 am |
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Can I please get some more opinions..
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:37 am |
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As you stated, Force gives Bladers a higher chance of winning. Because Blader lacks dmg. I would go with Force. And Impotent lowers the dmg of your opponent. So then you won't need ice imo.
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AlwaysTheAntagonist
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:54 am |
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I may aswell take ice at 30 for snow shield though. I'll use speed scrolls when I need to because I dont have any grasswalk or phantom and stuff.
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:43 am |
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AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote: I may aswell take ice at 30 for snow shield though. I'll use speed scrolls when I need to because I dont have any grasswalk or phantom and stuff. yes 30 ice snowshield is good and helps add some tanking ability. just use speed scrolls or drug of wind/typhoon
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:25 pm |
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i just cant understand why when the ppl say i will made a str force user ( force glavie blader or bow) the others say HEY YA NOOB GO AWAY FCK ^^ the thing is force users like to use force. for good sake let them BE !!! btw force bladers are warrior/warlocks  but blade/force can ress and debuff and heal and OMG is nice =D good at pvp slow like a cow but strong  what to do in pvp? debuffs + 1st book on bicheon then kd and then stabs 
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:12 am |
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banana wrote: what to do in pvp? debuffs + 1st book on bicheon then kd and then stabs Quote: Cleric = Making half your build completely useless. Your Force can't do anything to people with sub Cleric
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:14 am |
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but i'm sure you know force blader is hard to farm you need 3 mastery to be maxed at 90 but if you rich in sp just take it
as for me i would go for bich/fire/light/cold @ 90/90/60/60 i would be one of the best at 90 cap since i can take full advantage of 60 light and 60 ice since both have decent speed+defence at lvl 60. i will consider 70/30 light/cold at 100 cap.
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banana
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:00 pm |
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Kritikal wrote: but i'm sure you know force blader is hard to farm you need 3 mastery to be maxed at 90 but if you rich in sp just take it
as for me i would go for bich/fire/light/cold @ 90/90/60/60 i would be one of the best at 90 cap since i can take full advantage of 60 light and 60 ice since both have decent speed+defence at lvl 60. i will consider 70/30 light/cold at 100 cap. why you think for a build that will come in 2010 xD jk btw force balde is good just in pvp. imagine hunting.... without grasswalk? pfff all the npc thieves ll catch ya but in pvp you can destroy to sun users 
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AlwaysTheAntagonist
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:04 am |
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To who said cleric subs make force useless.. Well they may be able to get rid of the debuffs but don't they have to change weapon? A large inconvenience, It will let you do some more damage to then while they are stuffing around changing and it gives you time to heal (if you even need it) but I can't remember if you need to change or not.. Also farming aint a problem, over 500k ATM.. So yeah.. Even though I'd be slow I think it would be worth the sacrifice wouldn't it? I mean bladers will NEVER be able to kill someone on the run.. I can buy speed drugs and use scrolls for when it's necessary.. But bladers lack damage the most, force is giving a blader some damage.. making its biggest weakness not so big 
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:49 pm |
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banana wrote: Kritikal wrote: but i'm sure you know force blader is hard to farm you need 3 mastery to be maxed at 90 but if you rich in sp just take it
as for me i would go for bich/fire/light/cold @ 90/90/60/60 i would be one of the best at 90 cap since i can take full advantage of 60 light and 60 ice since both have decent speed+defence at lvl 60. i will consider 70/30 light/cold at 100 cap. why you think for a build that will come in 2010 xD jk btw force balde is good just in pvp. imagine hunting.... without grasswalk? pfff all the npc thieves ll catch ya but in pvp you can destroy to sun users  hunting/thiefing you almost always do in partys, buy either a drug of typhoon or a bard?
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Post subject: Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:05 pm |
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i like 70/50 or 60/60 for light and ice.
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