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 Post subject: Re: The Alternative to the "Confederation"
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:17 pm 
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Get over yourself, Ask Asylum how I made my monies, All Legit.

Now go scam some taxi money..

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Alright here's a question. Is it un-legit to accept a free bot plvl? If so how? Your not supporting the bot in anyway since your not paying for it. And say your 1-30 *the lvl zone for most free plvls* you can't really find a good party *even on Venus* with people who know how to play their builds till you hit the sungs. It's really hard to lvl 1-30 on a euro char soloing with a 3-4 gap. So why not just use the bot plvl that would be there even if you weren't and get to 30 so you can go party with fellow legits?
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Alright here's a question. Is it un-legit to accept a free bot plvl? If so how? Your not supporting the bot in anyway since your not paying for it. And say your 1-30 *the lvl zone for most free plvls* you can't really find a good party *even on Venus* with people who know how to play their builds till you hit the sungs. It's really hard to lvl 1-30 on a euro char soloing with a 3-4 gap. So why not just use the bot plvl that would be there even if you weren't and get to 30 so you can go party with fellow legits?
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Now then. In all seriousness, I wouldn't know (and yes, I know this is "Venus's" forum). The "confederation" makes the rules on Venus only. I don't see any problem with getting another character higher level so you have more ammo against the bots.

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 Post subject: Re: The Alternative to the "Confederation"
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Get over yourself, Ask Asylum how I made my monies, All Legit.

Now go scam some taxi money..


Scamming BOTtaxi money is the fastest way to make money. IF we were to buy taxis from them and then scam I WOULD SAY NO NO but since there is no way of them hitting back on us, then scam the hell out of them. A friend made 26m scamming in one day... Yea, he does beat gold-buying *ihim, points finger ---> caseyd4* and, oh yea


Scamming taxis does come back to hurt us. Once I joined a legit plvl and paid them 70k *I think* and then the next second I was kicked out. Why? Because one of you legits had scammed that person when he was a low lvl so now he *even though he's legit* is scamming other legits. So your wrong it does effect us *meaning legit* if you guys go around and scam people...now if their in a botting guild i don't give a crap scam them. But some people aren't unioned so you scam them even tho their legit and you make the pissed off at all legits thus losing a potential ally...and the Confederation defiantly needs allies these days to maintain it's strength.


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Alright here's a question. Is it un-legit to accept a free bot plvl? If so how? Your not supporting the bot in anyway since your not paying for it. And say your 1-30 *the lvl zone for most free plvls* you can't really find a good party *even on Venus* with people who know how to play their builds till you hit the sungs. It's really hard to lvl 1-30 on a euro char soloing with a 3-4 gap. So why not just use the bot plvl that would be there even if you weren't and get to 30 so you can go party with fellow legits?
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Now then. In all seriousness, I wouldn't know (and yes, I know this is "Venus's" forum). The "confederation" makes the rules on Venus only. I don't see any problem with getting another character higher level so you have more ammo against the bots.

Exactly what I'm trying to say :love:


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 Post subject: Re: The Alternative to the "Confederation"
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It's ok they show lack of maturity, basically how they present themselves reflects off their personality irl. Im guessing Low-self esteems?? Paranoia?? Control Freak?? They are Oblivious too the fact this is a video game. It's meant for a form of entertainment. Not this "zOMG WAr BotTzOr LeTS Own foRtResS LikE luLz" Sometimes when i troll through these forums i cannot help but just /facepalm myself.
They believe by "beating Bots" in a video game is going too significantly going too change anyone's lives, but too these people they somehow believe it will(dont get me wrong nothing wrong with "fighting bots" just you guys take it the nerdy extreme). Also they dont realize is most people.. laugh at how much of no life losers you guys are.. talking about the body of law , system of goverment rofl.. get a grip tis a game my young friends :)

Waiting for Army of Dick Riders to enter Topic.

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Hmmmm...of which banned account is this a remake?

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 Post subject: Re: The Alternative to the "Confederation"
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Scamming is scamming, brings you down to the same level.

Are you an Idiot or can you not read ?

I don't, and have never been power leveled, So how could you have scammed me ?


IN Fact, I would like at this point to reiterate the fact, I am Legit.


Im just not a complete Tool, And do not wish to do away with my moral sense of what is right, and join a bunch or R'Tards that think they are God. What you still don't seem to get is my only and single gripe was the WhiteList/Blacklist. OMFG Can you get any more Racist you bunch of idiots. Your stubbern ignorance and blindness have led you all astray many of you are not smart enough to see I grant that, and many of you are too young. Yet I have to "lol" at those who think they are kingmakers; "FLY","Nighbloom" I dont give a crap what you think, Wanna PK me, come and get me I couldnt give a crap, but your probably too busy PvPing Bots outside Sama. Isn't it Ironic the things you like to do include Playing with those you hate so much....Way to give them more motivation.



NOW ALL OF YOU(CONFEDERATION MEMBERS), GET THE FACK OUT OF MY THREAD.


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 Post subject: Re: The Alternative to the "Confederation"
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scamming legits IS NOT ALLOWED. if you have proofs of that happenning (legit scamming a legit) screenshots, send them to nightbloom. She in a place on SRA (now down) had said if that ever happenns they would get banned. We do not allow scamming other legits. If it was accidental he would give you the money back. If he doesnt give your money back or does it on purpose, BAN. Anyways, I was on Venus for over 2.5 months now and I have not seen one legit doing taxis ^^ If they every choose to plvl, they always do it free. Sometimes, some of them leave 1 or 2 spaces and scam bots from those. So, in the end every legit gets a benefit and no harm done to legits. Scamming bots is good for money but also great for making the bots go mad like hell and get them very pissed. So, this decreases their morale and increases their chance of quiting and that is what we want.


I hope someone out there in the Confederation sees what I'm seeing with this statement.

Let me elucidate.

"Botting = wrong, no matter what" Fine, nothing wrong with that statement.

"Scamming = wrong, UNLESS you scam a bot, then it's ok" - errr, what?

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 Post subject: Re: The Alternative to the "Confederation"
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...OMFG Can you get any more Racist you bunch of idiots...

Racist? Huh? You sure that's the word you were looking for? :?

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Hmm lets see, someone from the confed got my bot murder status, and I lost all my shit. hmm, Oh well,(turns on bot)...

And you really think that's what they say? You couldn't be more wrong. They get sooooooo fckng pissed off. They global FCK AVALON 100 times. They beg for their gear back. They spam PM's to the guy that got them murder. They froth at the mouth. They get all red and need to lay down.

Then they quit the server but still make posts on SRF pretending like they never cared.


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 Post subject: Re: The Alternative to the "Confederation"
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scamming legits IS NOT ALLOWED. if you have proofs of that happenning (legit scamming a legit) screenshots, send them to nightbloom. She in a place on SRA (now down) had said if that ever happenns they would get banned. We do not allow scamming other legits. If it was accidental he would give you the money back. If he doesnt give your money back or does it on purpose, BAN. Anyways, I was on Venus for over 2.5 months now and I have not seen one legit doing taxis ^^ If they every choose to plvl, they always do it free. Sometimes, some of them leave 1 or 2 spaces and scam bots from those. So, in the end every legit gets a benefit and no harm done to legits. Scamming bots is good for money but also great for making the bots go mad like hell and get them very pissed. So, this decreases their morale and increases their chance of quiting and that is what we want.


I hope someone out there in the Confederation sees what I'm seeing with this statement.

Let me elucidate.

"Botting = wrong, no matter what" Fine, nothing wrong with that statement.

"Scamming = wrong, UNLESS you scam a bot, then it's ok" - errr, what?


I saw the same thing :?


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 Post subject: Re: The Alternative to the "Confederation"
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Lemme clarify.

Shooting your enemies: just fine.

Shooting your friends: not so much.

Bots are the enemy. Tactics that would be frowned upon when used against friends are acceptable when used against enemies. The morality of an act may be lessened or increased depending on the object of the action. Hitting Mother Theresa in the face is something most people would kinda feel strongly against. Hitting...oh...let's say...Hitler in the face is cool, right? This shouldn't cause too much confusion. It's pretty simple.

And before any of you witless nuts think I'm comparing botting to Hitler, it's a fcking analogy, kk?


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Id Summise, Non Ego Man.

That you Got that wrong, as Mother Thereasa, Never condoned violence in any manner, and forgave those that sinned against her. She lead by example, NOT force.

Hitler,Liked Whitelists and Blacklists.

So which did you slap ?

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Lemme clarify.

Shooting your enemies: just fine.

Shooting your friends: not so much.

Bots are the enemy. Tactics that would be frowned upon when used against friends are acceptable when used against enemies. The morality of an act may be lessened or increased depending on the object of the action. Hitting Mother Theresa in the face is something most people would kinda feel strongly against. Hitting...oh...let's say...Hitler in the face is cool, right? This shouldn't cause too much confusion. It's pretty simple.

And before any of you witless nuts think I'm comparing botting to Hitler, it's a fcking analogy, kk?


I like analogies. This one made a bit sense to me. Although calling my witless was unnecessary, You guys need to be careful that whilst your explaining reasons for w/e actions people are questioning that you don't just start name calling and what not. People won't hear you and/or completely disregard what you said if you personally insult them.
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 Post subject: Re: The Alternative to the "Confederation"
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Although calling my witless was unnecessary


I beg to differ ...

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I like analogies. This one made a bit sense to me. Although calling my witless was unnecessary, You guys need to be careful that whilst your explaining reasons for w/e actions people are questioning that you don't just start name calling and what not. People won't hear you and/or completely disregard what you said if you personally insult them.
Just a tip.


I don't think they care at what expense, as long as the war against bots is won.

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I like analogies. This one made a bit sense to me. Although calling my witless was unnecessary, You guys need to be careful that whilst your explaining reasons for w/e actions people are questioning that you don't just start name calling and what not. People won't hear you and/or completely disregard what you said if you personally insult them.
Just a tip.


I don't think they care at what expense, as long as the war against bots is won.


We don't. :)

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I know nobody cares, and I'm not a mod, but let's stick with the rules, since you guys like to quote "the rules" of anti-botting all day long (which is fine by me).

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Although calling my witless was unnecessary...

No no no. That wasn't directed at you.

It was a preemptive attack against all the people who, after someone uses an analogy, say something along the lines of "oh now you're equating botting to murder?" or something like "Mother Theresa never harmed anyone, why would you want to hit her?" completely missing the point of the analogy.

Sorry for the confusion...and for lolling at Argo's post.


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These bot supporter need to shut the fck up right now.

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Now if we can just clarify who or what comprises a bot supporter, that'd be great.

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This thread gonna go on 4ever. I bet it will go on for another month and all these flames why is it still up?

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OH WAIT WAIT WAIT,

PICK ME PICK ME

I KNOWS


MISS TEACHER "Anyone who does not agree to the Confederations Rules !"

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OH WAIT WAIT WAIT,

PICK ME PICK ME

I KNOWS


MISS TEACHER "Anyone who does not agree to the Confederations Rules !"


well, err, that's not my personal idea of a bot supporter, but it appears to me if you're on Venus they're in power, and thus can enforce their rules.

(BTW, please understand that for the most part, that is indeed a GOOD thing. Come over to Olympus and fight for a spot in snipers/hunters with bots KS'ing you)

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I do undersatand its a good thing,

I simply don't want to play with their rules.

Apparently Im not allowed play if I dont.

Sorry Where do I pay for my Confed Silk please ?

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I do undersatand its a good thing,

I simply don't want to play with their rules.

Apparently Im not allowed play if I dont.

Sorry Where do I pay for my Confed Silk please ?

Did we say you couldn't play? We told you to go do it on a different server. If you disagree with the way we run our show, then go somewhere else. 1/32 servers has these rules, and you picked it because why? To try and rebel against us? Lol, good job. You've obviously succeeded at that fight, lololololol.

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READ THE START OF THE THREAD.


Didnt I say I had nothing against you,
Didnt I ask to keep it peacefull.

I HAD nothing against any of the confed, til the majority decided to come on here and spout absolute crap.

I am not after the downfall of anything.
I was there as the before confed had begun, I remember Avalon taking the Fort for first time.

Now please Do not talk as if the Confed own the server, I have been playing on it before it was even set up. !

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I do undersatand its a good thing,

I simply don't want to play with their rules.

Apparently Im not allowed play if I dont.

Sorry Where do I pay for my Confed Silk please ?

Did we say you couldn't play? We told you to go do it on a different server. If you disagree with the way we run our show, then go somewhere else. 1/32 servers has these rules, and you picked it because why? To try and rebel against us? Lol, good job. You've obviously succeeded at that fight, lololololol.

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Xander wrote:
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I do undersatand its a good thing,

I simply don't want to play with their rules.

Apparently Im not allowed play if I dont.

Sorry Where do I pay for my Confed Silk please ?

Did we say you couldn't play? We told you to go do it on a different server. If you disagree with the way we run our show, then go somewhere else. 1/32 servers has these rules, and you picked it because why? To try and rebel against us? Lol, good job. You've obviously succeeded at that fight, lololololol.

Every empire needs a rebellion to keep it in check

1 person isn't much of a check. Especially when that 1 member is going to try and put down new "rules" of his own... which are just a lax version of the Confederations. xP

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I simply don't want to play with their rules.

Actually, what you want to do is enjoy the benefits established by those who adhered to and promoted a hard line against illegit activities while you, yourself, only play by semi-legit rules.

Venus is a fantastic place to play. It took a lot of effort but people who want to play legit now have a server that they can thrive in. People who were near quitting on other servers are capping on Venus. Of course you want to play on Venus. It's the best fcking server in SRO.

Here's the thing, though. Your semi-legitness doesn't cut it. You're undermining everything that people here have worked so hard to establish. You may think "who cares if I use a loader?" or "who cares if I party with a bot?" but enforcing rules against those activities is a necessary part of what has made Venus successful.

The fact that you are fighting so hard to stay here acknowledges the success of the efforts you are now undermining. I could offer you 200M in gear on Oasis and you wouldn't take it. You know why? Because Oasis fcking sucks. And it sucks because nobody is playing legit. And nobody is playing legit because there is no confederacy.


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NON EGO MAN,

Sorry mate, I know we have taken different paths. When once we walked the same. I simply like playing the game. Hell I'd nearly start on another server if you offered that to me, It'd be too much work for me to start Lvl 0 again. You know why ?

Well for me botters are like another mob, another part of the game that I have to get around to succeed. Why can't people see the game in a different way to the confederation. I dont use loaders or bot or anything, infact I would call myself more legit than many of your memebers who scam other players. In fact Im absolutly sure that no one in my guild would ever join and use any of the things that classify them as breaking any of your rules. Why ?, Because I dont promise millions and millions, have a storage full of SoX gear. I just want to play the game and enjoy it, No one with the ambition of botting to cap or cheating in any way would stay in a guild where its leader is quiet happy to de level in the attempt to catch on 5* trader.

You see what you fail to understand is there is a natural equilibrium in life. As much as the confederations fight against the Botters on Venus is a balancing act of what botters have done, I believe it is important in Finding the RIGHT equilibrium(Not a FAR RIGHT One). Forcing people to learn never works. You can all say you are the solution, fact is your rules are in the main right. The acts of your members on this thread show alone that there is something basically wrong tho.


I am quiet happy so sit here be flamed and bla bla bla.


I still cant understand why everyone is flaming at me, it makes 0 sense as im the only one in the guild, what do you think you can achieve ?

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