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 Post subject: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:52 pm 
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Well im just wonderin on this coz i dont really know wat builds own eachother in pvp..so who would win in these pvp:
Lets say theyy r all lvl 90 FF and All in npc 9deg set+wep/shield/acc

Full STR bow vs. Full INT S/S (bich/light/ice)

full str blade vs. Full INT S/S " " "

Give your reasons y they would win etc.

Dont turn this into a flame topic >_>


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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:55 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:00 pm 
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wtf?

OT: In the first fight, I think the S/S would win easy, and in the second fight, possibly a pot war until the full ints snow has ran out.

Btw I think this should be in characters skills.

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:18 pm 
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its not about characters or skills really.. its about pvp.. lol

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:18 pm 
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Full Str would win in both cases. NPC set = FAIL. I can't imagine pvping in an npc set. I go from having 8k hp to having like 3k ><.

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:26 pm 
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No matter how strong u are, same gear, u cant kill an Int in snow shield.
=> Counter snow shield with snow shield
=> since u cant kill him in either case, just wear a shield and tank, KD, KB, firewall
=> snow shield run out, u win.

Str > Int

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:33 pm 
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NuclearSilo wrote:
No matter how strong u are, same gear, u cant kill an Int in snow shield.
=> Counter snow shield with snow shield
=> since u cant kill him in either case, just wear a shield and tank, KD, KB, firewall
=> snow shield run out, u win.

Str > Int

I agreed with this chinese ints become rly strong with the snow shield maxed

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:49 pm 
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stop spammin >_< someone delete her post plz

only mods can do that.

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
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Vintage wrote:
its not about characters or skills really.. its about pvp.. lol

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stop spammin >_< someone delete her post plz
hey im a man :x :x :x

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:23 pm 
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warrior kills almost all chinese builds e/c bladers. You can kill bladers too it just takes forever.

Warrior cleric rulezz

anyway, for china...i like bladers. Bladers actually do decent damage at cap with summit and depth and with 4 stabs. Ints dont usually do enuf damage to kill em if they're in garms. Glaives the same.
And the blader will usually win.

But in the case of s/s vs. glaive, s/s will probably win. Bleed will hurt and 4 downstabs will rape your mp if you're not force subclass with snow on.


s/s wont usually kill a blader. Spears usually die to glaivers and bladers. Archers are crit dependant, altho str builds usually kill them pretty fast.

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:28 pm 
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the_wicked wrote:

But in the case of s/s vs. glaive, s/s will probably win. Bleed will hurt and 4 downstabs will rape your mp if you're not force subclass with snow on.


where did the glavie part come from >_> lolz

and btw i am the int char not the str ones.. and im jw coz im 72 atm ff to 70 and iv ownd ever build iv ever came up against :? was just wondering if that is gonna change xDD

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:46 pm 
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Ints in npc gear? fail, you cant tank a crit in npc gear, you need the extra str to 1) give you more hp and 2) increase your phy defense, also as both builds are pure nukers, they will need int on their gear to compensate for not having a spear and for not having light chain.

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:56 pm 
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First Fight: Full Str Bow. high damage crits
Second Fight: Full Str Blade. good debuffs, like division

also agree with silo, Str>Int


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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:28 pm 
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What I have learned is that each build can kill each other
MOST important thing good gear and FF, then tactics (weapon/shield switch ect)and also luck with stuns/crits.
don't come with "my build Warrior/Cleric rapes every1" cuz "my build glavier rapes Warrior/cleric every time"

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
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+1 Albel. Warrior/cleric is awesome in 1on1. Anyway ragnorak , seeing I have problems with warrior/clerics myself , what tactics do u use? It just sxcks when I pill of dull, I get binded with cleric followed by sprint assualt + kd + tripple + double. There isnt much I can do vs dual axe stun + DD with an crit either.

Best bet I think is shield switching + fire wall but those only make the fight last longer.


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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:10 pm 
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who ever is full farmed will win >.>

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:38 pm 
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What do you think is more important for a full str glavie to win fight?
a)+5 weapon over +3 one
b) blues

Oh .. what skills should glavier use from force mastery?


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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
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sawney wrote:
Vintage wrote:
its not about characters or skills really.. its about pvp.. lol

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stop spammin >_< someone delete her post plz
hey im a man :x :x :x

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 Post subject: Re: In Pvp
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dutchleader wrote:
+1 Albel. Warrior/cleric is awesome in 1on1. Anyway ragnorak , seeing I have problems with warrior/clerics myself , what tactics do u use? It just sxcks when I pill of dull, I get binded with cleric followed by sprint assualt + kd + tripple + double. There isnt much I can do vs dual axe stun + DD with an crit either.

Best bet I think is shield switching + fire wall but those only make the fight last longer.


I have Prot set +5 (no nukers don't' rape me)
Watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vbSUrwvTjc

some few thing I do diff now,
vs warrior/cleric +5 weapon>>>I don't need snow shield/vigors, just regular shied/glavie switch (quick slot both shied/glavie next to each other, change by clicking not pressing a key, much faster)
Vs +7 weapon, I use snow shield just to be safe from 2x crits, no vigors needed.
Vs sun +7 snow shield/Xlarge MP, Vigors are a must, a crit can drain mana so vigors will quickly recover it. most warriors use axe for stun/bleed but easy to pill off and even if stun, if the 2hands decided to use DD u will have time to switch to shield in time cuz the atk. is very slow....firewall is very helpful when skins/bless is on but don't use it when not in bless/skins, u will only have a short time to kill b/w the recovery of bless/skins. when snow shield runs out odds are that you will get kill if you don't stun/kb maybe when I get 90 chest/necklace it will make a diff. or sun gear.

Note: the majority of the warriors I pvp are too scared to atk without bless/skins so they use shield trash/selfbuff/healing and wait for there buff, depending on ur luck of not getting knock back u can still kill them by stun/crits ect. the worse case scenario the pvp starts ALL over again with bless/skins till both of u get bore and stop.

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