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Hi, I'm kinda new too silkroad so i read some guides here and decided on making a full str glaive for my first build. I am lvl 26 now and have a couple questions. First question is
1. I calculated how much sp id need to farm for 5 gap and it was only like 40k sp which i got and I calculated how much sp i would need to farm for 4 gap which was like 180k sp. Is there a big difference in lvling time between 4/5 gap at higher lvls?

2. I decided to take lion shout since i have no range till like 31 or something so I don't have to run as much.Is it worth putting more than 1 in it its seems it would help when i become hunter or thief later in game for pulling npc and plvling later?

3. Guides I read had masteries at 90 weapon/fire/lightning 30 ice.
would 90 weapon/fire 72 lightning 48 ice be a good build for job/pvp or should I just stick with guides.

1. For a 4 lvl gap, you get 60% of the original mob exp. For a 5 lvl gap, you get 50%. Just do the caculation.

2. Lion Shout.. deal.. 50 damage at mobs your lvl lol. Kinda waste of time . I added 1 level of it to try it out but well its useless anyway.


3. The build you suggested is probably from looking at the other guy topic. Its not a bad build but i personally dont even use cold at all regularly as a pure str glaiver myself. In theory that build is as good as any other but well im barely 36 myself so i cant say much lol.

Ok thnx for your answer. About Lionshout i wasn't looking to use it for grinding much past 31, When i get ranged skill but more if it was helpful in jobbing for mob control and if it was worth lvling for use in Plvling to make some money at higher lvls. I was hoping a high lvl would comment on the masteries part. I didn't know there was another post about those if I could get link pls.

Lets just say... your regular attacks without imbue would do at least twice the damage of lion shout from what i've tried.

The mobs control part isnt that useful. If you really need one, i say just get the level 13 cold wave. Its ranged and you can use it to lure mobs to you and slow. I'll take a slow ( it doesnt do that much but hey its a lvl 13 skill ) , over a 50 damage nuke anyday.

Also, I dont think pure str glaive are supposed to be good plevelers and a wizard will own the shit out of us pure str glaiver at plvling anyday.

As for the topic, i cant find it but maybe someone else will find it.

1. You get 10% less exp with every additional gap you have. So if you have 0 gap, you get 100% exp. If you have a 4 gap, you get 60% exp. If you have a 5 gap you get 50% exp. Max gap is 9 gap, equals 10% exp. So, between 4 gap and 5 gap, there is approximately a 20% increase in the time it will take you to level up. At higher levels you will notice this difference as it takes days to weeks to months to level up. It took me about 3 weeks to get from 80 to 81 with a zero gap, about 5-8 hours a day killing mages.

2. If you are low level and want to pull, instead of wasting some skill points you could get a cheap bow, and some arrows, switch to it and use that to pull, then switch back. This will deal more damage, get 2 shots in before they get to you, and you save SP.

3. If you are looking for a build in Job/PvP, I suggest 90 Heuksal/90Fire/90Force/30Lightning. With Force you'll be able to ressurect your teammates, and deal additional damage utilizing your Vital Spots, as well as reduce the enemies attacks, good for offense, defense, and friendliness. Without Force, you will have a hard time killing any other Str character, and will only be able to rely on simultaneous critical hits.

Speed actually isn't necessary in PvP; it is mainly used to just assist you in PvE. If your enemy happens to run away from you, that means he's probably weaker than you. The only condition you would need speed in PvP is against bowers, however, by the time you need the speed you'll be able to afford drugs. You can increase your speed by using garments.

The additional parry from lightning is a great bonus, as level 30 lightning already gives 34 parry (17 from passive, and 17 from an activated buff), and a nice 7% boost in magical damage. The speed increase is 38% from 30 lightning.

Compare this to level 90 lightning, which requires a load more SP, you would get 67 Parry (less than half for level 30 lightning. 33 from passive, and 34 from activated buff), 18% increase in magic damage (not very significant for Str, but I guess it could help; not as much as force though), 77% increased movement speed, and 23.5m instantaneous movement radius. Do not forget by the time you could make good use of the speed, you will be able to afford drugs, which gives 100% increase in movement speed.

All of this is not worth an extra 160,155 SP. You could acquire level 30 lightning and all its buff skills with a mere 2,406 SP. Not to mention the level 30 lightning buffs are already more than half as good as level 90, at a much much MUCH less cost of SP.

If you have any questions on what I said, or any other questions feel free to ask.

I am glavie lvl 56 and i want to buy +5 glavie ... now there isnt much of a offer .. there is 1 selling for 30M .. also .. do you thing adding stones to my armor is better idea then selling them any buying better stuff? Oh, i only got INT stones ... cant kinda get STR tablets.

Oh .. how much skill points does vital spot require? Can i use low lvl vital spot to do some dmg?


ALSO:

Is it worth being glavie? I am leveling pretty slow now ... is it worth it? oR IS nuker a better choise? Oh .. and i am leveling at 0 gap

You must be on a new server, because 30m for a 56+5 glaive is pretty expensive on mine. How much do luck stones cost? You could get a nice cheap 56 glaive, throw on a couple lucky stones and get +5 in a couple tries. If it goes to +3 easy use the luck stones to get it to +4 and +5. This could save you a lot of money, instead of buying a pre +5'd one. But don't buy the weapon for its glow, damage is more important of course. Attack Rating helped a lot more than I thought it would, so in terms of increasing damage, a good weapon with a good attack rating deals good damage. But don't forget physical attack, physical reinforce, and the almighty critical.

**Side Story about attack rating and my experience**
I had a 85+7 glaive with 61% physical attack, 81% physical reinforce and 9 crit, with 0% attack rating(it was like 160 or so). I wasn't satisfied with 61% physical attack and I wanted 80%+. So I tried to fix it and assimilated my physical reinforce, and my physical attack went down to 0%, not to mention my magical reinforce went to 0% also. So I ran out of Courage Stones(phy atk), and then ran out of Warrior Stones(phy reinforce), but I had a couple Focus stones(attack rating). So I used a couple and got 81% on the second try. Went out to collect more tablets and I did nearly the same amount of damage on the same monsters I was fighting on as I had done before the assimilation. Later I fixed everything on my glaive, and became satisfied with 61% physical attack, after that bad experience. I'll try again later (maybe).
What can you learn from this story?
Attack rating has an active roll in increasing damage.

Yes you can use Vital spot to deal additional damage. There is one you can get at level 30 called Vital Spot-Muscle, which reduces the enemies parry ratio, allowing you to hit higher. And there is another one you can get at level 60 called Vital Spot-Body, which reduces the enemies physical defense, further increasing damage. These can be used simultaneously. At Level 70 you can get Vital Spot-Mind, which reduces enemies magical defense. And at level 90 you get Vital Spot-Brain, which decreases both magical and physical defense. However the duration of these debuffs aren't long, and in order for it to work, you'd have to cast it on each individual enemy. Therefore it is not wise to use it for PvE, but for PvP.
The cost of SP for Vital Spot Series can be found >>here<<. It provides you the cost of SP for each level of each individual skill, and the total sum for the skill itself.
The cost of SP to get force from 0-30 is 1,220 SP. From 0-60 is 12,764 SP. And from 0-90 is 74,506 SP. To get all skills to max which can increase damage including leveling force from 0-90, it will cost 116,862 SP. And all skills in the Vital Spot Series including 90 force, will cost 133,200 SP.


Str Glaiver are superior to Int Nukers.
Str Glaive/Fire
Lots of HP (from Str)
Wears garment (Most do, I do) = high magical defense
Fanning Spear Series (15 second buff to greatly increase mag def)
Fire Protection Series (Buff to increase mag def)
Fire Shield Series (Buff to reduce status effect)
Cheolsom Force Series (Passive increase in HP)
Passive and Active increase in Physical Damage

If you have Force you can:
Reduce enemy Hit Ratio (Vital Spot-Spirit, lessen enemy damage)
Reduce enemy Physical and Magical Attack (Vital Spot-Zero)
Cure Status Effect (Cure Therapy Series)
Resurect Teammates to help you (Rebirth Art Series)

Int Nuker
There are a lot of variations, but most of them will have:
High magical damage (insignificant because you have high magical defense and high life to tank it)
Low HP (because they are pure int)
Snow Shield (they are HIGHLY dependent on this, useless without. If you can tank them, which you should be able to, for at least 2 minutes they are dead. You could even do a few laps around a rock just to knock off some of the time)
Protector/Armor (for an increase in physical defense, however their life is too low to tank even in this)
Ranged attacks (though it takes them 3 seconds about to cast it)
No Critical hits.

Nukers level up faster because they do more damage naturally. So if you're goal is to level up fast, be a nuker. But if you are PvP oriented Str Glaivers are better than int nukers. The higher your level is, the longer it will take to level up. So if you think it is slow now, it will get even slower later.