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Choose Your Force Mastery
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 Post subject: To Pure Ints: Which Force Mastery Do You Favor..............
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:43 am 
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Except Cold obviously you really need snow shield in the end, and I already voted once for Fire, the rest is up to you guys and you can vote only once...

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im using light/cold and fire :)

if i had to choose between force/fire/light,,

light ofcourse, dmg nearby same as fire, mov speed, mag att incr. and parry ratio

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fire is better with int hybrids :P

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fire imbue + lightning nuke = strongest nuke


force/fire/light will get you dead
force/cold/light is better


i'm building fire/light/cold

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 Post subject: Re: To Pure Ints: Which Force Mastery Do You Favor..............
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EVEN if Fire Nukes were stronger than the 90 Light nuke, the increase from Force Pierncing Series would make the light nuke stronger.\

So LIGHT!

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fire imbue + lightning nuke = strongest nuke

Eh, probably not. Fire has the strongest imbue and nuke. Flame wave wide gets (330%). Add the light mag damage increase to that and you got the strongest chinese nuke.

For me it's 50-50 between fire and light. Let's say fire.

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EVEN if Fire Nukes were stronger than the 90 Light nuke, the increase from Force Pierncing Series would make the light nuke stronger.\

So LIGHT!


Fire nukes are better than light nukes. Period.

Fire nukes have longer range (light nukes have low range), diversity (AoE nuke [330%], Penetrating nuke [315%], and fast single hit nuke [267%]), whereas light nukes are all 300% 1-transfer nukes.

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Light, cuz even tho the dmg it does can be wild and unpredicible, when it does hit its max dmg, there isnt a build alive that can tank it. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: To Pure Ints: Which Force Mastery Do You Favor..............
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Fire is the better Force Mastery for Ints. But, that is only when it is used in conjunction with Lightning and Cold Force Masteries. Light is the backbone of a Chinese Nuker and you can't make a good one without it. The Piercing Series is a necessity. You could drop Cold and try rolling Bicheon/Fire/Lightning wearing Armor which might be enough Physical Defense compensation... But remember that Ice with Garments and S/S gives more defense than Fire with Armor and S/S(Not counting Snow Shield.)

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Light is the backbone of a Chinese Nuker and you can't make a

Hmm I disagree with that 1) point in the case of a spear :) , the fire imbue and nuke do more dmg then the light imbue and nuke, and they deal slightly less when the piercing force series is taken into account, the spear would compensate for the loss, and the fire mastery would give the spear a more balanced defense :) I dont think it would be a wise choice for an s/s how ever since they do less dmg then a spear without their status's.

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 Post subject: Re: To Pure Ints: Which Force Mastery Do You Favor..............
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IDontPlaySRO wrote:
Light is the backbone of a Chinese Nuker and you can't make a

Hmm I disagree with that 1) point in the case of a spear :) , the fire imbue and nuke do more dmg then the light imbue and nuke, and they deal slightly less when the piercing force series is taken into account, the spear would compensate for the loss, and the fire mastery would give the spear a more balanced defense :) I dont think it would be a wise choice for an s/s how ever since they do less dmg then a spear without their status's.


Although right now it may be only a little bit of a difference, the Piercing Series improves Magical Damage a lot the higher level you get. Although it will seems pretty balanced with Higher Physical damage and more Magical defense, at higher levels the damage increase from the Piercing series will be more important. Plus the Magical defense you get from Fire isn't that much.

Also, I suggested Bicheon because it has the defense of S/S plus the passives and defense skills that come with it. But, that was for 90 Bicheon/Fire/Light 30 Cold. I agree though if you only take Fire and Ice that Spear is better overall for it compared to sword.

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I also had a problem with giving up fire, guess I'm just stubborn that way: I found this build to be pleasing to me thus far, even though it loses mobility, it still has it's killing power:

90 bicheon, 90 fire, 90 cold, 30 light

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I don't think Tonic_x s a really good representation of the build. I don't mean that in a bad way though he is actually probably the best nuker I've seen play. He knows exactly what to use and when to use it which a lot of people don't. Chinese are considered button spam because that is what the majority of people do. Just watch some random videos and you'll see Glaivers, Bowers and Nukers use the same skills in the same order over and over and over again. That's how about 90% of people play and you can't expect random people to suddenly start playing the way Tonic does.

BTW if you're Tonic then I commend you. It's surprising and unexpected to see someone who actually nukes and uses KD efficiently instead of just Nuke->KD->2xStab->Combo->Repeat.

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I don't think Tonic_x s a really good representation of the build. I don't mean that in a bad way though he is actually probably the best nuker I've seen play. He knows exactly what to use and when to use it which a lot of people don't. Chinese are considered button spam because that is what the majority of people do. Just watch some random videos and you'll see Glaivers, Bowers and Nukers use the same skills in the same order over and over and over again. That's how about 90% of people play and you can't expect random people to suddenly start playing the way Tonic does.

BTW if you're Tonic then I commend you. It's surprising and unexpected to see someone who actually nukes and uses KD efficiently instead of just Nuke->KD->2xStab->Combo->Repeat.


Nah, I'm not Tonic_x, but he reminds me of the way I used to use my nuker. Sadly, it's exactly how you said, most ppl just button mash and apply the same combos over and over again. Knowing what to do, and when to use it is a rare thing nowadays. He's inspired me to prolly pick up my nuker again lol.

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On Zeus the vast majoraty of people have 90 fire/ice builds, I prefer light personaly, and you have a good point about the piercing force series, it gets as high as 50% increase IIRC.

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if u go pure force just go fire/light/ice, but its pretty dumb.. should have weapon mastery for sure

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Call me stubborn but I really stick to Fire for these following reasons:

*Fire Force Imbue(Highest dmg imbue among the 3 elements)
*Fire Shield Series(Decreases stat effects)
*Flame Body(Ignored, since I'm pure int)
*Fire Protection(For mag. def buff)
*Fire Wall(Wizards can't 1 hit me)
*Flame Wave(The nukes in fire, I consider the fire nukes as a high dmg
nuke similar to lighning)
*Fire Combustion(For stealth detect)
*Flame Devil Force(Ignored, for str's only)
And these are the reasons why I stick to Fire nothing I can ask more...
And guys did you ever just wonder in the 2nd book in Flame Wave Burning which is Flame Wave Hellfire in the 1st book it is (300%) but in the 2nd it's already (316%), so there's a (16%) difference so you don't need to cry for Piercing Force Series in Lightning which adds (16%) mag dmg...

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After some thinking I really have to agree that Weapon/Fire/Cold is probably the way to go. I think the Stronger Imbue, Nukes and Physical Damage boost are good compensation. You lose your mobility but your Fire Nukes give more range and nobody really runs in PvP much anyway. But you should consider the lost mobility a fault in the build because being able to buff yourself well is important for Chinese. And the loss of Ghost Walk is especially hard on Nukers.

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Light is a must for int builds.

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But you should consider the lost mobility a fault in the build because being able to buff yourself well is important for Chinese. And the loss of Ghost Walk is especially hard on Nukers.
After some thinking I really have to agree that Weapon/Fire/Cold is probably the way to go. I think the Stronger Imbue, Nukes and Physical Damage boost are good compensation. You lose your mobility but your Fire Nukes give more range and nobody really runs in PvP much anyway. But you should consider the lost mobility a fault in the build because being able to buff yourself well is important for Chinese. And the loss of Ghost Walk is especially hard on Nukers.


You mean it is chinese nuker's fault because unlike the wizard that can stealth and hit and run lol...

If you're a real nuker you always do precise attacks because nukers are "damage dealers", only chicken nukers who always do hit and run...

Well if that's your kind of build it's all up to you, I have no problem with other's builds because each one of us have a unique type of build.

And by the way a nuker without "Fire Wall" will suffer great damage when a wizard do stealth ambush attack... So becareful..."I'm not saying that Fire Wall is effective but it can help...

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so there's a one who voted for force >.<

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Im leveling with lightning only with a gap of 1. My bro told me to do it because that one guy on Gaia did it. So i guess i can't really figure things out for my self. :?

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Im leveling with lightning only with a gap of 1. My bro told me to do it because that one guy on Gaia did it. So i guess i can't really figure things out for my self. :?


This is where the lightning 'n 1 gap quick leveling came from: http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=47963

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Im leveling with lightning only with a gap of 1. My bro told me to do it because that one guy on Gaia did it. So i guess i can't really figure things out for my self. :?



I agree go lightning if you wanna level fast..
Because lightning has grass walk for speed and phantom walk for teleportation and some nukes with high mag dmg, can easily kill mobs with thunder bolt skill + grass walk for speed = fast kill and exp.

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Im leveling with lightning only with a gap of 1. My bro told me to do it because that one guy on Gaia did it. So i guess i can't really figure things out for my self. :?



I agree go lightning if you wanna level fast..
Because lightning has grass walk for speed and phantom walk for teleportation and some nukes with high mag dmg, can easily kill mobs with thunder bolt skill + grass walk for speed = fast kill and exp.


I agree, and that's why I prefer light :)

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