Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)

bryanvan · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1010 **Location:**

I have a Cleric/Wizard lvl 50 atm full farmed. I was doing some solo lately cuz theres simply no single pt on venus T_T ...

And I noticed that I only use cleric in party's. I also noticed that a bard can get in partys quite sooner then normal ppl can and that noise +speed is great. I lacked speed alot when I was doing solo the other day.

I was planning to go Wizard/Cleric after 60 or 70 but now I am considering Bard... ( I dun care bout doing curst hearts)

So I just wanna know some pros and cons about both Bard & Cleric as sub for Wizard and some personal experience.

EDIT::: How much Silk will it cost me to dlvl Cleric from 44-10 or 0? All skills maxed till 44.

CloudStrider · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 2125 **Location:** Away

bryanvan wrote:

I have a Cleric/Wizard lvl 50 atm full farmed. I was doing some solo lately cuz theres simply no single pt on venus T_T ...

And I noticed that I only use cleric in party's. I also noticed that a bard can get in partys quite sooner then normal ppl can and that noise +speed is great. I lacked speed alot when I was doing solo the other day.

I was planning to go Wizard/Cleric after 60 or 70 but now I am considering Bard... ( I dun care bout doing curst hearts)

So I just wanna know some pros and cons about both Bard & Cleric as sub for Wizard and some personal experience.

Hmmm, I was thinking about this.

I read something about Cleric is that good because even with it you'll won't be able to tank that much.

Zanam · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

hes a wiz what kind of tanking will he be doing. If i was you id go bard. ull get into more parties.

CloudStrider · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 2125 **Location:** Away

WTH.

That is what I meant, Cleric helps warriors because it adds to their tank capability greatly, Wizards are not meant too, meaning even with buffs, they will not get that much more power rendering that sub not too good.

/spelled out'd

Guardia · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1187 **Location:**

Pt in venus came in waves. Those 5X's are already at 6Xs or even at chasers pt now. Either solo for now or wait till new waves coming. If you have to solo, go sub bard. That's what i did before.

bryanvan · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1010 **Location:**

I don't wanna solo I can't tank shit 1 hit from penon and im dead. And I am not in the mood to wait for parties I outlvld every1 at sungs in less then 2 days i got from 36 to 46 in 2 days cuz of penon partys.

There are a few pegs PT's but not much...

bryanvan · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1010 **Location:**

EDITED POST***

Zanam · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

Right now the waves are at Mujigis and Guards.

Alfred · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 1545 **Location:** .se

bryanvan wrote:

EDIT::: How much Silk will it cost me to dlvl Cleric from 44-10 or 0? All skills maxed till 44.

F10 + S

bryanvan · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1010 **Location:**

Alfred wrote:

bryanvan wrote:

EDIT::: How much Silk will it cost me to dlvl Cleric from 44-10 or 0? All skills maxed till 44.

F10 + S

?

Alfred · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 1545 **Location:** .se

Press F10 to check the price of the silk relocation potions. You get 5 in one stack.

Press S to calculate how many times you'll have to delevel.

bryanvan · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1010 **Location:**

I'm lazy...

Anyway need some more opinions.

Alfred · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 1545 **Location:** .se

You call it lazy, I call it pathetic.

Take bard and you will be supporting MP
Take cleric and you will be supporting HP

Take bard and you will increase the attack and defense for the party
Take cleric and you will increase the attack and defense for the party

Take bard and you will have the 3 fastest nukes in game
Take cleric and you will have the highest hitting nuke in game

Both have absolute damage skills; cleric do more damage and bard has a shorter recast time

Cleric can protect you from bad statuses and both can heal them.

Bard: Speed, can unaggro mobs, prevent normal mobs from attacking yourself, make a target unable to move, etc...

Cleric: 3 different resurrection skills, 45 sec of being almost unkillable, make a target unable to move, etc...

There you go. Time to choose.

bryanvan · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1010 **Location:**

Lool...

Ty ><

Alfred · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 1545 **Location:** .se

Yw ><

KylieMinogue · **Posted:** Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:14 pm

i was thinking of moving to Venus, but then i realized, i have to farm if I'm wiz/bard.

my guess is gap 5 for that build. So............ at 30, my Noise level would still be only preemptive to level 30, LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME.

Argonaut · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1162 **Location:**

KylieMinogue wrote:

i was thinking of moving to Venus, but then i realized, i have to farm if I'm wiz/bard.

my guess is gap 5 for that build. So............ at 30, my Noise level would still be only preemptive to level 30, LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME.

Well, farming isnt as hard as you think. Farming at chasers should go as fast as a plvl at ongs, and you also get 9d drops.

bryanvan · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1010 **Location:**

Well there aren't always pt's xD I noticed that I only need 30k sp to max all bard skills to 50

Smoked · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 80 **Location:**

I think I've partied, powerpartied your parties several times. There are sometimes 2 full parties going at caves at this time. Bards are always needed as evidenced by some bards lacking in skill and having attention deficit disorders getting to 7x's extremely quickly but that's how the game works. A good cleric is always needed/wanted at pegs/guards right now. Lvl 44 is min for pegs (to guarentee not fail). You may have to slow down on your wiz masteries and bring your clerics up. Anyway most of the peg parties are centered around a decent cleric right now. Post the party and you never know who may show up to help.

Mishiru · **Posted:** Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:42 pm

bryanvan wrote:

I have a Cleric/Wizard lvl 50 atm full farmed. I was doing some solo lately cuz theres simply no single pt on venus T_T ...

And I noticed that I only use cleric in party's. I also noticed that a bard can get in partys quite sooner then normal ppl can and that noise +speed is great. I lacked speed alot when I was doing solo the other day.

I was planning to go Wizard/Cleric after 60 or 70 but now I am considering Bard... ( I dun care bout doing curst hearts)

So I just wanna know some pros and cons about both Bard & Cleric as sub for Wizard and some personal experience.

EDIT::: How much Silk will it cost me to dlvl Cleric from 44-10 or 0? All skills maxed till 44.

for solo bard
for pt cleric.

for cleric more sp
for bard less sp

Smoked · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 80 **Location:**

bryanvan wrote:

Well there aren't always pt's xD I noticed that I only need 30k sp to max all bard skills to 50

Just because it's not posted doesn't mean there aren't parties. Take the initiative to go to north and south secret and see who's on or make friends that are 5X's. There's a wave of low to mid 50's including bullrush, Rahvan, Neoxxxx(#'s but i dont care to memorize them), Whiff, Firetruck, ScarletWitch, AngeIus, Mummmmywiz, Nanssy, GothRickZ, Buchiboy. #1 way to get into parties, make some friends in your time zone. You'd be surprised how many pm's you'll get just logging on, especially if you establish yourself as a pro cleric.

bryanvan · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1010 **Location:**

Yea :/ I know I lately logoff there and login next day to find/make pegs pt

Smoked · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 80 **Location:**

bryanvan wrote:

Yea :/ I know I lately logoff there and login next day to find/make pegs pt

You just changed your signature again so obviously you've been making exp quickly.

Alfred · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 1545 **Location:** .se

Mishiru wrote:

[ for solo bard
for pt cleric.

no

for solo bard or cleric

for pt bard or cleric

Blindfire · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 3844 **Location:** ...

Personally, I would take bard. For one, there is a much better chance of you getting into parties since there are 5 spots that could be yours. (2 bard spots, 3 wizard spots).

Kirkaldi · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 3083 **Location:** nyc

Wizard/Warlock FTW. It's epic but it's a sp eater.

bryanvan · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1010 **Location:**

Smoked wrote:

bryanvan wrote:

Yea :/ I know I lately logoff there and login next day to find/make pegs pt

You just changed your signature again so obviously you've been making exp quickly.

Ye

We got powerpartied by Mai :love:

Kirkaldi wrote:

Wizard/Warlock FTW. It's epic but it's a sp eater.

lol just lol

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