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Well it isnt only that but also competiton, when your playing with a coupple of friends you always want to be the best, doesnt have to be friends but thats the most likely situation were you would start to bot.

Ive always felt that playerbots arnt really a problem (except for the ones grinding several characters at once) but that goldbots are the reason I was pissed from time to time.
Because the player would most likely play either way, but this way at least he doesnt grow to be a social failiure which he would be if he played 16 hours a day.

Of course u can laugh, but by laughing, u'll get insults and I despise u for ignorant.

First of all, a bot want to get capped farmed as fast as possible but they dont dare to buy accounts.
Second, they dont know what they are doing and they dont know what their actions will cause. The game is dying for over 2 years but still they think it's natural

If you, 0l3n, dont know the cause too, call yourself an ignorant. And if are aware but still continue the destruction, consider yourself having an evil heart. The evil generates selfishness, self-centering, not thinking about other ppl, let ppl die to save yourself, etc...

Plz tell me u still dont know what cause the destruction of the game? Then i can laugh my ass off louder and bigger.

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Wow, your still taking the game to seriusly.

What you do in a game has !NOTHING! to do with the "evil in your heart".
I scammed countless amounts of people back in the day when I was playing runescape but yet I was one of the nicest people any of my friends knew. Killing someone are beating someone bloody in real life makes you (in your words) Evil, scamming someone in a game does not!

I am well aware of what bots have done to the game but I dont CARE!
Why you ask? Because its a game and the owners of that game dont want to fix the thing we call a problem!

The reason bots dont buy accounts I can guess is because it costs alot. Hell i havnt wasted a nickle on a game for 10 years because its just that... a game! I would much rather do something else with my money than to pay for a free game.

IMO the only real legits are the ones that arnt paying because they are the only ones without an unfair advantage. If you are against bots dont buy premium tickets either.
Do not support a company that doesnt support you.

This right here is one of the most frightening posts I've read on this forum. If you really believe what you wrote, I think you need to get out more and interact with human beings or maybe get a bit of therapy. Your comments are verging on the sociopathic.

and why is that?

Here is the fallacy in your views. Player bots run the gold bots. So player bots ARE the PROBLEM. And as silo said and I have said before; a busy life is not an excuse. You can choose not to play for a few days to take care of things IRL. It is not as if your actual life is threatened if you don't level. It is not like you will not get that new job if you don't level. It is not like you will not pass that test of you don't level. It is not like you will not be able to feed your family if you don't level. It is not like grandma will not get that surgery if you don't level.

Let me put this as plainly and clearly as is possible. THE ONLY EXCUSE FOR BOTTING IS JEALOUSY. Pure and simple end of story. Botters are jealous of those who have more time to devote to the game. And this has nothing to do with having a life or not. This is all about just having time. Jealousy is just not a good excuse.

How do the player bots run the gold bots? Since I lack some of the technical side of botting due to the fact that Ive never tried it, please explain.

Too many feelings come into play. Legit vs Botters, cool vs assholes. You gonna have legit players who are cool or assholes same thing with botters. Complaining is an outlet for frustration. It's a part of the game. no matter where you go or play you always gonna have botters, and legit players. Either you accept it w/ or w/o complaints and continue to play or quit and looks for another game but the cycles never ends.

Just for example:


All things being equal, if you can honestly make both of those claims in the same sentence, then you've got some problems.

You understand just fine you are simply sandbagging for them is all. Basically all gold bots are run by player bots. Though not all player bots run gold bots. This is basic knowledge you are feigning ignorance to. That still does not make 2 classes of player bots the bad and the worse. They are both still as bad.

An asshole legit has to log off some time. But even a "cool" botter and his farm fleet can KS me 24/7. I choose the asshole legit.

Since Im pretty much Artist corner only and have always been ive suggested several time that people not get banned from the AC and maybe the OTL (but that is something for the OTL'ers(?) to say) since these sections should have nothing to do with SRO and thus an SRO based ban shouldnt have anything to do with the AC at least. That section is pretty much dead after they banned a few people from there.



Like ive been trying to say, things done in a game has nothing to do with who you are.
The fact that people cant get that through their heads is really sad.



Actually I didnt understand since I dont have any experience when it comes to goldbots, the information i get comes from friends and people I talk to who bot.
But thank you for clearing it up and this is a discussion, why would I act stupid if thats what your saying?

A question here, dont goldbots run like 20+ clients?
When I say player bots I mean people with 1 character and botting it.

So let me ask you a question. You come to my house and we play Monopoly. Each time I get up to grab a drink or go to the bathroom, you grab some money out of the bank. You're saying this "has nothing to do with who you are" because it's "just a game?"

Or maybe we play tennis and you continually call balls that land in as having landed "out". Honor and respect in tennis usually dictate that you make calls against yourself. But this doesn't matter because it's a game?

Or if you win a marathon by taking a shortcut?

Or if you palm cards playing poker?

None of these actions in any way indicate the type of person you are because they are "just games?"

Or do you distinguish between games played over the internet and games played with real people next to you. It's bad to cheat in real life but you believe that rules and honor and respect are somehow suspended over the internet. You don't really need to follow the rules if the communication is conveyed electronically. Is that it?

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No matter how nicely you act, a fucker is always a fucker. Once the soul deep inside you is rotten by the evil. To stay safe, it has to hide behind a monitor to do all the lame thing that he wants. He doesnt dare to do it in real life coz of scaring the law. While for a kind man, a pure soul is never changed no matter the situtation : in RL, in game, in the dream.

Dream always reflects the true self of your soul. It honestly express what your soul really want. By just looking your post above, i can guess that your dream is mostly about "cheating" on ppl.

I dream to have magic. That's why in 99.9% of my dream, i have magic: i can fly, creating objects, teleport like my will. Yes, i enjoy to sleep coz all of them are good (using magic, having sex ) Only 0.1% is nightmare (only when i got really sick), but actually it's not nightmare coz im not really scared. But as i grow up, my mind become stronger, i can control the dream. When there was any nightmare, i know how to fight back the "ghost" in the dream.

Anyway, i dont take the game too serious, but it doesnt mean that u can take it too easy. Be aware that u INTERACT with players who is REAL, and not a computer AI ~ -.- Therefore, if u treat ppl like GARBAGE, u'll get an INSULT!

you hit the nail on the head..the nail was you.

how you play INGAME has, as 0l3n has been saying, nothing to do with who you are in real life. of you cheat in real life, that sais something. no1 cares on t3h 1nt3rn375!!1!one!

I have the feeling that you're joking but just in case you actually believe this, then please explain the difference. I just have a hard time believing that you guys think there is a fundamental difference between sitting in front of your computer cheating and sitting in front of a boardgame cheating. I'm just not capable of being so intellectually disingenuous myself so people who say this crap intrigue me. I find it fascinating the extent people will go to lie to themselves in order to justify behavior they know is wrong. And yes, I know, it's like being fascinated by car accidents. Sue me.

because the thing is, that no1 cares if someone cheats ingame. you don't see him you don't know him, you don't think 'omg botter, how could he have gone to darkside, i didn't actually know him but i care anyway'. you think 'k another botter..w/e' i'll just go somewhere else. the internet has no extent and no real law. also cheaters/hackers ussually do it to simply go fast. you dont get jealous at them, you don't care or think they're pathetic. that doesn't mean that they are like that in real life. they're probably bored people in some office with a crappy boss.

you know those women on the internet? most of them are male

To n.e.m (cool if I call you that?): Cheating in a friendly game isnt a big deal. Why? Because there is no loss. Its all still good fun.

Cheating in a contest of some sort on the other hand is. Beacause someone looses something valuable.

(getting tired so no more long posts)

To Nuclear: Ehm... your talk about evil and soul proves my point. Your taking it to seriusly.
On the other hand I do agree about the thing you said about dreams, I to beleve that dreams reflect what he/she wants and the means of which he/she wishes to get it.

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that pretty much sums it up, games are not of high inportance in real-life, if they are...you need to go to a doctor. therefor cheating is irrelevent and doing dope during the olympics mean ur dead.

Plz tell me also that what u wrote in the internet doesnt reflect u in real life too. I began to feel more asshole narrow-minded members are showing their true self.


Here is an ex: Code: Select all
Call that a competition, not skill competition but cheat competition. Maybe the actor feels good and proud, but... listen to the audience's voice.

And if u are badly-informed about the gold bots, i'll open your mind once again.

Gold bots in sro are not just come from gold companies, but also player bots. They are originally from the gold companies, then the player bots wants to economize the real money, they make their own gold bots. Not only the gold is sufficient for their spending, but the exceed they sell to the gold companies. Recently, the rev6 released a free gold bot, so there are even more gold bots that before. Most agbot user will have one at least.

What's wrong is that some legit players has misunderstood, and the botters use the lame excuse "what destroy the game are the gold bots, not the player bots". Check this section again, there were dozens of SRF members who admitted running 40 clients. Were they worker from the gold companies? No. They work alone, and their gold bots are personal gold bots, it's not a companie. The word "companie" are just a shield of the bots who use to run away from their responsibility.


Why not? Do u know if i care or not? U can read my mind?

Just because u dont care, doesnt automatically logically means that other ppl feel the same.

If u scam my money, scam my items, hack my account. U really think that i dont care? Who do u think i am? A God that would forgive any sin?

So you believe cheating is acceptable over the internet because of the anonymity it provides? Because you don't actually "know" them, it's okay to cheat when you play against them or its okay to scam them?

This is the sentiment I find scary.

Are we raising a generation of sociopaths? People who don't acknowledge the humanity of others because of the wires that separate them? People who wantonly disregard morality because their victims aren't sitting next to them?

Yes. That really is a scary thought.

Thanks for explenation. The botters I were talking about would be the people who bot a single character.

About the video. Thats what I meant when I said a competition. In a sports match of any kind involves money, and if you loose due to your opponents cheating you have lost something that in real life is important.

Since this is a discussion mind being well... more "kind"?

So it's about money? It's okay to cheat if it doesn't involve money but not okay to cheat if it does involve money?

ehhm no, in real life i wouldn't continue in an argument to start with unless it's a friendly argument.

now to my point: ur vid was of examples in real life -__-. yes than cheating is an important factor becaue there is something that can be won.

also, remember that member, christy?
here's sometihng HE posted on a different forum.



credit to Stallowned

I appreciate all your posts about boys pretending to be girls but they're a bit off-topic in a thread about justifications for cheating. If you want to start a thread about lying, that's fine. But lets keep this one to cheating and why you believe it's justified.

EDIT: And it looks like you have a new rationalization. It's okay to cheat when there's nothing to be "won" but it isn't okay to cheat if there is. Is that what you want to say?

Money was onle an example... and you know what I meant.

if this is fro games, say a tournament then yes(sure cheating is never preffered, but what do you wanna do? kill him?). if not then cheating overall is bad. that's all
but the whole point is that your behaiviore on the internet does nto neceserilly reflect you.

I'm just trying to figure out when I can cheat and feel good about it. So far, I've learned that it's okay to cheat:

1) Over the internet;

2) If it doesn't involve money; or

3) If "winning" can't be specifically defined.

And yes, you've figured out that I'm actually baiting/teasing you. If you've read any of the behavioral studies on cheating, you'd realize that nothing you've said is in any way novel or persuasive. They're the same rationalizations that have always been given and always will be given. I was hoping that by challenging you a bit, you might begin to get a bit of introspection and realize how silly you sound. My little Socratic method, as it were. I have no illusions that you won't continue to justify your behavior with ever more outlandish justifications, but it has been a fun diversion. Now I need to work.

So you have never cheated or lied in your entire life?

Again, i still always hear in your mind : "a botter who runs a single bot doesnt contribute to the go down of the game".
KS mode, or even turn it off, train with super high speed nuker!! I once visit Venus, the least bot server, @ red flower lvl 34. ZOOMMGG!! 10 bots in 20m². There is NONE spot that spawn a free flower that none bots attack. ZOOOMMMGGG!!! Nuker in garment! 1 hit kill + 50% movement speed. Even if u can find a spot that spawn a free mob, for each spawn u have to wait about 15s...

No lost in money in a free game? How about those who spend money on silk, training speed decreased by 2? How about those who quit the game after spending hundreds of dollars on silk? How about the famous equation (TIME=MONEY)? How about those who got hacked, got scammed after spending effort to work his ass off to buy a sosun that cost a billion of gold?

Then u are trying to convince me that there is NONE lost in a game?
The time and the effort have precious values that money in real life cant buy.

cheat yes, but that's represent only 0.001% of my life time till now. But the only thing im sure is that i cheated very less than u.


It doesnt reflect the whole you, but only the dark side of you. For some ppl, 80% are dark (really a asshole cheater ******), other 50% (general cheater selfish), 30% (ppl who consider "it's just a game", making joke, but will giving pain to ppl at any time if it gives him profit), 1% (really a good person, never gives pain to other, and they play for other).

And of course, in real life, the dark side needs to hide and show the light side, otherwise they'll have a big problem for fighting the laws. Call that also "hinding behind a monitor". COWARD!

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