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 Post subject: Party builds
PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:28 am 
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Hi, well, ive did this for hear some opinions and info about kinds of party builds.
This would be useful for low-mid lvl chars (38 and less) which are thinking about what type of class must add to their parties, and avoid the failure of the party, which almost always occurs when all party members are dead in spot.
This would help too to avoid plvls and solos which could be hard for euros, so they can start a new party and look if the party must have more offensive, deffensive, depending of lvl of all party members.
Posted in venus because here are mainly euros.

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Warrior=War
Wizard=Wiz
Bard=Bard? :D
Cleric=Cler
Warlock=Lock

Very Offensive Party: 2war 4wiz 1cler 1bard
Offensive Party: 2war 3wiz 1bard 1cler 1lock
Standard Party: 2war 2wiz 2bard 1cler 1lock
Deffensive Party: 3war 3wiz 1cler 1bard
Very Deffensive party: 3war 2wiz 2cler 1bard

Im posting this, because i usually see that half of parties created for sungs, bungs mainly, fails and party dies. So, new parties can make a build more deffensive for avoid fails.

To rogues: sry :( , they dun support a party, make new topic for discuss that if you want.
Wanna hear your suggesions. And fixes for builds upper

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:47 am 
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Well, for pve? The one you label'd as standard would be the only one I'll party with. I refuse to get anything aside from the normal. =P (Unless its another wiz instead of lock but thats normal too). You need 3 wiz (or 2 and a warlock) to kill the mobs fast enough, the longer it takes to kill mobs, the better chance a tanks going to die. The 2 bards make killing the mobs go buy much faster, along with giving mp easy. The 2 warriors are needed to buff, you really shouldn't need more then that, if you do, that means the warriors are doing a crappy job. One cleric is all you will ever need, he's got enough buffs to go around to everyone, and since only 2 people should be getting hit, healing is doable by one person. They really all rely on each other, if the party is unbalanced, it's going to die, no matter how many clerics there are.

For PVP though, you can do a few different things. Not sure exactly what a perfect pvp party would be.

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:46 am 
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perfect pvp party...

3 tanks 2 wizards 1 cleric 1 bard 1 warlock

bards can atk too...

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
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a very offencive party would be 2 warriors, 2 wizards, 1 warlock, 1 cleric, 2 bards. dance + warlock and 2 wizards outdamaged all other combinations.

also, having 4 wizards in the party should always be a no no. cleric needs the buffs.

i would say:

Offencive party: 2 warriors, 2 wizards, 2 bards, cleric and warlock.
Standard party: 2 warriors, 3 wizards, 2 bards, and a cleric.
Defencive party: 2-3 warriors, 3 wizards, 1 bards, and 1-2 clerics.

PVP party: 3 warriors, 4 wizards, 1 cleric. most euros have cleric subclass for rezzing for 1 cleric works fine. wizards can go cleric to absolute when needed. tanks always stay tanks. 1 tank should be useing his extra buffs on the tank that has the cleric buffed.

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:48 am 
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8/8 Full Farmed Warlock Cleric.
PVP only :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:44 am 
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Fly wrote:
a very offencive party would be 2 warriors, 2 wizards, 1 warlock, 1 cleric, 2 bards. dance + warlock and 2 wizards outdamaged all other combinations.

also, having 4 wizards in the party should always be a no no. cleric needs the buffs.

i would say:

Offencive party: 2 warriors, 2 wizards, 2 bards, cleric and warlock.
Standard party: 2 warriors, 3 wizards, 2 bards, and a cleric.
Defencive party: 2-3 warriors, 3 wizards, 1 bards, and 1-2 clerics.

PVP party: 3 warriors, 4 wizards, 1 cleric. most euros have cleric subclass for rezzing for 1 cleric works fine. wizards can go cleric to absolute when needed. tanks always stay tanks. 1 tank should be useing his extra buffs on the tank that has the cleric buffed.


I'd assume you can switch out a wiz for a bard instead? And what about rogues, what would you with them, lol. For bigger pvp that is, not grinding of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:42 am 
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Fly wrote:
PVP party: 3 warriors, 4 wizards, 1 cleric. most euros have cleric subclass for rezzing for 1 cleric works fine. wizards can go cleric to absolute when needed. tanks always stay tanks. 1 tank should be useing his extra buffs on the tank that has the cleric buffed.


No bard? Hope you are prepared to either buy my grains or die when I run out of MP... ^^ *muah*

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:23 am 
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2 warriors, 2 wizards, 2 bards, cleric and warlock.

You can't think of a more offensive party than this.

Fly said all I wanted to say.

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:01 am 
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Nope 5 bards 1 cleric and 2 warriors own everyone =]. Every dance & tambour up + super fast bard pew pews.

The party runs into 30 ppl, 14 people Dc from all the fcking effects then the rest get destroyed by 5 booming cords going off at once, and anyone left standing gets weird chord spiked plus 3k bard absolutes :P

Then Guardia shows up and his wolf one shots everybody.


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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:38 pm 
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4 cleric / 4 bard is the best

4* bless spell = bless cycle
3 tambour & 3 dance wizardry/healing and mana

4 sets of cleric asolutes: owns almost anybody if synchronised
4 sets of awesome bard attacks

Awesome healing power.


Support classes for the win.


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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
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"Offencive party: 2 warriors, 2 wizards, 2 bards, cleric and warlock"

i will start putting this as my party name.

P.S if i deny you party its not becuase i hate you its becuase i have your class already :|

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:14 pm 
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Zanam wrote:
"Offencive party: 2 warriors, 2 wizards, 2 bards, cleric and warlock"

i will start putting this as my party name.

P.S if i deny you party its not becuase i hate you its becuase i have your class already :|




Yay half your party is my build.
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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:30 pm 
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Zanam wrote:
"Offencive party: 2 warriors, 2 wizards, 2 bards, cleric and warlock"

i will start putting this as my party name.

P.S if i deny you party its not becuase i hate you its becuase i have your class already :|


oh, kmon. I know you liked having 4 warriors in a pt :P

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:04 pm 
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Zanam wrote:
"Offencive party: 2 warriors, 2 wizards, 2 bards, cleric and warlock"

i will start putting this as my party name.

P.S if i deny you party its not becuase i hate you its becuase i have your class already :|


Agreed, i always try to make a party like this.

Warlock can be excanged for one wizard more.
But warlocks are useful for kill bot KSers.
Decision is from party leader :)

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:11 pm 
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boast wrote:
Zanam wrote:
"Offencive party: 2 warriors, 2 wizards, 2 bards, cleric and warlock"

i will start putting this as my party name.

P.S if i deny you party its not becuase i hate you its becuase i have your class already :|


oh, kmon. I know you liked having 4 warriors in a pt :P


rofl this one time we had 4 warroirs in the party XD i was only 1h they kd and pushed back so much -.-

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 Post subject: Re: Party builds
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:38 pm 
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Nope 5 bards 1 cleric and 2 warriors own everyone =]. Every dance & tambour up + super fast bard pew pews.

The party runs into 30 ppl, 14 people Dc from all the fcking effects then the rest get destroyed by 5 booming cords going off at once, and anyone left standing gets weird chord spiked plus 3k bard absolutes :P

Then Guardia shows up and his wolf one shots everybody.


I lol'd.


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