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 Post subject: ULTIMATE INT BUILD QUESTION :)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:55 pm 
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Hey, im working on an chinese pure int nuker. I still havent fully decided which weapon tree should i pick.
Sword & Shield? Spear?
Sword & Shield :
*takes more SP
*block
*cool chains
*knockdown
*bleed
Spear:
*takes less SP
*does a bit more dmg than Sword nuker
*cool looking spins and hurls with 6 meter long spears :P
*stun
*dull
*More HP

HELP! :x

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:05 pm 
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make a s/s you'll live more, s/s recommend for any unexperence int users.

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 Post subject: Re: ULTIMATE INT BUILD QUESTION :)
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You forgot a few things

Shield can block attacks, has bleed at a high level, can tank a lot better and can add str and int to the shield.

Spear more HP.

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 Post subject: Re: ULTIMATE INT BUILD QUESTION :)
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Cheeze wrote:
You forgot a few things

Shield can block attacks, has bleed at a high level, can tank a lot better and can add str and int to the shield.

Spear more HP.

yeh sorry forgot those. But i wrote block tho. I added dull too for spear. Imo spear is cooler but i think i gotta stick with s/s then if no one gives me some positive feedback of pure int spears..

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 Post subject: Re: ULTIMATE INT BUILD QUESTION :)
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Conventional:
If you're going pure, do S/S.
If you're going int hybrid do Spear.

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 Post subject: Re: ULTIMATE INT BUILD QUESTION :)
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All are based on pure int.

The Most Powerful Nuker(Offensivly):
Pure Int Spear
90 Fire
90 Light
90 Pach
30 Ice

Best Defensive Nuker:(I prefer)
Pure Int S/S
90 Light
90 Ice
90 Bich
30 Fire

Balanced Nuker: ( I prefer)
Pure Int S/S
90 Fire
90 Ice
90 Bich
30 Fire

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 Post subject: Re: ULTIMATE INT BUILD QUESTION :)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:22 am 
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nohunta wrote:
All are based on pure int.

The Most Powerful Nuker(Offensivly):
Pure Int Spear
90 Fire
90 Light
90 Pach
30 Ice

Best Defensive Nuker:(I prefer)
Pure Int S/S
90 Light
90 Ice
90 Bich
30 Fire

Balanced Nuker: ( I prefer)
Pure Int S/S
90 Fire
90 Ice
90 Bich
30 Fire




I think you mean Heuksal. I don't want anybody going bow nuker thinking they'll be the hardest hitting int out there. :D


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 Post subject: Re: ULTIMATE INT BUILD QUESTION :)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:23 am 
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What kind of nuker will be that then?
90 light
90 cold
90 heuksal
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balanced? offensive? fail? :P

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 Post subject: Re: ULTIMATE INT BUILD QUESTION :)
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Floor wrote:
What kind of nuker will be that then?
90 light
90 cold
90 heuksal
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balanced? offensive? fail? :P



not sure what you mean by that. 90 light/cold/heuk is a pure or hyb int spear build and is a very strong build offensively. And if you think that it is fail, try fighting a good hyb int spear. trust me, they're pretty strong. just ask other people on the forum and i'm sure you'll find that the build, especially the hybrid version, has a pretty strong offensive reputation.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:54 pm 
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nohunta wrote:
All are based on pure int.

The Most Powerful Nuker(Offensivly):
Pure Int Spear
90 Fire
90 Light
90 Pach
30 Ice

Best Defensive Nuker:(I prefer)
Pure Int S/S
90 Light
90 Ice
90 Bich
30 Fire

Balanced Nuker: ( I prefer)
Pure Int S/S
90 Fire
90 Ice
90 Bich
30 Fire


I assume one of either isn't fire?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:51 pm 
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Rac00n wrote:
nohunta wrote:
All are based on pure int.

The Most Powerful Nuker(Offensivly):
Pure Int Spear
90 Fire
90 Light
90 Pach
30 Ice

Best Defensive Nuker:(I prefer)
Pure Int S/S
90 Light
90 Ice
90 Bich
30 Fire

Balanced Nuker: ( I prefer)
Pure Int S/S
90 Fire
90 Ice
90 Bich
30 Fire


I assume one of either isn't fire?



the 90 is light. or at least it should be. any nuker should have light as the primary force simply because the mag buff is vital to max damage for nukes. thats assuming you're making a nuker build.


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 Post subject: Re: ULTIMATE INT BUILD QUESTION :)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:33 pm 
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Thx the puma , but im going pure int . Sure pure int spear will survive cave's and stuff?

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hey floor... what about your pure str bower how is he doing?

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hehe... he's alright ;) Why suddenly so curious? :) You know me ingame or what? :D

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go with cold/fire/light 90 XD
Best balanced really.

You look at the higher caps and int won't benefit too much from bicheon (maybe against other pure int) but not that great.

and pach 90 only increases attack rating...
bows aren't that great with nukes, bows are best for pure str (or 70:70) b/c they get the most crits but as an int, crits are about the same as a regular hit.

with the build above, you should wield spear for first nuke, then switch to s/s (that's if you didn't kill the opponent already) to play the rest of the match for the block, added defense and blues.

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Floor wrote:
Thx the puma , but im going pure int . Sure pure int spear will survive cave's and stuff?


Well a Pure Int Spear (which is my build) does fine in PvE. Its harder to grind on mobs higher than your own level without good gears unless you don't mind dying. You can handle just about anything with ease, save giants or pt mobs your level or higher. Against those you just need to throw up snow shield and avoid getting mobbed by too many monsters and you'll do fine. Grind on greens for two reasons: 1. More drops and 2. You won't die as much. As for the cave, keep grinding on greens until you can kill nachals, then take a garm suit and grind on them. Its an amazing place for an int in garms. :D

PvP-wise you probably aren't the best build around and you'll die a lot but its fun knowing you can 1-2 hit anybody your own level and sometimes higher level. I am pvping fine against people my own lvl and i am on a 6 gap. being pure int spear just takes more skill. :wink: You have to know when to stun, KB, phantom, etc. If you want a char thats not as difficult to play, take the S/S. It will give you KD and Blocks to help your survivability in PvP. the spear pvp build is hybrid and you already said you wanted to go pure.

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go with cold/fire/light 90 XD
Best balanced really.

You look at the higher caps and int won't benefit too much from bicheon (maybe against other pure int) but not that great.

and pach 90 only increases attack rating...
bows aren't that great with nukes, bows are best for pure str (or 70:70) b/c they get the most crits but as an int, crits are about the same as a regular hit.

with the build above, you should wield spear for first nuke, then switch to s/s (that's if you didn't kill the opponent already) to play the rest of the match for the block, added defense and blues.



This is actually the build I am going to change to. At higher lvl caps, it does really well. Hits hard (esp with spear) and actually has decent survivability in PvP.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:07 am 
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officially Pure Int Spear nuker now ! :) Thanks to puma & others ^^
Tried it out. I died in pve when i had 3 pt mobs on me lol but i guess its normal.. But i owned general mobs in 1-2 hits :) . In PVP i sucked lol. Me and my friend lvl 40 had a break of plevel and pvp'd for fun. I got owned in few hits by a bow and dual axe raped me too. But when i got stun on them, i won. I've got a long way to go to master pure int spear 8)
Thanks everyone i hope ill love it lol

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Accidentally double posted. Delete please. :banghead:


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For griding, i find it more efficient to sit in a 4-man dist pt so you don't get the pt mobs. your kill rate should be high enough to more than make up for their absence (and there's always the occasional giant anyway). plus it will save you HP pots. For me i find the mob that i can kill in 1 nuke or nuke+shock. It makes grinding really fast and easy.

As for PvP, especially at low levels is really hard for us pure int spears. I used to win like 1 out of 7 pvp matches when i was low lvl. As you get higher level it gets a lot easier with the addition of KBs and Stuns. usually my PvP goes something like this

Open with fire nuke
soul spear soul
soul spear truth (if soul didn't stun)
if they get stunned by either of the two, i nuke again.
by this time they should be dead. :twisted: if not i GS for the KB
follow up with a phantom back and repeat the cycle.
if at any time your life becomes dangerously low do 1 of two things, GS or Phantom.


i pvp with large pots at 75% and i still manage to keep a 60-70% win record against others within 1-2 levels of myself (both above and below) :D . going off of that, i'm assuming that it will get higher once i close my 6 gap and start using xlarge pots



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:52 am 
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For griding, i find it more efficient to sit in a 4-man dist pt so you don't get the pt mobs. your kill rate should be high enough to more than make up for their absence (and there's always the occasional giant anyway). plus it will save you HP pots. For me i find the mob that i can kill in 1 nuke or nuke+shock. It makes grinding really fast and easy.

As for PvP, especially at low levels is really hard for us pure int spears. I used to win like 1 out of 7 pvp matches when i was low lvl. As you get higher level it gets a lot easier with the addition of KBs and Stuns. usually my PvP goes something like this

Open with fire nuke
soul spear soul
soul spear truth (if soul didn't stun)
if they get stunned by either of the two, i nuke again.
by this time they should be dead. :twisted: if not i GS for the KB
follow up with a phantom back and repeat the cycle.
if at any time your life becomes dangerously low do 1 of two things, GS or Phantom.


i pvp with large pots at 75% and i still manage to keep a 60-70% win record against others within 1-2 levels of myself (both above and below) :D . going off of that, i'm assuming that it will get higher once i close my 6 gap and start using xlarge pots



PS. Welcome to the club. 8)


true dat. i was owning other int spear nukers in CTF at lvl 30-33 (33 where i am now). i think it was b/c my superior sos prot gear and sos weapon and shield against (maybe) their armor (low low mag. def).

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nohunta wrote:
All are based on pure int.

The Most Powerful Nuker(Offensivly):
Pure Int Spear
90 Fire
90 Light
90 Huesk
30 Ice

Best Defensive Nuker:(I prefer)
Pure Int S/S
90 Light
90 Ice
90 Bich
30 Fire

Balanced Nuker: ( I prefer)
Pure Int S/S
90 Fire
90 Ice
90 Bich
30 Light



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Thanks for the tips ! ;) I'll go level myself up now.

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