...... 2hander are being overpowered. Dam

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

i do think 2h is overpowered... at lvl 30 with my bowman, i was fighting a guildie 2h/cleric, and he was 30 too. sprint assault ---> kd ---> double hitting skill = im dead -.-. i didnt even get to launh Berserker Arrow :banghead:

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that really makes me wanna change my build :cry:

. but who knows, maybe i might be able to beat a him later on ^^. or maybe he will just double crit me to death >.> like the op said :banghead:

AngloKnight · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1504 **Location:**

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

i do think 2h is overpowered... at lvl 30 with my bowman, i was fighting a guildie 2h/cleric, and he was 30 too. sprint assault ---> kd ---> double hitting skill = im dead -.-. i didnt even get to launh Berserker Arrow :banghead:

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that really makes me wanna change my build :cry:

. but who knows, maybe i might be able to beat a him later on ^^. or maybe he will just double crit me to death >.> like the op said :banghead:

Bowmen will be more annoying at higher lvls when they launch like 6 arrows that will knock you back... so the 2H won't have a chance to hit back... but once he gets to you, you're prolly dead

Astra · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 535 **Location:**

Sleep doesn't work but Wheel Bind (Panic) works pretty much.

mememe · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 29 **Location:** somewhere

they aint over powered, a 1h can beat them easily since they attack so slow if a 1h blocks one of their attacks they are screwed.

LockStar. · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 948 **Location:**

mememe wrote:

they aint over powered, a 1h can beat them easily since they attack so slow if a 1h blocks one of their attacks they are screwed.

Depends who is playing the 1 Hand. I can beat 1H/Warlocks with almost no trouble, after some 2-3 mins of fighting. I never lost to a 1H warrior so far.

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

Warrior/Clerics ARE overpowered, but they are not unbeatable if u are SKILLED.. problem is all people want to kill the warrior with retared 123123123 attacks.
so how do u do so?

1-rogue/cleric: the so very underused combo.. maybe because its hard to do and needs loads of practice
Xbow on-> Hurricane shot to KD-> Daggers on-> DD-> Mortal Wounds-> Prick and/or Butterfly blow (this can take down a warrior WITH iron skin on if prick crits and u get one or two crits on the mortals, already tested)
2-rogue/warlock: Stun-> panic -> DD -> mortal wounds (MW used 1st to get hopefully bleed) -> Prick -> Butterfly Blow (pills ruin ur day still

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3-Str Bow: Save ur KBs when the warrior starts casting the daredevil so u have anychance to survive.. dont just be a retard and keep spamming it. also try to interrupt the Bless while it is being casted, if the warrior is dumb enough to try bless without having u KDed first that is. downside: sprint assault can stun u, so u cant kb in time.. not so common though)
3-Glavier: same with ur KBs.. far harder though, but at least u can tank better.. i dont like glaviers anyway :roll:

4-Blader: blah blah blah with KD
5-wizard: not much of a 1v1 class.. u can still try bless+earth fence -> charged squall -> meteor (all with life turnover on).. and hope for the best
6-warlock/cleric: obviously stun-> panic -> offering (ello pills)

Pham · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 541 **Location:**

ok 2h warriors are really strong but they are not undefeatable, at 80 cap hellgirl on pacific was lvl 80 full farm with sun 8d 2h sword, she could kill many people but there were also some at her level that she couldnt kill, like pimpsmooth. So im guessing it will be the same at 90 cap or worst,cuz euro barely get any new skill if any in 90 cap

JoyFax · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 1095 **Location:** PORTUGAL

Actually a rogue xbow can kill him

He gets him by surprise with all that KD and KB and he also does some nice damage.

Wizards can 1hit him if he is with out the bless spells or skins.

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

Pham wrote:

ok 2h warriors are really strong but they are not undefeatable, at 80 cap hellgirl on pacific was lvl 80 full farm with sun 8d 2h sword, she could kill many people but there were also some at her level that she couldnt kill, like pimpsmooth. So im guessing it will be the same at 90 cap or worst,cuz euro barely get any new skill if any in 90 cap

At 90 cap is worse for you guys ... Our damage increased, your healing from pots stayed the same.

EvilOrder · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 147 **Location:**

MrFudge wrote:

K a R e E m wrote:

there's many things make u avoid that
-ironwall shield
-'BLOCK'
-KD
-KB
-warior attack veeeeeery slow and warior is the slowest without bard so u can own with ranged attacks
-... that's all i remember

-15 seconds is nothing, think about the warrior that has 45 seconds skins, 45 seconds bless, then 30 more seconds for that all over again. Epic defense and attack.

- blocking ratio on 2handers weapon, but yes thats the best defense :wink:

-weak, and u cant knock them down when they stun you or knock you back, they have more knock back skills (4 of them bash, daredevil, spring assualt, and double knockback from daredevil) and their sprint assault does both 40% stuna and over 60% kb. They also have knock down with turn rising.

- that just gives them time to repot, and the gap can be closed instantly with sprint assault which also probably gets you stunned or knocked back yourself.

- typhoon, and the skills are not slow. The common attack is slow, but the actual skills are pretty fast.

yes its overpowered. The only thing that has stopped them from dominating a server has been the lack of suns, but now that euro suns are dropping then its a broken game. The only build to stop them is a 90 ice snow shield s/s or 90 ice blader, and thats if you have complete critical parry and BR on your shield and spam knockdown so you dont recieve the daredevil crit. Then get 3 people on the warrior and interrupt all his skills and kill him lol. You can also run away when he does bless or skins, then come back when he has no defense, 2 nukes will kill him or if youre a spear user flame wave wide + ghost spear.

at the end 2h pwns

Amarisa · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4049 **Location:** Magic

no one even thinks of axes :o axes/cleric (with maddning and dd). im sure can easly kill a pure 2h/cleric cuz axes stun. when the 2h is stunned switch to 2h and dd lol then back to axes. thats what im doing now but i havent got maddning yet but i will soon!!

AngloKnight · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1504 **Location:**

2H sux vs some builds.. that's from my experience as being a former 2H and PVPing 2Handers... whenever they do their maddening you could easily stop it in no time.. knock back/knock down/stun/sleep/etc..

Blinxx · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 463 **Location:**

MrFudge wrote:

sleep doesnt work on holy spell.

let's add the fact that holy spell lvl 2 is already in ^^ lol....
annoying to warlocks I'd say ">>

Ice_Warrior · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 628 **Location:** UK

ppl base there facts on 1 on 1 -.-, group fighting warrior buffs will only last so long and attks slow and hard to run away from groups, gives them a big disadvantage. But still very strong.

LillDev!l · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2587 **Location:** OTL&OG

a warrior on troy hit a 58k crit on me while i had my shield on ^^
thats insane, never seen a wizzard or rogue hit that high on me.
he has a sun+7 though -.- farking sick.

warriors of my level are ok, just use knockback and phantom enough ^^

Ragnorak · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1147 **Location:**

LillDev!l wrote:

a warrior on troy hit a 58k crit on me while i had my shield on ^^
thats insane, never seen a wizzard or rogue hit that high on me.
he has a sun+7 though -.- farking sick.

warriors of my level are ok, just use knockback and phantom enough ^^

must be ilia

I was hit by 27x crit through snow shield once and a +5 protector set by a +5 2hand sword o.O. not even sun+7 2hand can crit that high on my snow.
the average dmg through snow was 5-7k, so crit like 5x the dmg.
fought him again and the crits were no where near past 15k.

warriors are not hard kill, shield switch ftw..

die more often to glaviers. in the end awesome gear is the diff b/w win/lost.

rune111 · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 67 **Location:**

So RedSea isnt the only server who is being assfucked by sun +7 2h eh?The sun owner is 90 FF and selling his char now.

Blinxx · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 463 **Location:**

Lady_Shadows wrote:

no one even thinks of axes :o axes/cleric (with maddning and dd). im sure can easly kill a pure 2h/cleric cuz axes stun. when the 2h is stunned switch to 2h and dd lol then back to axes. thats what im doing now but i havent got maddning yet but i will soon!!

depends if the warrior you fight have glory armor passive, then it might make a difference. It won't save him from the massive DD dmg, but it might save him from the axe. Who knows, good way though i'd say... huge dmg + quick damage of the axe might make it happen

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Ragnorak · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1147 **Location:**

Lady_Shadows wrote:

no one even thinks of axes :o axes/cleric (with maddning and dd). im sure can easly kill a pure 2h/cleric cuz axes stun. when the 2h is stunned switch to 2h and dd lol then back to axes. thats what im doing now but i havent got maddning yet but i will soon!!

several 2hands use axe to add bleed (I pill it off

)/stun (switch to shield before i get hit by the 2nd atk of maddening/dare devil)

I just love to shield switch to my 85+5 when warriors use maddening/dare devil

a lot less dmg. or even block.

John_Doe · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 2094 **Location:**

rogue/warlock just need stun to hit and being a 2hs/cleric no shield so 5 sec of rogue combos and prick ^^. But yes it depends on the person playing and gear.

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