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from what i know he is a wizz, and if foudre said he helped him i believe. it dosent mater if he is 2 lvls higher. he would have done a lot more dmg so killing faster. plus what hurts 2 help a fellow legit?

Dash, why did you steal Barotix's sig? No matter how annoying you are, you will never be Barotix. xD J/k. xDD

Seriously though, drop his sig you nub.

lmao, i love how blatant his theft is

zest is 50 something
foudrenub is 66 from SS

he means that he's 2 levels above the mob!

No, that just pisses people off. Meet Force with Force and you will get more Force. Especially when the nature of both parties is aggression. If you want to make a pker look bad, you play the victim card. Get people rallied up behind you, and those allies you lost, or were losing, will be back in your hands. Has Fly not been teaching you guys political tactics? Does his genius only know the battlefield? W/e, both sides are happy. Life goes on.

@Nightbloom, /yawns. I'm not blaming Avalon. If foudre feels the pk was justified, then I'm not going to go; "hey, that wasn't nice". As I said; it wasn't over being denied entrance into the party.

@Zero, the sig is our guild tag.

Well, when I was in Hurricane High Levels joined my sungs party and grinded with me and they were way higher than 2 levels. The exp loss would've been negated by the speed of foudre's killing.

@Zest, Your guild murders legits so don't play the bs; "you murder legits card" and DarkBandit is Legit so get off his bloody case.

Why would Fly need to teach any of us political tactics? He is like, 5 years older then most of us. You say to play the victim card, how do you see this as not playing the victim. As soon as this happened, Nightbloom came to his rescue, and pwnt him.


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@Barotix: Thats dumb to think that. 2 levels over the mobs won't give a great enough edge unless he had a sosun weapon that 1 shot killed them. The exp loss is great enough at that level that we rarely allow people that are within 5 lvls of the mobs into our parties, simply because it hurts more then it helps. 2 lvls higher is just way out of the question.

Age doesn't matter. If someone has more knowledge than you, they should be prepared to pass that knowledge on.

Lol, What NB played wasn't the victim card. That was more like "an eye for and eye." She tried to play the victim but that's kindf hard when your target is indifferent to the situation. In order to play the victim you need to be able to make the target look even worse than he/she actually is. If NB wants to make a big deal about Foudre pking, oh well, so sad. Idc, moving on:

Topic needs moar desu. MOAR!

I don't see the harm. If a friend's in need I will be there to help. You guys are so obsessed with your exp gain, its like people who go zerk when they lose even one minute of their ticket time. OH NOES! Less exp! I let Chinese into my parties until a European took their spot, I let Higher Levels into my party until someone of appropriate level needed the spot. Anyhoo, you're making me miss the lulz in the BHA/Avalon topic. Avalon always brings the lulz.

I R CONFUZZLED.

people on foudre's side keep saying that ZEST denied foudre because of an issue with Blade ... ummmmm, i don't see that anywhere in the screenies. anybody have proof of that?

and LadyGee, i have no idea why you would say that partying on mobs 11 lvls higher than you is counterproductive lol. that's THE MOST PRODUCTIVE lvl difference between you and a mob. just get a good party that knows what they're doing, and any deaths are easily offset by the massive amount of exp gained. everybody knows the optimum exp is on mobs 11 lvls higher.

and honestly, it wouldn't matter to me if the person trying to join was in my guild, 2 lvls higher than the mobs is counterproductive for the rest of the group. if you're a euro and you can solo mobs, you shouldn't be trying to party on them.

PK for party denial is dee-dee-dee. returning a PK for that may not exactly help the situation, but it sure as hell sends a message.

btw, where did this topic come from? i keep good tabs on this forum and it had two pages before i even knew it existed

It wasn't pk for party denial.

anyhoo, the "issue" is solved. Case Closed:

Foudre pked some guy, The guy's leader pked back. Weee, yeah. Maybe I'm being to indifferent. =/

Why would she need to play the victim card? ZEST was pked, thus he is the victim. Nightbloom came and showed him what would happen when he pked TE, especially an officer of TE. She obviously isn't the victim, and shouldn't play the victim.

Really, what happens when you pk TE? Oh yeah, the GM gets angry and pks back. OMG, ONOES, Big-Bad Avalon is going to pk me. W/e shall I do. Oh the horror, the horror. I am so terrified. Please, Avalon should take their pathetic attempts at Terrorism and use it against the bots, they're dumb enough to fall for it. Oh we better be careful, If we steal from Avalon kiddies we might be labeled bot supporters. OH NOES!

Nightbloom being the leader can play the victim card. Its like saying; New York was bombed, the President shouldn't have to play the victim card. New York should. Now if Zest was pked and he is the victim, he should man up and fight his own battles. Hiding behind his fearless leader, I loled. This whole situation brings me the morning lulz. So funnei.

i appologized i over reacted, but it seamed like a lame reason to deny and felt like he was simply denying me cause i'm Blade, i'm sceptic of any party now cause i dont' want people to get the wrong impression, but on the bright side i did get to kill some one. Although i am a litlte mad he failed to remember me, and no i'm not confusing him with some on else with a name like ZEST there is no one to confuse him with, i've seen parties of his asking for tanks for hours before and i stoped what i was doing to go help "allies" and got on donut to go to tank for him. You all know i've helped with tons of free plvls both unions and tons of free gear, but i receive nothing in kind, it makes me wonder i even try to be nice (its in my nature to be nice i can't help it) but i am wrathful, and honestly fly you never planed to give us any gold and i know it so stop threatening to not give us gold i dont' want to be handed gold for free, the only gold i'll accept will be a loan, but i don't need you for that

*high fives*

Sweet, now on to the next subject:
@NB/Fly: I hope you guys realize this wasn't a big deal.

From what I understand, ZEST didn't even know he had been murdered till Foudre ran off. He didn't have a chance to fight his own battle due to your guild leaders cowardice.

I am starting to see that your empathy only falls on those who are in your union/friends. It is sad that when you see something wrong, and it is done by a friend, you have nothing but admiration for what is done. You try to come off as a completely unbiased person, trying look like you see both sides equally. Well in the end, if someone were to pk someone in your union, I could bet money that you would do one of two things.

A.) Puss out and say "oh well... that sucks for you man... lets go on and do nothing about it."
B.) You'd go out and maybe kill the person. (It is unlikely, but maybe somewhere deep down you'd see that as a possibility.)

The only reason that you seem to see Foudre in the right in this situation is because he is your guild leader. You say that we blindly follow Fly, and that your way of "individual thinking" is better. That Avalon as a whole should wake up and see what we are is "wrong". Well bud, maybe you should open your eyes and realize that you yourself are under Foudre, and it seems that he can do no wrong by you.

Just my .02. Grow a backbone and stand up for something. Don't pull this shit of flip-flopping back and forth on issues. If you see something as wrong, then see it as wrong across the board, no matter who has done it.

nightbloom, Fly murdered me, go kick his ass

Anyway, read my post carefully; especially the first one.

"/sigh, oh well; shit happens."

When someone sighs it means???

Lawls, name calling? So uncalled for. You should probably mature up and learn to take some criticism. Standing for 1 very general thing that covers such a vast amount of topics isn't standing for anything. You flip-flop back and forth between what others say, and don't actually seem to have a real opinion of your own. Form one, and you can say you stand for something.

Don't insult my leaders, they have been here since day one as well, and have gone above and beyond the calling of any legit to keep this server clean, and the only thing anyone ever does is bitch about how bad a job they are doing. If they pulled out today, this server would turn to shit over night, and where would you Barotix? Can you even imagine what the server would be like without them? I honestly doubt it.

That's all I have to say on this topic. Foudre was wrong, ZEST was in the right. Nightbloom, being the passionate person she is, went out and got revenge for her XO.

I didn't insult your leaders, they do like picking fights with other legits. That isn't an insult; They are bored. That isn't an insult. They are near capped, that isn't an insult. They are attacking other Legits instead of botters. That isn't an insult. Maybe they're demoralized, no I doubt that. "Learn to take criticism" Dude you questioned my integrity and expect me to take it well? I'm a very, very, very proud person. I take criticism where criticism is warranted. Let us analyze my post:

Lets review my post, great soldier who lacks reading comprehension.



First one. In response to the thread and Fly's threats. When someone sighs, it usually has a connotation of shame, or disgust. I then follow up with; people move on (i.e.) Even though this wasn't the best move on Foudre's part, it isn't really something to dwell on for to long. After, I show my point of view, I start being indifferent. I thought the sigh would show where I stand. Cerus, didn't understand my post but had enough curtosy to double check: Naturally I know this is a question: Do I agree or disagree with Foudre's actions in this particular case? No, do I understand why he did it? Yes. Don't mistake understanding with acceptance. I respond to Cerus' question with: Yes, it does make him look bad but it isn't a big deal (i.e.) it isn't something to lose sleep over. It isn't something to dwell on and make a case over, it isn't some catastrophic event that can spell the end of the world. It was one isolated pking over something that was understandable yet pointless. I ended with, nothing gained; well, maybe a few lulz. Why? Who am I laughing at? Who would you laugh at? You see, all my post show who I'm siding with here, and it obviously isn't my guild. I understand why Foudre did what he did, that is when Battle Bard questioned the reasoning of Foudre's actions, I explained why it was done. No where in that post did I say Foudre was in the right. I don't even know how that can be inferred. . This quote is probably the quote that confused you and made you think I was going with Foudre. My other post were responding to Nightbloom overreacting in the post. If you notice, I'm not the only person that doesn't care. I'm also not the only who thinks this isn't a big deal. As a matter of fact, the victim doesn't care. Tells you something, doesn't it? Stop making a big deal out of a little issue. Its like the kid at the playground that cries after his friend's brother gets into a fight. I don't care about small little issues. Don't infer what isn't there.

After that last post, I started trolling to see how far I could take this.

I read all your posts. I honestly don't care about the pk issue at this point, it has been taken care of. My points in my posts (which you obviously lack the reading comprehension to read and answer with any kind of coherent response) is that you have no opinions of your own. You lack any kind of stance on any issue, with the obvious exception of "botting is bad, legit is good"; the rest just seems sort of gray. You then proceed to try and push the non-opinions on others as if to try and show that you have a complete idea from all sides, when clearly you do not.

Fly's threats in the beginning of the thread are valid. I don't see why you are all "/sigh" about. Foudre constantly talks about wanting legit vs legit, and then goes and attacks Fly's union. Why would anything but a retaliation be a better answer?


I haven't made a big deal out of this, Foudre did by starting the topic. With the exception of the few posts relating to the original topic, my posts were all directed at you.

/sigh was towards Foudre. Disgust towards foudre's actions and this pointless thread.



Why reply to something that is a blatant lie? I have clear defined opinions on all issues. FYI, you only posted that once. Well, twice if I include the above post. Re-read my post, you didn't understand it.

Ah, well I can't beat a mod with editing powers I guess. I forfeit this fight as I can see it is an unfair one. I hold to my opinion that you cannot form your own, and will continue to point it out as time passes by.

Barotix and his non-opinions.

Dude, I don't have control over this section. I can't edit a thing you say or type. When I'm in Venus don't look at me as a Mod, look at me as Barotix. Not Mod. I hate it when people use the Mod title against me; "oh well, you're mod, you win." Thats absolute bs and I won't have it.

How can I not form my own opinion? Did you not re-read my post? It clearly states what my three main post in this topic mean. Just because I treat each case differently doesn't mean I can't form my own opinions. I know what you're getting at too:

Pking someone for a dumb reason =/= pking several people for no reason at all.

Of course everyone knows this. Leveling at mobs 11 levels higher is productive for "you" but if you really want to analyze it, it's not productive for the high levels in the party. I was simply trying to make a point. People can argue that having someone 2 levels higher than the mob is counterproductive but I can also argue that having low level's in a party is counter productive for the higher levels because they can't kill fast enough Not that I will ever boot someone because they aren't high enough. I'm not selfish like that

Anyway this topic is getting a little out of hand. Lock please

will you avalon guys stop fighting with this wanna be guild? 2 and a half players is nothing to get butt hurt about.

I thought we had something.

I LOVED YOU!

can i murdur him LOL.....he gets me kicked from parties, denies me and tells everyone im a bot

i iwll pk him if he continues

Feel free to pk as you please and don't make a thread about it.

I'm also classified as a bot because i ressed a bot who was murdering him, Who doesn't want zest dead that's not in avalon/TE?