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 Post subject: wht build can kill rogues?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:30 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: wht build can kill rogues?
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Every build can, only you need to be the first who attacks ;)
Mostly when a roque attack first you will loose.

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To be honest Rogues suck, on Greece most people are using pk2 edits so rogues have no chance usless they are warlock.

Thats why i stopped using my lvl 80 rogue.


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 Post subject: Re: wht build can kill rogues?
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Wizards can 1 hit rogues if attacked first
Rouges can kill Rouges
1H with the help of skins, can kill Rouges(xbows, but hard to kill DD)
Warlocks can kill Rogues
Clerics can kill Rogues
Chinese STR builds (i dont know much about china builds, but i think full str glaiver/bow can kill rogues)

In PVP, everything comes down to the actions and reactions.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:46 am 
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To be honest Rogues suck, on Greece most people are using pk2 edits so rogues have no chance usless they are warlock.

Thats why i stopped using my lvl 80 rogue.


Rogues dont suck, the noobs using pk2 edit suck, thats the only way some people can kill a rogue because of their stupidity. The situation for a rogue in a fair pvp is very different, if the rogue deals the first hit, usually is the winner. If your server is full of assholes then its your problem.

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pure str wizard with life control on...

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u are vry clever

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for me any build can IF u know how to play with it
and BTW ROGUES are NOT superman so u cant kill it

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a full STR blader with full Sun set and BR 20+ and atlest 5 lvls higher
it might survive :D
I have an Rogue myself and i know how good :twisted: it is the only things that beat me are:
1.10 lvls higher ppl
2.block with shield
3.**** that pk2 edit 2 see stelth :D

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a full STR blader with full Sun set and BR 20+ and atlest 5 lvls higher
it might survive :D


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Actually, I never had many problems killing rogues with my KD nuker in armor (activating the shield buff at the right time helps too). Warlock subs were painful, but with special pills it was doable (yet expensive). I haven't 1vs1 pvped since 9D though, since I focus more on group wars these days.

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 Post subject: Re: wht build can kill rogues?
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NobleHunter wrote:
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To be honest Rogues suck, on Greece most people are using pk2 edits so rogues have no chance usless they are warlock.

Thats why i stopped using my lvl 80 rogue.


Rogues dont suck, the noobs using pk2 edit suck, thats the only way some people can kill a rogue because of their stupidity. The situation for a rogue in a fair pvp is very different, if the rogue deals the first hit, usually is the winner. If your server is full of assholes then its your problem.


Stealth is not a must-have to be good with a rogue, its good for some things, but its less satisfying when you kill someone out of stealth....

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>.< wrote:
To be honest Rogues suck, on Greece most people are using pk2 edits so rogues have no chance usless they are warlock.

Thats why i stopped using my lvl 80 rogue.


No chance huh, you obviously didn't know how to play your character then lol.
All you would have to do is use xbow until KD, switch to daggers and they're finished.
Although stealth is useful.. it isn't a good thing to become dependent on it.


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I quit playing my rogue. I'm going to play a warrior. You will not get accepted into parties unless you have a Bard subclass or Cleric subclass. Though, you character will be terrible because your pure STR. In the end, bard and cleric is useless.

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NobleHunter wrote:
>.< wrote:
To be honest Rogues suck, on Greece most people are using pk2 edits so rogues have no chance usless they are warlock.

Thats why i stopped using my lvl 80 rogue.


Rogues dont suck, the noobs using pk2 edit suck, thats the only way some people can kill a rogue because of their stupidity. The situation for a rogue in a fair pvp is very different, if the rogue deals the first hit, usually is the winner. If your server is full of assholes then its your problem.


Stealth is not a must-have to be good with a rogue, its good for some things, but its less satisfying when you kill someone out of stealth....


+1

And rogues can fight face to face too specially if you have cleric sub. Or use hp grains in pvp. Same goes for wizards. Imo noobish is that people uses stealth/invisible in cape pvp, obviously without asking target for a fight. Unfortunately thats what most people do, guess thats the way.. :-P

Too many pissheads in Poseidon has made highlvl wizards or rogue just for noobish way to kill. Also ive noticed they very often attacks when other people having 1vs1. And this "1hit" thing is seen in many grantnames.. :D Its that cool to 1hit!1 other players and go to safezone pick up next victim. Pathetic and very funny ;d.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:26 am 
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And rogues can fight face to face too specially if you have cleric sub. Or use hp grains in pvp. Same goes for wizards. Imo noobish is that people uses stealth/invisible in cape pvp, obviously without asking target for a fight. Unfortunately thats what most people do, guess thats the way.. :-P

Too many pissheads in Poseidon has made highlvl wizards or rogue just for noobish way to kill. Also ive noticed they very often attacks when other people having 1vs1. And this "1hit" thing is seen in many grantnames.. :D Its that cool to 1hit!1 other players and go to safezone pick up next victim. Pathetic and very funny ;d.


I know what you mean, and its the same for chinese chars, specially ints/hybrids, all they do is wait for snowshield at safe zone.

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a warlock can beat a rogue easy if the rogue dont have sub cleric

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Usually a physical character, Bladers / Glaivers / Archers etc, as rogues sacrifice physical defense in order to increase physical attack.

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1H/2H warrior with HA and Vital Increase on. Wont die in one shot, then you use shield crush + switch to cleric, heal up to 100%, switch back to 1H use iron skin + shield crush and cunning stab. Dead rogue.

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 Post subject: Re: wht build can kill rogues?
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well guys all knows that
when some1 post a thing that says that a class thats powerfull
all says its CONS
so let me tell u that
all classes have pros and cons
and to kill u have to get better gear and BRAIN
thats all so stop making topics like this

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NobleHunter wrote:
>.< wrote:
To be honest Rogues suck, on Greece most people are using pk2 edits so rogues have no chance usless they are warlock.

Thats why i stopped using my lvl 80 rogue.


Rogues dont suck, the noobs using pk2 edit suck, thats the only way some people can kill a rogue because of their stupidity. The situation for a rogue in a fair pvp is very different, if the rogue deals the first hit, usually is the winner. If your server is full of assholes then its your problem.

And you don't really need the invisibility, when I see a trader far away, I just get my daggers out, and when he notices me I use scud, that way he doesnt have the time to put on all his buffs, and I get the kill quicker. =)

To get away with the goods, thats a whole different story, then you'll need stealth xD

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Rogue doesn't really kill me unless it crits. couple of times

Pure str. Glavie lvl.90+Premium+,3 Honor buff,+Item mall defense scrolls+ prot set+vigor grains+snow shield

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Rogue doesn't really kill me unless it crits. couple of times

Pure str. Glavie lvl.90+Premium+,3 Honor buff,+Item mall defense scrolls+ prot set+vigor grains+snow shield

and plz no "OMG lvl.90 BOT"


Lets see, daggers max crit is 26(100%), its so freaking easy to get a few crits.

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How about pure int rogue with Xbow Extreme? :D

Rogue takes out nukers like no tomorrow. Killing tanks like blader and warrior with iron skin is tougher. To kill those the rogue need to use both xbow and dagger attacks. Use the fast recharge xbow skills to fill in the time gap when the high damage dagger skills are recharging.

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I never had problems killing rogues with my character :? when I'm in snow they don't 1 hit me and I still kill them in a few hits

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How about pure int rogue with Xbow Extreme? :D

Rogue takes out nukers like no tomorrow. Killing tanks like blader and warrior with iron skin is tougher. To kill those the rogue need to use both xbow and dagger attacks. Use the fast recharge xbow skills to fill in the time gap when the high damage dagger skills are recharging.


Sounds awesome, but like you are alive that long lols.

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lol any build can kill each other it all depneds on who has better gear and how you react to a sort of attack
for example if a 1h is fighitng a rouge and xbow gets first hit the only chance the 1h has is to KD or KB to stop the xbows 2nd and final attack
so after doing a KD or KB you go in with a shield crush to dull him then finish him off with the bersekerer skill or some cool combo and thats how you defeat a rouge with 1h
thats just a example though with 1h

that is if a xbow is using that xbow xtreme if his not thennn wellllll just tank him he will die


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